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From:  cf2112 Authentic
Date:  05/18/05 8:40 PM

I was in Vegas 5/12-5/16 and visited twice, smoked and WOAM and Hemi Classic sungrown, had a few mojito's and bought 2 boxes 858sg's, a box of Hemi Classic sg's, a handful or two of the WOAM and a bunch of singles.

The Casa Fuente cigars had not arrived yet and were to be there the day after I left they are also to get some unreleased stuff also, like Footballs

Prices were not that bad (for Vegas) 5 beans for the Hemi box, 2 1/2 beans + a little for the 858sg's and they're shipping them to me. They're in the Forum Mall and I'm sure the rent is outragous. I visited a LCdH in Toronto recently, if you want to see unreasonable prices 1 bean for a (1) Cohiba DC EL. So after that these looked like a bargain.

Nothing beats walking into the humidor and seeing, feeling, and picking your smoke, stuff you don't see everyday. Knowledgable staff (not hard on the eyes either)only down fall is no phone orders, must purchase in person.

They're doing really well from what I saw, boxes of stuff going out by the minute and always a few people sitting out smoking and drinking. When I go back ot Vegas I'll stop in again.

They say the mind is a terrible thing to waste-----------So I sold mine


From:  capitalist Authentic
Date:  05/18/05 9:18 PM

high quality goodies... Can they keep it stocked?

Best Regards...

CAPITALIST
ECSBC

Son of the greatest dog rocket smoker in the USA.
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From:  d2d4 Authentic
Date:  05/18/05 10:48 PM

Wonder what retail outlet will be the first to carry the 13's we have all been patiently waiting to purchase?..


From:  N Authentic
Date:  05/19/05 9:57 AM

5 bills for a box of Hemi SG and 2 1/2 for 858 SG? The market has been set! LOL!

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Nick


From:  Scott From NY Authentic
Date:  05/19/05 10:01 AM

Man I wish I was able to buy 858SG's again without flying to Vegas. Bravo BRAVO, way to take care of those loyal customers.

Scott From NY
Only Fuente Is Fuente
Be nice! I am getting OLD but I am still IMPRESSIONABLE!!

[sigimage]


From:  smokering Authentic
Date:  05/19/05 10:28 AM

Scotty....don't you mostly smoke cubans?

Smokering }-[sigimage]

How can you trust a man who wears both a belt and suspenders? The man can't even trust his own pants.


From:  Scott From NY Authentic
Date:  05/19/05 10:36 AM

Actually Lance I am about 50/50 cubans Fuente ( throw in some Padrons as well)

Scott From NY
Only Fuente Is Fuente
Be nice! I am getting OLD but I am still IMPRESSIONABLE!!

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From:  FlyFish Authentic
Date:  05/19/05 10:50 AM

This is not right! Limited production...unless you have the money to fly to Vegas and overpay times two. I agree with Scott, It's a slap to the loyal customer base.

tight lines and long ashes


From:  BK Collector Authentic
Date:  05/19/05 10:56 AM

Business is Business

By saying "I don't know" you appear more intelligent than shaking your head like you know when someone knows you don't.


From:  smokering Authentic
Date:  05/19/05 10:58 AM

OTOH...Everyone can't buy Ferraris, Bentleys and Lear Jets. The rich need something that can seperate them from the not so wealthy. I mean BMW's used to be inexpensive until the company found out how many people would pay more. Shit, at least Davidoff and Padron 40th Anniversaries has some price competition now.

Smokering }-[sigimage]

How can you trust a man who wears both a belt and suspenders? The man can't even trust his own pants.


From:  joeman Authentic
Date:  05/19/05 11:05 AM

In Vegas there is no medium. Its 99 cent buffets or $500 meals. As for the store, it fits, and its ok. I'll stop in next time I'm there.


From:  The Master Authentic
Date:  05/19/05 11:06 AM

Slap to the face.........bullshit.Scotty and Flyfish Just because your two retailers cry for more Fuente, it doesn't mean they are in line to deserve more. Maybe they are slow payers, maybe they are too knew, maybe they don't sell squat for Cueste Rey and Diamond Crown, maybe they are just assholes who deserve nothing.


