Bad Touareg! Bad Touareg!
This is a picture of a Volkswagen Touareg SUV. Cool vehicle in concept. Unfortunately, poor VW execution and customer service makes this car frustrating to own. I should know. I own one.
Don't get me wrong. I love the (concept of the) car. I just can't stand all of the time, energy and money I have had to spend addressing all of its issues. It's like having a Labrador Retriever puppy. You love them even though they tear everything in the house to pieces. (I know. You don't pay $48K for a Lab. But you know what I mean.)
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Why Have I Posted This Web Page?
The Touareg Culture. Learn it. Know it. Live it.
VOA Touareg TSB Listings As Of August 1st, 2004
Other Touareg Information Links
Why Have I Posted This Web Page?
There are a number of reasons...
It is good to know that if a vehicle has a proclivity for issues what those issues are before buying the car. And, even if you already own one it's good to know what things you should be on the look out for. (As a reference I have cut and pasted a list of TSBs from the VW web site at the bottom of this page. Visit their web site for the latest TSB information.)
Also, it is in my nature to post bugs. I work for a multi-billion dollar company that makes IP (Internet Protocol) communications equipment. We pioneered public bug listings 20 years ago and continue to publicly publish all known bugs for all of our products. We even have a publicly accessible on-line tool that lets our engineers, customers and prospective customers do bug scrubs on all of our products. It is the right thing to do.
On top of that they provided me with a replacement that had almost 500 miles on it already. The Kansas lemon law statues state that "the manufacturer shall replace the motor vehicle with a comparable motor vehicle". VW's interpretation of this was to provide me with a high mileage surplus inventory vehicle. So, again, instead of trying to satiate a dissatisfied customer they stuck to an interpretation of the Kansas statues which benefited them and not me, their customer.
My message here is simple: Before you buy a Touareg research the lemon law in your state. This way if you end up with a lemon Touareg you can be certain on the front side that your state's lemon law statues will provide you with a full refund of all of your money or a brand new vehicle. If your state's lemon laws don't make these provisions, or provisions you would be satisfied with in the event you do get a lemon Touareg, then I would strongly suggest you consider a different vehicle. Otherwise you can end up continuing to pay for a car you thought you had already paid an agreed upon price for. Below is a URL that links you to your state's lemon laws:
http://autopedia.com/html/HotLinks_Lemon.html
So, one of the reasons I post this page is so that those considering a Touareg can learn from my mistakes and misfortune.
Having said that, the Vortex is a VERY large place covering all topics related to Touaregs. I wanted to devote a site that was specific to the issues that have been reported and/or discussed on the Vortex, in the media and with my Touareg.
Here is a list of the issues that are common to this vehicle. Some are irritating. Some are safety issues. All of them lead to of hours (even months) of time at the dealer getting "fixed".
Some are issues that render the vehicle unreliable. The issues highlighted in red are issues with which I have personal experience. Sadly this is only a partial list of all Touareg bugs. Ideally I would like to be able to list the Technical Service Bulletins (TSB) issued by VW for each defect (perhaps in the future). For now, here is just a list of issues.
In my case this was a suspension issue that required the removal of all 4 of my suspension sensors and the computer controller they feed into. Five days later I had my Touareg back.
Eventually VW released a second TSB (Technical Service Bulletin) that was to address the problem. (If you decide to buy a Touareg you need to familiarize yourself with their lingo. TSB is a good one to know because you will hear your service manager use that acronym that a lot.) Unfortunately, the first and second attempts to correct the issue made the problem even worse for my vehicle. A second TSB has recently been announced. I have not yet brought my vehicle back in for the second TSB fix. I understand that this TSB does actually extend the key fob range to about 20 feet.
Being that I live in the Mid-West where temperatures can reach 100 degrees with very high humidity this represents a big problem considering that it is not appropriate for me to show up to my customer appointments sweating and sticky.
Nice (hairy) knee
They called this NAV/Stereo a "head-end unit". The first one they ordered took 4 weeks to come in. When it did arrive they installed it only to find that the replacement did not pass the diagnostic tests they ran on the unit. So they put the rebooting unit back in, ordered a second replacement head-end unit which arrived another 3 weeks later. This one installed and is in the vehicle today and I have had no rebooting issues with the new unit. This issue was discussed in the forums but I do not believe there was ever a TSB announced for this issue.
The light came on as I was picking my parents up at the airport. My parents (who tend to question my judgment on most things anyway) were aware of the issues I had been having with my Touareg and were certain that the car was going to catch on fire. Needless to say, the drive from the airport to their house was tense (more so than normal anyway).
As it turns out (after another 4 days in the shop) there was a bad hose connection in the engine compartment that was leaking exhaust. They had to run a smoke machine to isolate which hose it was and then replace the faulty hose.
A faulty stepper motor also leads to another common issue with the Touareg which is irregular and rapid tire wear. VW has replaced many Touareg owner's tires as a result of this issue.
