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| lulusmom | | One "Appealing" Pea | | PeaNut 1803 - 11/9/1999 | | Posts: 6469 Layouts: 18 | | Loc: The best place on earth...the good 'ol USA |
|  Posted: 6/19/2004 1:05:00 AM
Things seem to be spinning out of control on this board in the last week or so with the result that a lot of people are angry or hurt or upset over a lot of different threads.
Without asking anyone to get into any explanations, justifications, or further tirades, (and even if you disagree about things spinning out of control) I'd like to suggest that to make everyone's mb experience a bit more pleasant this weekend (and hopefully beyond) that we all agree to some basic courtesies towards one another....
These are the ones that I think will help and to which I pledge:
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1. I will try to post my opinion in a courteous manner. I will also be tolerant of the fact that not everyone expresses themselves in the same way (some people are very direct and others are less so). I will not attribute ill motive to a poster just because I do not like their manner of speech.
2. If I disagree with a person, I will express my disagreement without saying anything personal about the person who posted the statement I disagree with (even if I strongly disagree or if the opinion strongly goes against my beliefs)
3. I understand that keeping number 2 means addressing the issue and refraining from calling names, or making comments like "of course you would say that", or "how could anyone think that" or " ____________, you're always so _______________________" (ie, comments that are bound to result in in hurt feelings and the thread deteriorating into an argument between people, rather than ideas).
4. I will let the past be the past and focus on making things better right now and in the future. To this end, I will not throw up in someone's face something they have said previously in order to make them feel badly or embarassed again.
5. I will count to 10 before hitting the submit button when I write a post in response to something that has made me angry in order to insure that the above 4 provisions are met.
5a. I will not count to 10 with my teeth clenched, my brow furrowed, and my finger dangling over the submit button. (submitted by Mocha Mocha.)
6. I will not attribute motive to a post simply by virtue of the person posting. I will ascertain the 'motive' or purpose of the thread from it's content. If I am in doubt as to the motive, I will ask the poster to clarify rather than attacking.
7. I will keep in mind that this is a message board and that it's purpose it to provide entertainment and information.
8."Do unto others as you would have them do unto you." (submitted by chick-baby).
9 It is not necessary to always express your dissenting opinion or rebut(sp?) every challenge. Sometimes it is OK to ignore a thread or post (submitted by MollyBeBe)
10 "I will be willing to admit when i have responded poorly and will apologize when I feel it is appropriate" (submitted by kandkrose).
11..**Remembering that it takes 'two to tango', I will ignore people who are clearly trying to provoke a quarrel, keep one going, or seem unable or unwilling to abide by numbers 1-10
12. "I will not get in the middle of a disagreement between two peas when it clearly does not involve me. Even if I feel like I need to come to the defense of a friend, I will only do so if my friend is clearly incapable of fighting her own battles" (Submitted by Janice_in_Tx)
13."I won't post conversations or links from other chat boards that will cause nothing but trouble, or cause someone to become hurt by doing so.* " (submitted by babygotscraps)
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Anyone else willing to try to end the upsets of the last week and to end what has become the typical weekend nightmare here?
**Edited*** feel free to add any other 'pledges' you think would help keep things here from derailing so often.
***Edited again**** I'm really not looking to debate anything that's gone on in the past. For anyone who feels the need to do so, please see #4 above.
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| heatherj818 | | StuckOnPeas |  | | PeaNut 30149 - 2/18/2002 | | Posts: 2351 Layouts: 17 |
| Posted: 6/19/2004 1:11:31 AM
I am leaving in 20 minutes for sunny white beaches. So my pledge is to not think anything about 2peas! 
I'm downloading an audio book (The DaVinci Code) to listen to on the drive. And it's taking forever...
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| Posted: 6/19/2004 1:16:20 AM
WOW Lauren, good for you. I missed everything, as usual, but this is a great post from you. Good luck and hugs!
photobar courtesy of the wonderful lulusmom!
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| CMisforme | | PeaNut | | PeaNut 150609 - 6/5/2004 | | Posts: 15 Layouts: 0 | | Loc: TheMIghtyNOrtheast |
| Posted: 6/19/2004 1:18:28 AM
Wow that is the most impressive thing I have read on this board since I got here.