From:  Scott From NY Authentic
Date:  05/19/05 11:13 AM

Who the hell is talking about retailers here Harris? I still believe I am a customer, no? Take for instance a particular shop I got to, owner is a member here in VERY good standing both on CF and in the F&N; eyes. He has gotten 858SG every time they were released and I have bought them, now odds are I won't ever be able to do that again and if I am maybe 2-4 at a time. But Joe jagoff can walk in Casa and buy 2 boxes. And you don't see a problem with that? Hemi Classic sungrowns, how many boxes made it out across the country, now boxes selling in the Casa. I guess you and I will just disagree vehemently on this one brother.

Scott From NY
Only Fuente Is Fuente
Be nice! I am getting OLD but I am still IMPRESSIONABLE!!

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From:  FlyFish Authentic
Date:  05/19/05 11:26 AM

"Maybe they are just assholes" Boy, talk about making assumptions.

Look Master, with all respect to you and your knowledge about this stuff, I know it's business. It's thier ball and they can play with it any way they want. I know that. I for one just don't happen to like the way they are doing it. I have high regard for the Fuentes, but I do see this as a slap to those of us schmoes who are loyal to them but don't have airfare money and two and a half bills for 858SG. That's MHO .

tight lines and long ashes


From:  The Master Authentic
Date:  05/19/05 11:35 AM

Guys,just because Casa Fuente gets what ever, it doesn't mean it was taken from your shops. If Casa Fuente never existed, do you think your shops would get more product? I don't think so.


From:  Scott From NY Authentic
Date:  05/19/05 11:40 AM

Nope actually I was prtetty sure not many of my local shops sold boxes of 858SG and a box of classic SG to a single customer either but I may be wrong.

Scott From NY
Only Fuente Is Fuente
Be nice! I am getting OLD but I am still IMPRESSIONABLE!!

[sigimage]


From:  cigarvp Authentic
Date:  05/19/05 11:41 AM

$10 a stick for 858SG is cheap, no???

E-Mail cigarVP [sigimage] Czar of Sarcasm & Opi Huer

Faulie the Puente Puente Ofus Fimf


From:  FlyFish Authentic
Date:  05/19/05 11:42 AM

I think we are all tired of beating our respective dead horses, and that is where we are with this. I didn;t think this was a great idea when I heard about it, my locals aren't thrilled either. Hopefully we will all be proven wrong in our concerns. I think we will just disagree about this.

cf2112, sorry for participating in the threadjack, I am glad you scored some great cigars. Enjoy them.

tight lines and long ashes


From:  bam Authentic
Date:  05/19/05 12:10 PM

Hey, I just got a box of WOAM from Holts. If demand is high enough, Casa Fuente will be like Holts and sell the stock as fast as it comes in. If you are going to bitch about Casa Fuente, then bitch about Holts.

BAM


From:  Scott From NY Authentic
Date:  05/19/05 12:18 PM

Actually Barry we are, common owners or parts there of I believe anyway. I bet your box of WOAM from Holts was a little cheaper than flying to vegas and buying them in Casa, no?

Scott From NY
Only Fuente Is Fuente
Be nice! I am getting OLD but I am still IMPRESSIONABLE!!

[sigimage]


From:  The Master Authentic
Date:  05/19/05 12:18 PM

Or bitch about Tampa Sweethearts, or Famous or Moms.


From:  Scott From NY Authentic
Date:  05/19/05 12:24 PM

Why Harris? Do those shops have boxes of 858SG and Classic SG F/S? If so lmk, Thanks

Scott From NY
Only Fuente Is Fuente
Be nice! I am getting OLD but I am still IMPRESSIONABLE!!

[sigimage]


From:  The Master Authentic
Date:  05/19/05 12:25 PM

Who knows, get off your ass and find out.lol


From:  Scott From NY Authentic
Date:  05/19/05 12:28 PM

I friggin' hate you Harris-LOL

Scott From NY
Only Fuente Is Fuente
Be nice! I am getting OLD but I am still IMPRESSIONABLE!!

[sigimage]


From:  bam Authentic
Date:  05/19/05 12:56 PM

LOL

BAM


From:  bfreebe Authentic
Date:  05/19/05 1:04 PM

Come back tomorrow Anon.


From:  wansingct Authentic
Date:  05/19/05 1:07 PM

Rob, glad to hear you had such a good time and were able to come back with such a great score man!! Good stuff!

"Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work." - Thomas Edison


From:  caddye Authentic
Date:  05/19/05 1:09 PM

I don't think they can continue to supply that store with the quantity of cigars that it is capable of selling without drastically reducing the supply to other retailers. When you have one person posting that they were able to buy 2 boxes of 858 sgs just like that, how long do you think it would take to sell a whole years production of them? Actually, I don't think they will be able to maintain this, even if they never shipped another box to any retailer.

