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The Truth About Gay Asian Men
Posted by Andrew on Wednesday, October 09 @ 22:46:16 EDT
Dating and Sexuality

By Jason Chang
aMagazine
February/March 2001

"Are you sticky?"

It was a hot summer evening in Boston almost a decade ago, and I was one of only two Asian men in a crowded, predominantly white gay club.  The other guy in the room had been smiling at me all evening and finally came up to make small talk.  I was trying to politely convey my lack of interest in him when he asked that strange question.

"Well, yeah," I replied.  "It's very hot in here."  He laughed and said he wasn't asking about my skin but whether I was attracted to other Asian men -- "Sticky, like sticky rice" he clarified, "rice that clings together."  There's "sticky rice," he said, and there are "potato queens" -- Asians who only date white men.

Throughout the age of mass media, mainstream American culture has consistently stereotyped straight Asian American men as asexual and subordinate, thereby denying them their full measure of humanity and masculinity.

What's worse, this stereotyping has not been the product not of a media conspiracy but of the free market in action.  Movie studios and TV networks are simply maximizing their profits in response to the overwhelming demand from mass audiences, predominantly white Americans, for content that affirms the sense of entitlement and centrality of white male protagonists at the expense of all others.  The racist perception that Asian men are less than "real men" pervades mainstream American culture, and profoundly impacts the life chances and self-image of all Asian American men.

For Asian American activists who join with most progressives in viewing white gay rights advocates as comrades in arms, the accompanying article may come as disappointing news.  As Jason Chang has found, the racist subordination of Asian American men -- often internalized as self-hatred -- is endemic not only in mainstream America, but in the counterculture of gay America.  Chang has identified an injustice that straight and gay Asian American brothers should challenge together.

-- Andrew Chin

"Oh, I am definitely a potato queen," I replied hastily to dispel any hopes he might have.  While keenly aware that he was strikingly good-looking, there was no way I would be interested in him; back then, I wanted a Caucasian boyfriend, preferably one who looked like the male models in GQ.  He sighed, "I'm not surprised.  So many Asians only want a white boyfriend.  I don't know why."  He gave me a wan smile and took his leave.

It's been eight years since, but I've never forgotten that conversation because it started me on the road to questioning my racial preferences.  They had always been a reflex, not anything I had really thought about until that evening.  Why was I attracted only to white men, I asked myself.  Why wouldn't I even consider another Asian guy as a potential partner?  I'd been attracted to white men since my earliest memory.  From my preadolescent crushes to my teen idols, my white knight had always been, well, white.  The only Asians I saw on TV or in the movies were houseboys or nerds, and there were certainly no Asian male models in the pages of the fashion magazines my friends and I so fervently perused.

I realized I was not alone in this.  Most of the gay Asians I knew would only date white guys, and most of us just accepted this as the norm.  But as I looked more deeply into the phenomenon, I was astonished by how widespread it was, at just how huge a percentage of gay Asian men were attracted only to white men.

I thought of how my gay Asian friends and I accepted dates from Caucasian men we weren't even attracted to, just so we could have a white partner.  And most of the gay white men we met were not interested in dating Asians.  As in heterosexual society, Asian men were considered to be at the absolute bottom in the hierarchy of desirability.  It seemed that the only white men who were interested in dating Asians were "rice queens" -- a non-Asian man, usually much older, who dates Asian men exclusively, with a single-minded passion bordering on fetishism and with attendant expectations of how Asians should behave.  The white men who could see us as individuals and not stereotypes were few and far between, so we potato queens just took whichever potatoes came our way.

After that night in Boston, though, I became determined to examine my own prejudices against dating Asian men and to fight the lifelong conditioning that had taught me to think of myself and other Asian men as inferior to white men.  As my own ethnic self-esteem grew, I found myself becoming more and more attracted to other Asian men.  I began looking to meet and chat with other "sticky" Asian men.  But they weren't easy to find.

I started noticing that in gay magazines and newsweeklies, almost every personals ad placed by a "GAM" (gay Asian male) was for a "GWM" (gay white male).  I observed that while America Online would always have three or more member-created "GAM4GWM" (gay Asian men for gay white men) chat rooms at any time of the day or night, all filled to capacity, there would only be one "GAM4GAM" room that usually only had a handful of participants.  It wasn't just that gay Asian men were mainly looking for Caucasian partners, it was also that many were strongly, viscerally opposed to ever dating another Asian.