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| lulusmom | | One "Appealing" Pea | | PeaNut 1803 - 11/9/1999 | | Posts: 6469 Layouts: 18 | | Loc: The best place on earth...the good 'ol USA |
| Posted: 6/19/2004 1:22:37 AM
Well I see that over 70 people have read this and only two people have felt moved to post.
The 'pledges' mentioned are things that would make the board a much nicer place if all Peas agreed to abide by them, either by posting or by thought.
No one ever wants to think they have been mean or may have hurt someone else's feelings but the fact is, the disagreements show that people are perceiving what is said in different ways.
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| liljill72 | | PeaAddict |  | | PeaNut 17949 - 7/6/2001 | | Posts: 1632 Layouts: 73 | | Loc: Palm Desert, CA 92211 |
| Posted: 6/19/2004 1:24:58 AM
I find the OP's post very ironic.
Being honest here.
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| Chickie+Baby | | PeaNut |  | | PeaNut 47873 - 9/3/2002 | | Posts: 237 Layouts: 24 | | Loc: North Texas |
| Posted: 6/19/2004 1:24:58 AM
Great post! I'm all for it. My only other pledge to add...
"Do unto others as you would have them do unto you." Simple. 
Shannon
Mommy to my li'l Kaleigh *Poo*
And now these three remain: faith, hope, and love. But the greatest of these is love. 1 Corinthians 13:13
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| RnKMom | | PeaAddict | | PeaNut 80424 - 4/8/2003 | | Posts: 1229 Layouts: 0 | | Loc: Southern California |
|  Posted: 6/19/2004 1:25:48 AM
Gosh, this is such standard board etiquette all over the Web for so many years, I thought everyone was already well aware of it. Perhaps not. Glad you thought to write it out.
~Patricia~
"The best things in life... aren't things."
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| MollyBeBe | | LimPea, Speaks Softly and Carries a Big Stick | | PeaNut 79515 - 4/3/2003 | | Posts: 7304 Layouts: 2 | | Loc: Roundabout |
| Posted: 6/19/2004 1:27:57 AM
Great list Lauren.
I read them but don't feel a need to "sign" since I have tried to post with similar guidelines since the begining.
I'd add another one: It is not necessary to always express your dissenting opinion or rebut(sp?) every challenge. Sometimes it is OK to ignore a thread or post.
Wallflower JASMINE
Amiability and cheerfulness
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| lulusmom | | One "Appealing" Pea | | PeaNut 1803 - 11/9/1999 | | Posts: 6469 Layouts: 18 | | Loc: The best place on earth...the good 'ol USA |
| Posted: 6/19/2004 1:29:37 AM
I'd add another one: It is not necessary to always express your dissenting opinion or rebut(sp?) every challenge. Sometimes it is OK to ignore a thread or post.
That IS a good addition and came at just the right moment.
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| baybuny | | AncestralPea |  | | PeaNut 24034 - 11/1/2001 | | Posts: 4345 Layouts: 28 | | Loc: Orange County, CA |
| Posted: 6/19/2004 1:31:39 AM
lauren - good guidelines. i *try* to fall under them and i *think* i succeed - most of the time! 
laura Ü
  
if you get tired of shopping, sit down and try on shoes!
*~ask me about the OrangeCoPeas scrapping group!
i'm going to cku masters! yahoo!
"get over it" - kolkamtay (and the eagles!)
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| **Kelli** | | Politically Incorrect Pea | | PeaNut 28608 - 1/29/2002 | | Posts: 8544 Layouts: 100 |
| Posted: 6/19/2004 1:32:56 AM
I'm sorry, Lauren. But I don't think things are spinning out of control at 2peas. Not any more than normal, anyway.
While I agree with much of what you posted, I think the sheer heart of 2peas is what makes it the most popular SB message board out there.
Sometimes some of us lose our minds on this board and post things we later regret. We don't even have to say we regret what we said, but our peafriends 'get it' and don't ask for an explanation, and instead just take care of us until we're ready to begin posting in a reasonable manner again.
I know this from personal experience.