I was told I would receive the smaller replacement head rest but never did. Not a huge deal because I normally just store the bulky thing in the first aid storage area. However, when you look through your rear view mirror with the large head rest in place you have to wonder what the heck they were thinking when they let those out of the door. It really does obstruct the majority of your rear view vision.
The Touareg Culture. Learn it. Know it. Live it.
I have found that most Touareg owners have a cult like devotion towards their Touareg vehicles and the Touareg community on the Vortex. Even those with many of the same issues that I have experienced stand (in some degree of denial) by their Touaregs. After all, how could a product be so amazing and yet so crappy all at the same time? I can make this claim because I myself feel this same defensive compulsion and I've made many of the standard excuses on behalf of VW and my Touareg. "It's a first year vehicle and is likely to have a few bugs.", or "It's not a big deal. I'll just wait until my next service visit to address those 5 issues." It is irrational but many times love is.
Other Touareg owners claim they have never had any problems with their Touaregs. The question I have for those owners (and VW) is, if you have the same computer controllers and components in your Touareg that I have in my Touareg then what is the difference between my lemon and your vehicle and how long do you think you're going to have to wait until you do have some of these issues? Hopefully the answer is, there is a major difference in the components and, as a result, they will never have the problems I have had with my lemon Touareg. I don't know and VW isn't saying.
Some have said that VW stopped production and retooled the plant at the beginning of the year (2004) and that many of the bugs have been worked out of the manufacturing. Hopefully this is the case. Although new drivers appear on the forums everyday with many of these same issues.
It really isn't that difficult.
If VW can:
If VW can make these adjustments for future vehicles they will have a long term success strategy for their vehicles here in the U.S. If they continue to use the same practices that have gotten them to the bottom of most quality ratings lists (JD Power & Associates 2004 Customer Satisfaction Ratings) then that is where they will stay and their sales in the US will fall.
VOA Touareg TSB Listings As Of August 1st, 2004
Below are all of the one sentence TSBs descriptions issued for the Touareg as of August 1st, 2004. So far there are 64. I cut and pasted these from VOA's TSB web site. They charge $4.00 for the first TSB and $2.00 for each additional TSB. You can access their web site for more updated TSB information at the following URL:
Item | Description | In Stock | Price |
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A910407 | TB AUDI GEKO RADIO CODE RETRIEVAL USING |
Yes | $2.00 |
A920401 | TB AUDI WIPER BLADES DO NOT CLEAN WINDSH |
Yes | $2.00 |
A940401 | TB AUDI EXTERIOR LIGHTS MOISTURE ACCUMUL |
Yes | $2.00 |
V000304 | TB VW BATTERY CHECKING TERMINAL CLAMPS |
Yes | $2.00 |
V000305 | TB VW HEADLIGHTS ADJUSTEMENT OF PDI NOT |
Yes | $2.00 |
V000306 | TB VW NEW VEHICLE DETAILER RESPONSIBILIT |
Yes | $2.00 |
V000308 | TB VW VEHICLE INSP., PROTECTION REMOVAL |
Yes | $2.00 |
V000309 | TB VW ENGINE UPPER COVERS MISSING AT PDI |
Yes | $2.00 |
V000402 | TB VW BATTERY CUT-OFF SWITCH DISCONNECT |
Yes | $2.00 |
V000403 | TB VW BATTERY CUT-OFF DEVICE REMOVE PDI |
Yes | $2.00 |
Item | Description | In Stock | Price |
---|---|---|---|
V000404 | TB VW TECH PREPARATION CALLING DLR TECH |
Yes | $2.00 |
V000405 | TB VW AUTOMATIC BATTERY CUTOFF SWITCH |
Yes | $2.00 |
V010307 | TB VW UPDATE PROGRAMMING (FLASHING) CONT |
No | $2.00 |
V010408 | TB VW ENGINE CONTROL MODULE ADDITION DTC |
Yes | $2.00 |
V010411 | TB VW UPDATE PROGRAMMING (FLASHING) TCM |
Yes | $2.00 |
V010413 | TB VW UPDATE PROG FLASHING TCM HARSH SHI |