Caddye


From:  Fuente Authentic
Date:  05/19/05 1:24 PM

"Maybe they are slow payers, maybe they are too knew, maybe they don't sell squat for Cueste Rey and Diamond Crown, maybe they are just assholes who deserve nothing."

The quote above is from The Master...

Will the CF legal department correct me if found wrong... The practice of requiring the purchase of one item to be able to purchase another... telling someone that they cannot purchase item A+ unless they purchase item C- and B- is unlawful under the US trade laws. Payment record or other distribution policies may allow the vendor not to sell a customer a product but they cannot make you buy x to be able to buy Y.

Rich

Candidate for Governor of Georgia

Fuente
Just another cigar smoker

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From:  Scott From NY Authentic
Date:  05/19/05 1:26 PM

you know these friggin' know it all dinosaurs just keep posting facts again-LOL

Scott From NY
Only Fuente Is Fuente
Be nice! I am getting OLD but I am still IMPRESSIONABLE!!

[sigimage]


From:  Gran Consul Authentic
Date:  05/19/05 1:29 PM

Interestingly, Holt's will sell a box of WOAM when they have them via mail order, but in the store they limit to 2 sticks.

Every other shop that I know of in this area either did not get any of the special sticks or if they did, it was limit 1-2. Not even "Fuente Heaven" will allow box purchases of these sticks.

I ain’t leaving this party tonight ’til I see some naked babes dancin’ around drunk touchin’ each other


From:  The Master Authentic
Date:  05/19/05 1:34 PM

You just couldn't let it go Scotty.

How about this.........coming to someone’s place of business which we enjoy for free and then bitch about how they conduct said business is the height of classlessness.


From:  bam Authentic
Date:  05/19/05 1:38 PM

or this........being a Yankees fan is the height of classlessness.

BAM


From:  Scott From NY Authentic
Date:  05/19/05 1:43 PM

I guess it is. You know me, Mr Classless. I guess I should drink some more Kool-aid and not have opinions. I'm just trying to get my facts straight Harris. Trying to see which story is the correct one. Hemi classic SG was a one time release or so I thought we were told, and the 858SG were done too. Just so confused, sorry buddy. I'll get back to work. Let me know when all stories, rumors and such are settled so I have a better understanding of the facts.

Scott From NY
Only Fuente Is Fuente
Be nice! I am getting OLD but I am still IMPRESSIONABLE!!

[sigimage]


From:  The Master Authentic
Date:  05/19/05 1:48 PM

Scotty, it is one thing to have opinions, it is quite a different story when you are accusing the owners of this site of lying and being dishonest in their dealings. You know what I am talking about.


From:  studio253 Authentic
Date:  05/19/05 1:52 PM

Totally classless conduct...I didn't expect much from a guy who's always hounding married momen HE HE....

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From:  cf2112 Authentic
Date:  05/19/05 1:59 PM

I talked with the sales ladies and the manager and was told Opus & Anejo will always be available, not all sizes at every moment but always some on hand. The store will be well stocked until after the Grand Opening and then have a better than average stock.

I took this to mean 858sg, Hemi sg, and other rare stuff will run out from time to time. It is Casa Fuente so I expect it to always have a great selection though.

I normally wouldn't pay those prices but hey sometimes you just gotta say *^&% it. Plus a few Mojito's never hurt.

I don't know what the Hemi SG's sell for, but I've seen 858sg's sold here for close to what I paid. I will smoke or gift these, you won't see them for sale, and if you come to Mid-Missouri you'll get to try some.

I'm not a rich man if fact with 3 kids I'm like a lot of you, working hard, trying to do the right things for my family. When/if I go back I'll buy some other interesting stuff I don't see often or at all. I'd rather give it to Casa Fuente than gamble it away.

They say the mind is a terrible thing to waste-----------So I sold mine


From:  willjaym Authentic
Date:  05/19/05 2:01 PM

Yes Harris, but Scotty has a damn good point. I could never walk into my local store and buy a full box of Hemi SG Classic's, EVER. I would like to know, what gives with that? Thanks, Bill


From:  Scott From NY Authentic
Date:  05/19/05 2:03 PM

Thanks for the info CF2112, I actually hit a few Fuente shops last week and they all said the same thing, oh wait no they didn't -LOL

Hi Harris, are you still my honey bunch? I'll play nice from now on Master

Scott From NY
Only Fuente Is Fuente
Be nice! I am getting OLD but I am still IMPRESSIONABLE!!