I hope you find peace or whatever it is you are looking for and I am sorry you've had such a hard time on 2peas lately and feel that some 'friends' haven't supported you in the way you think they should have. I would disagree with that, but tonight I have other things on my mind and really don't have the heart to disagree or argue with a POV that I don't think you'll ever understand. I really do just want us all to get along, because it would make me feel so much better. And I am that selfish.
But I realize that probably won't happen. So, hang in there, Lauren. That's probably all I have to say. I can't promise, but at the moment I have no clever comments.
Kelli
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| kandkrose | | PeaAddict | | PeaNut 59677 - 12/29/2002 | | Posts: 1450 Layouts: 6 |
| Posted: 6/19/2004 2:00:56 AM
I'll join in on that one... may I add another?
"I will be willing to admit when i have responded poorly and will apologize when I feel it is appropriate"
I dont want this to come across that peas should "make" others apologize or anything like that, but a big part of "making up" and getting past poor choices is to apologize. I'm the first one to admit that I've made mistakes, though I do try to go back and apologize if I feel my passion came across as heated and insulting...
and hopefully the first 10 will keep this one from ever having to be used!
God Bless! ~ Kristin
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| yakiscrappy | | AncestralPea |  | | PeaNut 70082 - 2/17/2003 | | Posts: 4727 Layouts: 37 | | Loc: Apple Country |
| Posted: 6/19/2004 2:09:59 AM
I am going out of town on Sunday so I *think* I can follow these rules for one day.
--Jamie
***When the Lord calls me home, whenever that day may be, I will leave with the greatest love for this country of ours and eternal optimism for its future." Ronald Reagan***
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| tupogirl | | Poor Old Lu Pea |  | | PeaNut 13226 - 3/27/2001 | | Posts: 11004 Layouts: 34 |
| Posted: 6/19/2004 2:12:11 AM
I would like to add...when things are stressful, turn the 'OFF' button! It's nice to have a magic button.
In Christ,
Pamela
I don't seem to remember your name.
Do you think you could share it with me?
:The Conversation:
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| briarrose86304 | | BucketHead |  | | PeaNut 56811 - 11/23/2002 | | Posts: 834 Layouts: 93 | | Loc: Arizona |
| Posted: 6/19/2004 2:12:41 AM
Great thread Lauren! I promise to do my part in upholding these very good guidlines!
-Rachel
*A Dream is a Wish Your Heart Makes*
briarrose86304@msn.com
***PROUD to vote for John Kerry 2004***
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| scrappycathy | | PeaFixture |  | | PeaNut 6462 - 9/6/2000 | | Posts: 3013 Layouts: 17 | | Loc: Texas |
| Posted: 6/19/2004 2:12:53 AM
a starbucks coffee i had 4 hrs. ago and a crying baby are keeping me up here! (excuse the lower caps---holding a baby and typing one-handed!)
i'm so glad to have seen this post. i hope more hatchets can be buried around this place.
my main thing is: i should let by-gones be by-gones. i am an incredible grudge holder. i vow to not hold grudges here and to be more accepting/forgiving of others, even when our beliefs/opinions don't jive.
on a lighter note, i am so freaked out by the friday night phenomenon at 2peas! it really is a mysterious thing! does anyone know about how long it's been going on?
Cathy
Proud mom, wife, chef, chauffeur, housekeeper, gingerbread collector, and scrapper of the family.
It's a GIRL!! Baby Emily arrived April 30th!!
 
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| 2 Labs 2 Many | | BucketHead | | PeaNut 115282 - 11/10/2003 | | Posts: 859 Layouts: 5 |
| Posted: 6/19/2004 4:23:13 AM
a lighter note, i am so freaked out by the friday night phenomenon at 2peas! it really is a mysterious thing! does anyone know about how long it's been going on?
I think it's a distinct possibility that some people drink a little on the weekends and it bolsters their "courage" or whatever. Okay - for some people, I supposed it makes them plain mean.
Carla
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Labrador Retrievers give you the bird.
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| Liss&TylersMom; | | PeaNut | | PeaNut 123548 - 1/10/2004 | | Posts: 293 Layouts: 0 | | Loc: The Alamo City! |
| Posted: 6/19/2004 4:31:46 AM
I REALLY, REALLY, REALLY, want an Ali Edwards Idea Book!