On AOL, I sent instant messages to literally hundreds of other gay Asians, searched member profiles through the member directory and perused hundreds of personals ads.  Most of my IMs to other Asians on AOL were met with stony cybersilence or a one-line "Sorry, not into other Asians" reply.  The sad thing was that I wasn't even looking for those who only dated other Asians, just those who would even consider an Asian for a partner.  Of 110 personals ads placed by gay Asian men in AOL's Photo Personals section, for example, I counted 54 that had marked "white" or "Latino" in the racial preferences boxes, but excluded "Asian."

In the afterword of the book version of his Tony Award-winning play, M. Butterfly, playwright David Henry Hwang wrote, "In these relationships, the Asian virtually always plays the role of the 'woman'; the Rice Queen, culturally and sexually, is the 'man.'  This pattern of relationships has become so codified that, until recently, it was considered unnatural for gay Asians to date one another.  Such men would be taunted with a phrase which implied they were lesbians."

The use of the term "lesbian" to identify gay Asian men who are attracted to each other is a stunning indication of how many gay Asian men perceive that only white men are "real" men and that Asian men who date each other are therefore "lesbians" -- two "women" together.  Mainstream society's stereotyping of Asian men as feminine is raised to a grotesque level in the gay community.

The pursuit of a white boyfriend is so intense that many gay Asian men would sooner date a much older white male partner than another Asian.  Asian and Friends and the Long Yang Club are both social organizations with numerous chapters around the world that are designed for Asian men to meet Caucasian partners.  I had attended some of their events in cities from Sydney to New York, and all I saw were 50-something white guys with their 20-something Asian boyfriends.

"I used to wonder what the deal was with these young Asian guy/older white guy couples that I saw all the time," says Patrick, a Caucasian gay male in his 30s who lives in New York and has dated Asians.  "When I started getting to know some of them, I found that often the Asian guys were just settling for whatever white guy would have them, and there was usually this economic inequality.  Even if the Asian guy was making decent money, there was this inequality in power and status."

This inequality in status between Asians and Caucasians can be seen even in places that cater to gay Asians:  The Web, an Asian-owned nightclub in Manhattan, used to allow Caucasian patrons in for free while charging Asians -- the idea being that Caucasian men were more important and desirable, since Asians were going to the club to meet Caucasian partners.  The concept is similar to "ladies night" at heterosexual nightspots; women are at a premium, so they get in for free.

At Long Yang Club and Asians and Friends meetings, I chatted with other Asian men and asked them how they think they came to prefer white partners so exclusively.  Bert, a 34-year-old Filipino from Boston said, "I just never thought Asian men were beautiful.  My God, I certainly never thought of myself as beautiful.  I want an all-American boyfriend."

"To be honest, I see other Asian guys as competition," said Paul, a 28-year-old Filipino American.  "I can be friends with other Asian guys, but I'll never date them."  Chris, a 26-year-old Chinese American living in Philadelphia has also experienced the cold shoulder from other gay Asians.  "Many of the Asian guys here don't acknowledge my existence in the bars; they see me as competition for the few white men that are attracted to Asians."

Some potato-only Asians became highly defensive when asked about their exclusive preference for white men.  Most said they saw nothing wrong with being attracted only to white men, that it had nothing to do with self-hatred or media conditioning.  "And even if I've been conditioned by the media, so what?" asked Matt, a 24-year-old Chinese American New Yorker whose last partner was a 46-year-old Caucasian.  "We're all conditioned by the media.  I like white men, period."

Interestingly, my chats with Asians around the country and online showed a fairly clear geographic division:  gay Asian men in California were significantly more open to dating Asians than gay Asians on the East Coast.  Perhaps California's longer history and larger Asian American population have simply provided gay Asians with more Asian men to serve as positive role models and teenage crushes.

We often criticize the mainstream media for turning Asian men into desexualized caricatures, but the situation is much worse in gay culture.  "There's already so much emphasis on physical beauty within gay male culture," says Ian, a 36-year-old Asian New Yorker who has had long-term relationships with both whites and Asians.  "It's even harder for gay Asian men who do not fit the very narrow standard of what is considered desirable -- the muscle-bound, hyper-masculine look."  Ian now describes himself as "very sticky," but he'd count himself in the minority.  "The fact is most white men are not attracted to Asian men, and worse, Asian men are not attracted to each other."

As a reformed potato queen myself, one for whom race is now the least important factor in whom I date and love, I am optimistic that there's hope for us all.  As Asian Americans assert themselves more in the media and as the number of real-life role models increase, I believe that more gay Asian men will be able to realize that they can be as beautiful, sexy, attractive and desirable as any blond-haired, blue-eyed hunk.