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From:  barryh Authentic
Date:  05/19/05 2:03 PM

I believe that Scott is completely correct. I have been mostly reading this board for years and I have always noticed how incensed and adamant the company was about retailers selling at MSRP and limiting sales to keep people from hoarding and/or reselling at ridiculous prices. The theme was "cigars are about people" thats why cigars such as Opus were not allowed on the internet. Last time that I was there, not a whole lot of people lived on the strip, but it is an ideal place to make tons of money. The concept was to support the retailer, sit down enjoy a smoke and make a connection with somebody. Thats what cigars are supposed to be about. I have always thought that the first generation of these companies are the purist, the Fuente Sr's, Eiroa Sr... these are the men who's life's ambition was to make the perfect cigar. The second generation was left to become the pitchmen, handle the business of cigars and most of them have done a great job. We were also always lead to believe that the retailers were the backbone of the operation and it was them that would be supported and given respect for their faithfulness. I have always seen cigars as a business but had always hoped that perhaps I was wrong and that the hype was real. For me, It will be hard to listen to the hype anymore...

BarryH
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From:  baja Authentic
Date:  05/19/05 2:12 PM

Everything TS sells is at MSRP. They do not allow box sales only singles. When they did have some Hemi SG's about a year ago they were limited to 1 per just like Opus. Hemi are 2 per and Anejo are 4 per. I will say that they used to have WOAM in stock for a good year straight until recently they have been hit or miss. All I know is that I spend a very good chunk of change with them monthly and they will not even discuss selling me a box, so the amount of business or amount spent at TS means no special treatment by any means. It is yet to be seen if their stock starts to slow thin.


From:  The Master Authentic
Date:  05/19/05 2:16 PM

Barry,

Your quote " these are the men who's life's ambition was to make the perfect cigar.The second generation was left to become the pitchmen, handle the business of cigars and most of them have done a great job."

For you to insinuate that Carlito is only a pitchman is one of the most classless statements I have ever seen on this site.

Carlito cares more about the tobacco than anything else, who do you think made Opus? Everyone told him,even his father it couldn't be done. Carlito lives and breaths tobacco and you want to call him a pitchman.

Next time you want to insult someone get a clue.


From:  BarryH Authentic
Date:  05/19/05 2:25 PM

Master,

I think you missed the point. I have no problem w/ Carlito and I am sure he is passionate. The truth of the matter is that he is also a businessman who wants to sell cigars. I don't think that there is anything wrong with that. The problem I see is that the rules have changed, which I have no problem with either. I am a realist who knows this a business...thats all

BarryH
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From:  Fuente Authentic
Date:  05/19/05 2:51 PM

Harris,

People enjoy smoking Fuente, Ashton and J.C. Newman products. Sometimes they become passionate in their quest to secure those they enjoy most. I see nothing wrong about Scotts inquiries regarding distribution, he is just trying to find out the ground rules.

Remember several years ago when Bobby Newman owned a piece of an online cigar merchant and the ensuing uproar, I disagreed with his decision, but Bobby severed his relationship with that merchant.

I do agree with you that some in this thread have a lynch mob mentality, but don't paint a broad stroke that anyone who questions these new distribution channels is showing contempt for the owners of this site or their business partners. For some like Scott it is a fact finding mission.

Rich

Candidate for Governor of Georgia

Fuente
Just another cigar smoker

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From:  MistrTJ Authentic
Date:  05/19/05 3:14 PM

I say GOOD FOR CASA FUENTE and keep it up! As a matter of fact, I am officially offering them FREE RETAIL SPACE for a second store at a very prestigious private Country Club built by the very people that brought you the Forum Shops in the very prestigious community of western Boca Raton! FREE SPACE I tell you!

OK, so that space happens to be about the size of the Aristocrat Plus in my office, but it's free to anyone who wants me to market Hemi SG's, 858SG, Casa Fuente's, Anejo's and,,, oh yeah,,,, I'll move the Diamond Crowns and,,, how'd they put it,,, oh yeah,,,, the Cuestra Ray's (whatarethose?) for them.

Let me know,,,, I'll be here!


From:  Fuente Fan Authentic
Date:  05/19/05 3:21 PM

Now Tom is thinking!