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| Butterbean | | BucketHead |  | | PeaNut 124091 - 1/12/2004 | | Posts: 528 Layouts: 0 |
| Posted: 6/19/2004 4:53:37 AM
 Are you OK Lauren?
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| christina0915 | | PeaNut | | PeaNut 127111 - 1/27/2004 | | Posts: 46 Layouts: 0 | | Loc: anywhere the USAF sends us! |
| Posted: 6/19/2004 5:34:33 AM
Bravo I am new here and was kind of shocked at the tone of some posts. I try to abide by those kind of rules anyway and I think I have been doing a pretty good job.
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| Chopped Liver :) | | Olympian Purple PEAple Eater |  | | PeaNut 43514 - 7/25/2002 | | Posts: 11611 Layouts: 42 | | Loc: South Jersey |
| Posted: 6/19/2004 7:41:19 AM
6. I will not attribute motive to a post simply by virtue of the person posting. I will ascertain the 'motive' or purpose of the thread from it's content.
Wow, that's a tough one.
Sam aka Gert 
"I used to have a handle on life, then it broke."
YaYa: Queen Eagle Eyes
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| scrapsalot | | Justice of the Peas |  | | PeaNut 1667 - 10/22/1999 | | Posts: 7453 Layouts: 119 | | Loc: US |
| Posted: 6/19/2004 8:07:00 AM
Wow - as is not unusual, I guess it's all in how you look at it. There have certainly been times recently, Lauren, when you apparently read things in posts that I didn't see - and neither did lots of other people. I think it's happened again - I don't think at all that things are "spinning out of control", but I'm sure like a lot of things if someone says it enough times, then it becomes the perceived reality.
Not to say the "rules" aren't great, but I agree with the earlier poster that they are just a good remnder of what I'd expected any poster to know all along.
Oh - I have another one:
I will not create negativity where none was intended or where none existed.
Susan
Originally member #93
Every mom is a full-time mom.
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| MoniqueS | | StuckOnPeas |  | | PeaNut 18246 - 7/12/2001 | | Posts: 2715 Layouts: 6 | | Loc: Tampa FL |
| Posted: 6/19/2004 8:15:00 AM
Oh - I have another one:
I will not create negativity where none was intended or where none existed.
ah...we should take down the Carolee's banner and put this one up. Bingo, Susan.
~ Monique ~
Tampa - Home of the 2004 Stanley Cup Champs - Tampa Bay Lightening!
"Theesh shread ish shnarky. hic." - Susan aka Huskerscrapper
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| scrapsalot | | Justice of the Peas | | | PeaNut 1667 - 10/22/1999 | | Posts: 7453 Layouts: 119 | | Loc: US |
| Posted: 6/19/2004 8:22:36 AM
Thanks Monique! 
OK - that smirky face didn't belong there at all but I've been wanting to use it!!
Susan
Originally member #93
Every mom is a full-time mom.
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| MoniqueS | | StuckOnPeas | | | PeaNut 18246 - 7/12/2001 | | Posts: 2715 Layouts: 6 | | Loc: Tampa FL |
| Posted: 6/19/2004 8:28:02 AM
None!!! And I look like grandma klump right now!! LOL! But if I wear one that is too small, I look like an alien that has 4 boobs!
LOL!! 
I am using the cool one a lot lately...I have no idea why!
~ Monique ~
Tampa - Home of the 2004 Stanley Cup Champs - Tampa Bay Lightening!
"Theesh shread ish shnarky. hic." - Susan aka Huskerscrapper
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| iamsusanscrapper | | PeaAddict |  | | PeaNut 52488 - 10/15/2002 | | Posts: 1697 Layouts: 9 | | Loc: Somewhere under all my scrapbook supplies! |
| Posted: 6/19/2004 8:33:18 AM
Sounds like a plan.
Susan
Wife/Mother/Sister/Daughter/Scrapbooker/Family Photographer
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| scrapsalot | | Justice of the Peas | | | PeaNut 1667 - 10/22/1999 | | Posts: 7453 Layouts: 119 | | Loc: US |
| Posted: 6/19/2004 8:38:28 AM
LOL Monique - I think you're copying and pasting was off-kilter a bit! But I got it anyway!! LOL
Susan
Originally member #93
Every mom is a full-time mom.