 
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Gay Asian Men Separated By The Gay Society (Score: 0)
by Anonymous on Wednesday, October 23 @ 01:17:18 EDT
Jason Chang was quite clear on his depiction of Asian men for the reasons why
white men are only attracted to Asians, if they are older than what other
white men prefer. Also Asian men are attracted to what ever white man they
can find that would be attracted to them, regardless of age, social status,
and or physical attributes. I find in my years of going to social events and
the gay club scene that Asian men are attracted to white men for many reasons,
not only are they because Asian men are conditioned in such a way only to be
attracted to white men. Many of the social conditioning involves physical
attributes as well as psychological makeup of each Asian men. As physical
attributes goes, Asian men are attracted to muscular straight acting and or
broad shouldered white guy. Most of us Asians have learned that since most of
us cannot attain some of those physical and sexual attractiveness we therefore
are drawn to white men. In Asian culture I believe that Asians have been
exposed to many of the western cultures lifestyles and social interactions.
Since the media plays a big role in this stereotypical depiction of gay Asian
men, we are left with a society that is steered towards beauty and sexual
prowess only found in Caucasian men.

In many of today's society race has been separated by not only physical,
psychological & social status, but of sexual attributes as well. The club
scene and in many social gatherings Asian men has been seen as being small
effeminate types that are only attractive to those seeking such and are so
call rice queens. That being said most of this leads to the sexual
attraction, and the false perception that all Asian men are small musculature
and have small penises. With this thought we are given the sense of that we
have so many stereotypes facing us that many white guys are not attracted to
us as well as Asian men. I'm not saying here that most Asian men are size
queens, but lets face it, how many Asian or white men have we come across and
said size is not an issue here. Just look at the sex personals etc., all the
advertisement we see are in regards to their size and physical sexual
attributes. Frankly the media again plays a role not only in separating the
races but also giving many the false sense of sexual attributes that most
ethnic backgrounds have. The other day I was browsing through the internet,
and stumbled, well popped up on screen "how to enlarge your penis" web page.
With some curiosity I entered and looked around, I came across a size chart or
say a survey of penis size. Lets not think I'm emphasizing this sexual
content but, in all honesty isn't that basically one of the stereotypes. The
survey gave the sizes of men around the world, Asian men being at the bottom
of the list. Not only did this survey reinforce some misunderstood facts
about Asians but also the condom manufacturers states this as a fact. Again
this set fire to my thoughts, how can such a survey take place with many of
the white or non Asian culture taking most of the credit of being the largest.
This is truly not an accurate survey since we know that many people do
exaggerate their size, that found a new survey did come up and has been stated
as the truth, around the world. So for you size queens out there, no one
culture is larger than the other, so if your average (5.5 - 5.75) be happy.

By personal experience through the years, I've come across so many stereotypes
finding why Asians to some eyes are undesirable and why Asian men are
attracted to white guys, disgust me. For the small percentage of us being
gay, why can't we still figure out a way to erase all the stereotype and be
attracted to a race not because of stereotypical reaso

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Re: The Truth About Gay Asian Men (Score: 0)
by Anonymous on Saturday, November 30 @ 00:07:11 EST
Dear Mr. Chang,

I found your article interesting if not somewhat demeaning to that class of people such as myself who are Irish/Americans. It is neat to try to fit the gay experience into a small cubby hole of typing races. Many people are attracted to different kinds of people in terms of their looks and backgrounds. My tradition has never found any race particularly superior to another. All of my Asian friends are people of high education and many accomplishments. I prefer Asian men because of my many positive experiences with them. I also find Asian men to be the most handsome in my limited experience. There is no real "truth"; some persons prefer their own, others venture out. My greatest desire would be to find an Asian man for a lasting relationship. It has not happened but I have not given up. I am an older man, so I guess you would classify me as one of the less wanted kind. In any case, I wish you the very best. Joe McCarthy, Hollywood, California


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Re: The Truth About Gay Asian Men (Score: 1)
by Ian on Monday, December 02 @ 01:23:05 EST
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It's Sunday and Thanksgiving dinner ended a few days ago. Now, I have a paper due this Friday. It's about interracial dating among Caucasian and Asian gay men. After searching online for a few minutes, I came across this article. I find this article very informative. I believe that Mr. Chan tried his best to write this article to the best of his ability.
Since my "serious relationships" were with only Caucasian men in the past 4 years (I'm 20 years old as of Nov 2002), I want to figure out for myself the reasons behind it. Writing a paper about it for my Asian American Studies class should help me identify those reasons.
Well, if Mr. Chan is reading this (or anyone who would like to share their opinion about this matter) by December 5, 2002, please send me an email at chris_qwert@yahoo.com Thanks!


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