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"What goes around usually gets dizzy and falls over."

"I did not invent Irish Dancing."

Hayley actually sounds a lot like Becky Taylor, but her album contains non-showtunes, like two "Ave Marias" (Bach-Guonoud and Schubert) and "Pie Jesu." Converted to US dollars, the CD is around $12.98, with probably massive overseas shipping costs on top of that.

Thanks, Laurie!

"Walking in the Air" is exactly the song I was hoping it might be based on the album title -- it's the song that anchored the animated video "The Snowman." Isn't it haunting??

I really like the other mix of songs as well! Between these singers, Charlotte, Becky, Hayley and hopefully others, it's starting to feel like we've got a nice celebration of beautiful songs ahead of us. My order is IN!

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Laurie, you're amazing!

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Thanks and very nice! If I had to choose I would buy this CD over Becky's - based on the files we've been given ...

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To be fair to Becky, we've only heard one song, whereas with Hayley we've heard three very different pieces. I think they both have lovely voices, and I'd definitely like to hear more from Becky and Hayley.

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"What goes around usually gets dizzy and falls over."

"I did not invent Irish Dancing."

Saturday 26 May: 7.30pm
Adults $25.00, Senior $22.50, Children $15.00 - Tickets available from the BMC Box Office

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If anyone is in the mood for a road trip (unless of course you are fortunate enough to live in New Zealand) you can catch Haley at the Bruce Mason Centre in Auckland...

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"What goes around usually gets dizzy and falls over."

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Originally posted by 1Salto:
I don't know about her being competition for Charlotte, but Sarah Brightman look out! (Sounds like Hayley has a great voice for for 'big finish' show-stoppers!)

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Have liserned to her cd three times now and her voice is great but the cd production is poor.Pie jesu is an interesting comparison to Charlottes voice , cant say i like one better than the other,Memory and Amazing Grace show Hayles effortless style and range

Is the world big enuf for both of them

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Originally posted by SAM:
Surely you jest. The sound quality is excellent!

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My first impression of her cd was a budget production spoiling a great voice but now that I have the opportunity to fiddle with a few knobs and switches it is sounding a lot better, but still think the live tv broad cast of her singing Pie Jesu and Amazing Grace to 200,000 people at 'Opera in the Park' in Auckland at Xmas was something special...
Lindsay

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That seems like terrific NZ exposure. I wonder if Hayley's been approached by any of the major recording companies? Anything on that in the NZ press so far?

Clearly this entry CD was intended to secure a local audience, and we can understand a budget production. Having "God Defend New Zealand" on the album feels much like the local Welsh tunes selected for VoA when Sony likely felt that most buyers would be out of local pride. Most of you won't recall the earliest Sony web site for Charlotte, where the opening video scene was of the Welsh flag waving in the breeze as those breath-taking initial notes of Pie Jesu hit you. They weren't expecting that we'd be surfing in from around the world.

http://www.charlottechurchfans.com/hayley/

So true , and now that I have been able to lisern to the cd again with a 1/2 decent system my original assesment may have been a little harsh but still not up 'CC' production but that takes nothing away from Hayleys exceptional voice.Lets face it Charlotte is a hard act to follow and it is very early days yet.I dont want to go and post the whole cd on the site but .....any requests ????

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Originally posted by SAM:
[B]That godawful bagpipe in Amazing Grace -- what were they thinking ??

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And what is wrong with bagpipes? There is something in the Celtic soul that is stirred by bagpipes. We hear the pipes swirling and we just want to march off and fight someone, English, French, German, it doesn't matter.

Is it possible there's something in the tune itself that draws from that collective heritage? I sense a latent harmony between the united, upturned voices of a rural congregation and the drone and whirl of the pipes.

Back in the mid-'60s, there was a strangely popular album that featured an Irish military pipe and drum band playing "Amazing Grace" and other traditional songs while they marched about with the ceremony unique to that genre.

The band went on tour in the US and was a sensation. "Amazing Grace Notes" read the headline in Time magazine about the band's success and reception.