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| Seanna | | PeaAddict |  | | PeaNut 121018 - 12/28/2003 | | Posts: 1933 Layouts: 1 | | Loc: Florida |
| Posted: 6/19/2004 8:42:52 AM
Geez. All I did was read my library book last night because it's due back today and I'm trying to be good about these things.
What did I miss? I must go now and see what the big crisis is.
Seanna
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The right thing isn't always easy, and the easy thing isn't always right.
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| MaryPea | | AncestralPea |  | | PeaNut 51459 - 10/7/2002 | | Posts: 4126 Layouts: 3 | | Loc: in between homes.......... |
| Posted: 6/19/2004 8:43:20 AM
I'm with you...hope this is a controversy-free weekend here at 2peas!
Texas Aggie '93
shop til you drop....then crawl!!!!!
2004 Page goal: 100
2004 Pages complete: 44, 56 to go!
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| kolkamtay | | chocolate covered PEA~nut |  | | PeaNut 69694 - 2/15/2003 | | Posts: 10171 Layouts: 81 | | Loc: buffalo, ny... let it snow!!! |
| Posted: 6/19/2004 8:46:31 AM
very nice lauren
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proud to be a PEA!!!
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Never come between a WOMAN and her CHOCOLATE!
"Working too hard can give you a heart attack-ack-ack-ack-ack-ack!" ~Billy Joel
  
"People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought which they never use." ~Kierkegaard
 
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| MoniqueS | | StuckOnPeas | | | PeaNut 18246 - 7/12/2001 | | Posts: 2715 Layouts: 6 | | Loc: Tampa FL |
| Posted: 6/19/2004 9:07:34 AM
Susan! ack, that is from Heather's boob thread, lol!
I think I'll leave it unedited 
~ Monique ~
Tampa - Home of the 2004 Stanley Cup Champs - Tampa Bay Lightening!
"Theesh shread ish shnarky. hic." - Susan aka Huskerscrapper
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| sisterscrap | | PeaNut |  | | PeaNut 143215 - 4/22/2004 | | Posts: 269 Layouts: 0 | | Loc: Southwest Minnesota |
| Posted: 6/19/2004 9:11:54 AM
Thank you for posting this Lauren. I absolutely agree.
http://free.inkfrog.com/pix/morgansmom03/Animation1.gif
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| StephStanley | | I'm PEA'ing Sunshine!Ü! |  | | PeaNut 69964 - 2/16/2003 | | Posts: 6882 Layouts: 136 | | Loc: Virginia |
| Posted: 6/19/2004 10:21:49 AM
Jeez, am I gonna have to be witchy all by my lonesome? what fun is that?
Kidding- good post Lauren.
Steph, forever sweetheart to Billy Creativity takes courage
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| lulusmom | | One "Appealing" Pea | | PeaNut 1803 - 11/9/1999 | | Posts: 6469 Layouts: 18 | | Loc: The best place on earth...the good 'ol USA |
| Posted: 6/19/2004 10:24:50 AM
I've just added a #11 and for me, that's one of the most important.
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| kolkamtay | | chocolate covered PEA~nut | | | PeaNut 69694 - 2/15/2003 | | Posts: 10171 Layouts: 81 | | Loc: buffalo, ny... let it snow!!! |
| Posted: 6/19/2004 10:25:51 AM
good for you lauren
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proud to be a PEA!!!
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Never come between a WOMAN and her CHOCOLATE!
"Working too hard can give you a heart attack-ack-ack-ack-ack-ack!" ~Billy Joel
"People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought which they never use." ~Kierkegaard
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| Sailorslady | | TX Pea Shooter |  | | PeaNut 48496 - 9/9/2002 | | Posts: 9284 Layouts: 10 | | Loc: Could be TX, could be ME |
| Posted: 6/19/2004 10:29:17 AM
Well Lauren, this got posted after I was sent to bed, and i'm just now getting around to reading it. Great list of things to consider. Good job to all of you!! These really are many of the things that I try to follow here.
And about this comment
I find the OP's post very ironic.
Being honest here.