Yes | $2.00 |
V010414 | TB VW ECM DO NOT REPLACE THESE DTC'S |
Yes | $2.00 |
V150401 | TB VW MIL ON WITH DTCS P1347/17755 P1340 |
Yes | $2.00 |
V170301 | TB VW ENGINE OIL, SPECIAL REQUIREMENT |
Yes | $2.00 |
V240401 | TB VW INTAKE SYSTEM CHECK LEAKS VAG TOOL |
Yes | $2.00 |
Item | Description | In Stock | Price |
---|---|---|---|
V270302 | TB VW BATTERY TESTING AND CHARGING MIDTR |
Yes | $2.00 |
V270303 | TB VW BATTERY, MAINTAINING CHARGE DURING |
Yes | $2.00 |
V340402 | TB VW TRANSFER CASE, CHECKING/REPLACE BN |
Yes | $2.00 |
V390402 | TB VW DURING LOW SPEED TURNS/MANEUVERING |
Yes | $2.00 |
V430401 | TB VW SELF-LEVELING SUSPENSION ERROR MES |
Yes | $2.00 |
V440402 | TB VW TIRE PRESSURE MONITORING SYS ANTEN |
Yes | $2.00 |
V440403 | TB VW TIRE PRESSURE MONITORING SYS WARNI |
Yes | $2.00 |
V440404 | TB VW TIRE PRESSURE MONITORING SYS MODUL |
Yes | $2.00 |
V500401 | TB VW PAINT FINISH, REMOVING INDUSTRIAL |
Yes | $2.00 |
V550401 | TB VW REAR HATCH GLASS, OPEN WARNING DIS |
Yes | $2.00 |
Item | Description | In Stock | Price |
---|---|---|---|
V570302 | TB VW ALARM SOUNDS IF TRAILER WIRING IS |
Yes | $2.00 |
V570303 | TB VW EFFECTIVE RANGE OF REMOTE CONTROL |
Yes | $2.00 |
V570304 | VW TB REMOTE CONTROL KEY TRANSMITTER PRO |
Yes | $2.00 |
V570404 | TB VW FOLDING KEY RADIO REMOTE CONTROL |
Yes | $2.00 |
V630301 | TB VW FRONT BUMPER, INSTALLING FRONT LIC |
Yes | $2.00 |
V640301 | TB VW NEW VEHICLE WINDSHIELD REAR SIDE |
Yes | $2.00 |
V640302 | TB VW NEW VEHICLE WINDSHIELD REAR SIDE G |
No | $2.00 |
V680301 | TB VW REAR SEAT ARMREST LID, DISENGAGED |
Yes | $2.00 |
V680302 | TB VW REAR SEAT ARMREST INCREASING CUPHO |
Yes | $2.00 |
V680303 | TB VW FRONT ARMREST CUPHOLDER LATCH MECH |
Yes | $2.00 |
Item | Description | In Stock | Price |
---|---|---|---|
V690401 | TB VW PASSENGER OCCUPANT DETECTION SYS |
Yes | $2.00 |
V690402 | TB VW SIDE AIRBAG IGNITER DIAG TROUBLE |
Yes | $2.00 |
V690403 | TB VW PASSENGER OCCUPANT DETECTION SYS |
No | $2.00 |
V700303 | TB VW FRONT DOOR PANEL VINYL PEELING AWA |
Yes | $2.00 |
V870302 | TB VW AC COMPRESSOR INOPERATIVE DTC00445 |
Yes | $2.00 |
V870402 | TB VW WINDSHIELD CONDENSATION EXT LOWER |
No | $2.00 |
V910301 | TB VW ROOF DISPLAY FOR COMPASS ADAPTING |
Yes | $2.00 |
V910302 | TB VW RADIO, TONE, BALANCE OR FADER KNOB |
Yes | $2.00 |
V910401 | TB VW COMPACT DISC (CD) DISPLAYS ERR COD |
Yes | $2.00 |
V910402 | TB VW RADIO INOPERATIVE AFTER REPLACEMEN |
Yes | $2.00 |
Item | Description | In Stock | Price |
---|---|---|---|
V910406 | TB VW RADIO, INSUFFICIENT BASS OUTPUT BE |
Yes | $2.00 |
V940301 | TB VW HEADLIGHTS, MOISTURE ACCUMULATION |
Yes | $2.00 |
V940302 | TB VW GAS DISCHARGE HEADLIGHT SYSTEM COD |
Yes | $2.00 |
V940303 | TB VW TAIL LIGHT ASSEMBLY, REVOVAL PROCE |
Yes | $2.00 |
Other Touareg Information Links
Here is the Care Review Touareg Web Site with a number of owner reviews:
http://www.carreview.com/SUV/Volkswagen,Touareg/PRD_292514_1524crx.aspx
Another site you can visit for additional information is:
http://www.touaregproblems.com
Finally, the most comprehensive place to get information on the Touareg is at the VW Vortex web site. The strength of this site is that it has everything. The weakness of this site is that it has everything. In other words, there is so much there it can sometimes be difficult to find exactly what you are looking for. But it will serve you regardless of what you are looking for.
http://forums.vwvortex.com/zeroforum?id=39
Club Touareg is also a site with useful information:
My favorite web site for general Touareg information:
This is the site that got me interested in the Touareg to begin with.
I sincerely hope this page helps potential and existing owners.
If you have any questions feel free to email me at indridcold@kc.rr.com. This email address will be changing shortly. I will post the new one once I have changed providers.
Thanks for visiting my Bad Touareg! Bad Touareg! web site.
Mike Watson
Bad dog! Bad dog!
Page last edited on August 7th, 2004