My father, an Irish immigrant, went to their concert when they visited Columbus, Ohio and listened through tears. He spoke of that concert many times. Of course, he bought the album whose sounds were woven into the tapestry of my childhood -- a tapestry that remains closely furled.

The fascination is that in some unplanned way, a cycle of musical migration had completed a turn and a half across the Atlantic, whirling like the echos of the pipes themselves in some distant glen.

I'm recalling that Judy Collins recorded her own version of "Amazing Grace" with bagpipes in the early '70s in her "Whales and Nightingales" album, showing that pipes and a remarkable voice can be fairly joined.

And now, from another even more distant immigrant shore, where Scotch/Irish footprints left their mark, we hear "Amazing Grace" again -- the pipes now fairly joined with another remarkable, more youthful voice.

"What were they thinking?" Realistically, I suppose they were thinking only of creating good music. But, unknowingly they were completing one more cycle of musical migration, now across the Pacific.

My ears tell me they succeeded nicely in both their conscious and unconscious roles. My watering eyes tell me something of what so moved my father, and look inward as the tapestry unfurls just a bit.

Both Charlotte and Sarah Brightman's versions of "Pie Jesu" are done in a stately tempo - as befits a song from a "Requiem". The tempo on Haley's rendition seems to suddenly speed up at times - sometimes in the middle of phrases - and then slow down again. It may be just me, but this gives the song a "rushed through" effect which I found distracting.

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Originally posted by Dan:

"What were they thinking?" Realistically, I suppose they were thinking only of creating good music. But, unknowingly they were completing one more cycle of musical migration, now across the Pacific.

My ears tell me they succeeded nicely in both their conscious and unconscious roles. My watering eyes tell me something of what so moved my father, and look inward as the tapestry unfurls just a bit.

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Wow, great post, Dan! Sam, I guess this sorta' wraps up the question about what were they thinking, nicht wahr?

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Originally posted by Ann:
Once again no one from America!!! I should really take vocal lessons, I mean who cares that I got banned from the school choir 3 years ago!!

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So it is that I am not the only person to have been banned from a choir. I don't recall if my voice was anything to be proud of, but I really WAS a terrible brat at the time, so no wonder I was kicked out of the choir. Oh well. I prefer to dance anyway. :P

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Originally posted by SAM:
Miss my point some more.

Hayley was singing beautifully until the bagpipe came in. Then it sounded like a distraction and it seemed to affect her concentration, like she couldn't remember the words very easily.

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Hmmmm,perhaps if you had made this point in the first place!?! So, when you said the 'godawful bagpipes', that was 'code' for the above remark? It wasn't bagpipes, generally, but rather bagpipes as used in this song? Now I see, now it makes sense,now it's not just a gratuitous attack on the bagpipes-sorry for the misunderstanding, thanks for restating it in a way even I could understand.

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The tempo on Haley's rendition seems to suddenly speed up at times - sometimes in the middle of phrases - and then slow down again. It may be just me, but this gives the song a "rushed through" effect which I found distracting.Jon

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Yeah I noticed that too. In fact it was the first thing I noticed.

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Orginally posted by Mark: Amazing Grace is well worth the download in my opinion.

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Total agreement on that, especially live. The bagpipes are fine - nice touch I think.

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There's a fascinating story waiting to be told of how bagpipes came to be associated with "Amazing Grace," that simple American religious tune whose origins I believe are in Appalachia where Scotch and Irish immigrants settled.
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hi dan if me memeory is working right..

"Amazing Grace" was written by a slave master, to describe he's conversion to Christianity

he sailed the golden triangle ... from Bristol [England] with a cargo of metal goods to West Africa to sale the goods and buy slaves. Then from West Africa with a cargo of slaves to the Americas where they would sale the slaves and buy goods like cotton. From the Americas back to England
[ Bristol ]... the effect of carrying slaves brought about the conversion..

i do hope who ever is behind hayley doesn't try to make her go down the same road as Charlotte.. her voice is too good to be lost as a want to be..

i see her more on stage singing in shows [musicals] then in concert..