I would refer this poster to items #2 and #4.
It kills me when women say hurtful things and then justify it by saying "Just being honest".
If such honesty were really necessary, there'd be alot of people being told their butt was big. That's not very nice either is it?
~~Melani~~~
2Ps very own oxymoron - natural livin', eco friendly, conservative voting, member of the NRA. Nervous yet?
Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. - Dr. Suess
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| favfourcrew | | StuckOnPeas |  | | PeaNut 91977 - 6/21/2003 | | Posts: 2602 Layouts: 14 | | Loc: 4 diapers, 2 runny noses, and 1 tantrum away from insanity... |
| Posted: 6/19/2004 10:36:15 AM
how about this one...we can follow this guideline as well.... code 1 being easy going to code 4 -- LOOK OUT
ONE WILL IDENTIFY IF THIS IS A ....
1. PRE- PREMENSTRAL WEEK---aka gettin' bitchy
CODE 2
2. PREMENSTRAL WEEK--bitchy and irritated and also bloating so my pants don't fit issues (NO it is not from the whole bag of OREOS i ate in the last five minutes...NOW GET AWAY !!!!!!!!!!!)
CODE 4
3. MENSTRAL WEEK--bitchy, irritated, and goin'-without-sex-so-i-am-pissed-off too...not too mention i cannot safely wear my white pants problem CODE 3
4. POST MENSTRAL WEEK--going around making amends for the past three weeks...give this chick a break i am exhausted now...but at least i am having sex again..WINK....lol CODE 1
this will give us all the indication in the world how to take threads with the above physical and mental conditions accounted for....lol lol lol lol.. btw i am a NUMBER 3 this week.... so watch out...
   
LORI
I am the momma of two wonderful boys--Christopher and Erik...YEP...In the middle of the storm is where you will find me...Complete with footballs, frogs and a gooey peanut butter sandwich...
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| Croptilyoupop | | PeaNut | | PeaNut 124435 - 1/14/2004 | | Posts: 106 Layouts: 0 |
| Posted: 6/19/2004 10:37:03 AM
Even if Lauren is the only one who follows these, the board will be a much nicer place. Hypocrite alert.
If I don't crop, I might POP! 
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| lulusmom | | One "Appealing" Pea | | PeaNut 1803 - 11/9/1999 | | Posts: 6469 Layouts: 18 | | Loc: The best place on earth...the good 'ol USA |
| Posted: 6/19/2004 10:39:02 AM
Lori: I like it!
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| Chopped Liver :) | | Olympian Purple PEAple Eater | | | PeaNut 43514 - 7/25/2002 | | Posts: 11611 Layouts: 42 | | Loc: South Jersey |
| Posted: 6/19/2004 10:39:51 AM
You know what Lauren, if you actually mean what you are saying, I think that's great. I can try to let bygones be bygones, but some of us have been burned by you too many times to take this post at face value.
Sam aka Gert
"I used to have a handle on life, then it broke."
YaYa: Queen Eagle Eyes
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| Sailorslady | | TX Pea Shooter | | | PeaNut 48496 - 9/9/2002 | | Posts: 9284 Layouts: 10 | | Loc: Could be TX, could be ME |
| Posted: 6/19/2004 10:41:20 AM
Even if Lauren is the only one who follows these, the board will be a much nicer place. Hypocrite alert.
Actually, I think it might be a nicer place if YOU followed these.
I have to say that Lauren and I butted heads quite loudly at first, but we both apologized and have moved on. Now I consider her a dear friend.
One thing that I have found truly valuable in my life is to allow people to make mistakes, grant them forgiveness and to change or be different from my expectations.
That being the case, I will hope that you are having a bad day and in the future will refrain from being so blatantly mean.
~~Melani~~~
2Ps very own oxymoron - natural livin', eco friendly, conservative voting, member of the NRA. Nervous yet?
Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. - Dr. Suess
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| lulusmom | | One "Appealing" Pea | | PeaNut 1803 - 11/9/1999 | | Posts: 6469 Layouts: 18 | | Loc: The best place on earth...the good 'ol USA |
| Posted: 6/19/2004 10:46:36 AM
Sam, all I can do is focus on myself and my own intention to follow these guidelines. There have been several posts here whose intent is to either provoke me or to keep old grudges alive. (I am not referring to yours). Since I cannot control those other people, I'll keep re-reading #11,strengthen my own resolve to abide by these 'rules' and ignore them.