 Fuente Fan


From:  SalamiRich
Date:  05/19/05 3:40 PM

I can see why some people could be upset. While I know I could sell these cigars, the bottom line as I understand it to be, the Fuente's proceeds will help the kids(CFCF) and THATS the most important fact.


From:  ronman Authentic
Date:  05/19/05 7:22 PM

The way I see it, if you are like me who has never even seen a Hemi SG or some form of unreleased Opus or only has smoked maybe two or three 858 SG in their entire life, I'd be willing to spend the cash if I was ever in Vegas to try some of these cigars for the first time. I do see Scott's point though and it's a valid one IMHO. And, if that really was salami Rich who posted above, then it's even better if a chunk of the proceeds do help the kids thru CFCF

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From:  PlayadelSoul Authentic
Date:  05/19/05 7:33 PM

I wish they would open a Casa Fuente here. I can't get a regular 858, let alone sungrown.

People should count their blessings for what is avaialble to them, and stop being so envious. If it means that much, move!


From:  capitalist Authentic
Date:  05/19/05 7:52 PM

A look at the finacial arrangemnet at the store may shed some light on all the motives... It is a business with charity ties...

Best Regards...

CAPITALIST
ECSBC

Son of the greatest dog rocket smoker in the USA.
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From:  CPT STOGIE Authentic
Date:  05/19/05 8:07 PM

Give it a rest. There are plenty of other business ventures that screw people over to make money and give none of it to charity.

The Fuentes do great work and the store sounds like a great business venture with proceeds going to people in need. Sheesh...your life must be pretty good if this all you have to bitch about.

"Like a herd of turtles stampeding through peanut butter, so go the days of our lives."


From:  Let's Face Facts
Date:  05/19/05 8:12 PM

If people are walking out the door at Casa Fuente with boxes of Fuente product at $600/box the writing is on the wall. They are going to have to keep this store stocked and I am not aware of any new Fuente factory that is going to keep up with demand. This is Vegas, 3X MSRP is not going to mean a thing. You have the high rollers, you have the good old boy's rich mans weekends trips. Bottom line is even at their prices with unlimited quantity they are going to have to pull product from everywhere to keep up. Looks like Fuente figured what the heck, if you have the money sell they what ever they want and as much of it. Charity or no charity it has the appearance of selling out.


From:  The Master Authentic
Date:  05/19/05 8:18 PM

Let's Face Facts aka Baja, you are a gutless puke. You want to take a shot at the Fuentes then do it with your real name.


From:  Gran Consul Authentic
Date:  05/19/05 8:30 PM

I guess my bitch/"fear" is that my local retialers will see this the way some here see this and figure why should they bother limiting sticks to give everyone a chance at a few and instead just blow them out to their "high rollers".

Not that some don't do that already, but most don't as they try to follow what we all have been told were the rules of MSRP and limits.

I ain’t leaving this party tonight ’til I see some naked babes dancin’ around drunk touchin’ each other


From:  Max Power Authentic
Date:  05/19/05 8:52 PM

I was thinking that someday that some of these cigars will become more available so stiffs like me can try these at a fairly reasonable price someday. I was wrong.

It's not that big a deal to me, as many here seem to put these cigars in holy grail status, which is pretty silly, but the bar is probably set. There are too many other great smokes to worry about it.


From:  N Authentic
Date:  05/19/05 9:38 PM

I'm just glad my box of 858 SG's is now worth $250. I also know a guy who now has five grand worth of Hemi SG's too. Maybe it's time to sell! LOL!

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Nick


From:  mneadle Authentic
Date:  05/19/05 9:48 PM

Remember, it's about the kids.

Us kids

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Mark


From:  alwayssmokin Authentic
Date:  05/19/05 10:12 PM

Good catch Harris.

Baja, looks like you just confirmed some previous concerns!

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From:  Fuente Authentic
Date:  05/20/05 8:30 AM

Remember several years ago when Bobby Newman owned a piece of an online cigar merchant and the ensuing uproar, I disagreed with his decision, but Bobby severed his relationship with that merchant.

Just to clarify the statement above...what I disagreed about was his decision to end that business relationship. Arturo Fuente and J C Newman are not non profit organizations they are in business to make money for their owners and or shareholders. The fact that they give us this website in which to play and have worked and expanded TXJagman' idea into CFCF are just bonuses for we customers and cigar smokers.

Their distribution decisions, product development, etc are their business. The world is bad inough with all levels of government intruding on the lives of individuals and businesses. Do we now want consumers to have a say in how private businesses run their companies by voice vote? I think not. If you have a problem with the practices of a particular business cast your vote at the cash register. Just don't whine about things particularly not using your real name or handle.