I wish her the greatest luck.. the south has great voices but sadly no Charlotte

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Anyone here remember Eric Burdon's "Sky Pilot?"

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Of course!!!

Check it out, if you've missed it at:
http://www.charlottechurchfans.com/hayley/

But, please treat this as an "appetizer" and buy Hayley's CD. You know how to do it -- mine shipped yesterday. Hayley's just starting her career and every sale does matter.

Thanks, Lindsay!

Thanks, Lindsay!

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no problem , and here is how

http://www.downtown.co.nz/netCD/Recordings/61781.shtml

I'll be speeking with Hayley tomorrow and will let you all Know about that and if you can tune into TVNZ2 Hayley will be singing live at the Lotto draw at 8pm Saturday 12-5 01

and ya just gotta get this CD, it realy grows on you !!!!!

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Personally, I like to give them more time before you or I decide..but granted, that Becky and Haley is nowhere near as good as Charlotte, But I would buy Haley's cds for sure...Way to go, Becky and Haley..May God watch over you all...Keep on singing because you love it, not for the money.. but for the music itself... I'll be watching for you two... but ..but.. umm, you all know where my loyalty stands!!

Personally, I like to give them more time before you or I decide...

Way to go, Becky and Haley..May God watch over you all...Keep on singing because you love it

Steve, thanks for understanding, but ummm, I did mention in my own words that "personally I would give them more time before you or I decide" I did not put Becky or Haley down at all.. I even said, I will buy Haley's cds and am waiting to hear more about Becky... What I meant in loyalty means, she opened my world.. but I can spread my likes in other musics with other Artists as well...I may just like/love Charlotte Church alot more than others, but I also like, Andera Bocelli, Billy Gillman, Julie Andrews. I have not yet heard Sarah Brightman yet, I plan to... alot of people spoke highly of her...I follow what people are saying about the singers, becasue I have no choice..as you already know I cannot hear.. so I rely on people in this site.. that is how I find out from others...I sample (hear)singers from these wonderful people in this site... I have learned alot...I love Celine Dion.. wow..I love her song, "My heart will go on" wow...love it.. what I am trying to say is that I learn from people like you...if it wasn't for this people from this site being so helpful to me with my limited hearing, I'll be listening to the wrong singers... I thank alot to MJ and some others who helped me get the lyrics, word for words so I can train my hearing to what Charlotte is singing...I really totally APPRECIATE these people, along with you, Steve, Mark(Admin), VAfan, Baby Dragon, Tony S, Chandler, Clarissa and many more, I apologize if I can't remember anyone else, but you are in my heart anyways... for helping me by keeping up with Charlotte Church with my very limited hearing...I am on the same level with you all because you allow me to be treated as equal. There is nothing I ever can say but all I know how to say, "THANKS A MILLION TIMES OVER!!!" Thanks so ever much for making me a real part of this family!!! This site ROCKS!!!

i have played the samples a number of times and have come round to the understanding Hayley has a great voice and will in her own right be very famous. i even ordered the CD.

If you remember he's the one who brought us "bond" - in fact the first URL to them on these boards is actually on the Mike Batt site.

He also worked on Vanessa Mae's first CD - apparently quite a bit. To my knowledge Vanessa has only said that they had differences in opinion of which way her career should go. Mel Bush - who worked with Batt - wanted her to join an all girl quartet - see above.

It's good to read about another nice young lady who seems to have it together. I wish Hayley all the best.

""We thought it would give the CD a Kiwi flavour," she said." - Good. That plastic/foil taste combo was getting old.

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Salto, I said "bagpipe," not "bagpipes." It sounded like just one and it was godawful in accompaniment to Haley's voice. Sorry to confuse you.

Bagpipes (plural) can be ethereal to listen to when done right. Anyone here remember Eric Burdon's "Sky Pilot?"

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