Your post seems genuine and so let me say that it is my hope that everyone can let by-gones-be-bygones. This will not happen overnight but I think if everyone tries to give everyone else the benefit of the doubt, it will happen a lot faster.
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| Chopped Liver :) | | Olympian Purple PEAple Eater | | | PeaNut 43514 - 7/25/2002 | | Posts: 11611 Layouts: 42 | | Loc: South Jersey |
| Posted: 6/19/2004 10:55:40 AM
Sam, all I can do is focus on myself and my own intention to follow these guidelines. There have been several posts here whose intent is to either provoke me or to keep old grudges alive. (I am not referring to yours). Since I cannot control those other people, I'll keep re-reading #11,strengthen my own resolve to abide by these 'rules' and ignore them.
Your post seems genuine and so let me say that it is my hope that everyone can let by-gones-be-bygones. This will not happen overnight but I think if everyone tries to give everyone else the benefit of the doubt, it will happen a lot faster.
Fair enough. I agree with you.
Oh and my post is sincere. If you stick with your own rules, you will not see another negative post from me.
Sam aka Gert
"I used to have a handle on life, then it broke."
YaYa: Queen Eagle Eyes
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| lulusmom | | One "Appealing" Pea | | PeaNut 1803 - 11/9/1999 | | Posts: 6469 Layouts: 18 | | Loc: The best place on earth...the good 'ol USA |
| Posted: 6/19/2004 10:58:30 AM
Thank you.
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| scrappycathy | | PeaFixture | | | PeaNut 6462 - 9/6/2000 | | Posts: 3013 Layouts: 17 | | Loc: Texas |
| Posted: 6/19/2004 10:58:36 AM
Lauren,
I hope you don't think I'm one of those. Like Sam said, I can move on and be civil if you can too. I am being sincere.
*edited* My Friday night phenomenon comment wasn't about this thread at all...it was in reference to others!!
Cathy
Proud mom, wife, chef, chauffeur, housekeeper, gingerbread collector, and scrapper of the family.
It's a GIRL!! Baby Emily arrived April 30th!!
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| lulusmom | | One "Appealing" Pea | | PeaNut 1803 - 11/9/1999 | | Posts: 6469 Layouts: 18 | | Loc: The best place on earth...the good 'ol USA |
| Posted: 6/19/2004 10:59:25 AM
Cathy, you and I resolved things last night and I'm glad we did. No, I was not referring to you at all.
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| Carol in SLC | | AncestralPea |  | | PeaNut 21886 - 9/23/2001 | | Posts: 4905 Layouts: 170 | | Loc: The Gorgeous Rocky Mountains |
|  Posted: 6/19/2004 11:02:12 AM
Lauren, I think common decency calls for most of these edicts, and I believe quite honestly that the vast majority of peas try to live by them already. That said, I don't think it hurts for us all to be reminded.
Carol in SLC
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| Janice_in_TX | | PeaNut | | PeaNut 2978 - 2/24/2000 | | Posts: 420 Layouts: 0 | | Loc: Texas |
| Posted: 6/19/2004 1:23:24 PM
I think these are wonderful suggestions. If we al keep them in mind, things should run a lot smoother around here.
May I suggest another one?
"I will not get in the middle of a disagreement between two peas when it clearly does not involve me. Even if I feel like I need to come to the defense of a friend, I will only do so if my friend is clearly incapable of fighting her own battles. However, most of the time, peas are perfectly capable of defending themselves and do not need help from their friends, so any involvement from others will just fan the flames and make things worse, usually leading to accusations of cliquey behavior."
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| Seanna | | PeaAddict | | | PeaNut 121018 - 12/28/2003 | | Posts: 1933 Layouts: 1 | | Loc: Florida |
| Posted: 6/19/2004 2:09:21 PM
Well, this sounds reasonable. Huskerscrapper had a pledge going back several months ago that was similar. Anybody remember? I think hers was a little simpler, though.
I hope it works out for you, Lauren.
Seanna
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