Rich

Fuente
Just another cigar smoker

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From:  Jonesy Authentic
Date:  05/20/05 9:02 AM

LMAO!!! Baja the butt kisser busted anon trashing the Fuentes, too funny!

GWB- We will forever be in his debt.


From:  Scott From NY Authentic
Date:  05/20/05 9:08 AM

Bagging Baja , nice work Harris. But be careful, next time he see's you he may start groping you and your pocket-LOL

Baja...pretty dam cowardly

Scott From NY
Only Fuente Is Fuente
Be nice! I am getting OLD but I am still IMPRESSIONABLE!!

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From:  GeoffM24 Authentic
Date:  05/20/05 9:25 AM

"If Casa Fuente never existed, do you think your shops would get more product? I don't think so."

Actually the answer is yes.

x cigars made / y number of shops = z number of cigars per shop

By increasing the number of "y" shops you decrease the number of "z" cigars per shop.

PS Any word if the 90th anniversary cigars are ready yet?

GeoffM24
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From:  The Master Authentic
Date:  05/20/05 9:33 AM

Geoff, that doesn't work. What if all the product is coming from Holts or Tampa Sweetheart?


From:  Fuente Fan Authentic
Date:  05/20/05 9:38 AM

Too true Jonesy.

 Fuente Fan


From:  GeoffM24 Authentic
Date:  05/20/05 10:03 AM

Whether the cigars come from one store or a thousand stores the bottom line is that everytime a new store gets Fuente products there will be less cigars for the remaining stores.

While it certainly may not be your local shop, it might be Holts, or the place you mail order from, or cause more people to buy locally because Holts didn't have any etc.

GeoffM24
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From:  Jonesy Authentic
Date:  05/20/05 10:26 AM

actually Geoff since they control the entire supply chain it is possible that the increase in shops would not lead to decreased supply at all as they can easily increase the supply at their discretion. it's all up to them.

GWB- We will forever be in his debt.


From:  TheMuskyDude Authentic
Date:  05/20/05 10:27 AM

LMAO @ Baja the #1 buttkisser getting busted. Not planning on getting anything from Carlitos pocket are you? bwahahahahaha

If you got a problem or issue at least be a man, instead of a man lover.

Nice catch Harris.

TheMuskyDude
Beware the poster child for dementia is amongst us.....


From:  TheMuskyDude Authentic
Date:  05/20/05 10:27 AM

TGIF!

Now where is that rope......

TheMuskyDude
Beware the poster child for dementia is amongst us.....


From:  MKitman Authentic
Date:  05/20/05 11:39 AM

Damn; I guess he's too mortified to answer...

AND SHOULD BE... anonymous puke...

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From:  Scott From NY Authentic
Date:  05/20/05 11:40 AM

either that Mike or he is fondling some male's pocket

Scott From NY
Only Fuente Is Fuente
Be nice! I am getting OLD but I am still IMPRESSIONABLE!!

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From:  Cigar Grubb Authentic
Date:  05/20/05 12:04 PM

So Geoff, if I understand your logic, if Casa Fuente was never opened, other stores would get more Opus and other rares....

Do you beleive the same to be true for the next new "Joe Cigar Store" that gets a Fuente account? Wouldn't that take supplies from older stores? How is that fair to new people trying to got in the business?

Brian...^


From:  hababa Authentic
Date:  05/20/05 12:09 PM

LMAO @ Baja the Douchebag!!!

Busted!, so I guess you'll be starting another "Look at all the money I just donated to CFCF" thread, huh?


[sigimage]
bigbunchadouchebags


From:  TheMuskyDude Authentic
Date:  05/20/05 12:11 PM

Try for 5 figures this time douchebag.....bwahahahahaha

TheMuskyDude
Beware the poster child for dementia is amongst us.....


From:  Ormazd Authentic
Date:  05/20/05 1:21 PM

I guess those "LOOK AT ME!" donations didn't guarantee a front row spot at the trough, after all. LMAO!

Demagogue: One who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots.
H.L. Mencken


From:  cb Authentic
Date:  05/20/05 1:48 PM

To clarify - Holts has at least a few opus sizes in stock everyday of the year since the shortage of a few years ago. They limit sales to 4 per day, they also get plenty of Anejo and Hemi maduro at fathers day and chrismas. I am in the store at least a few times a week and they have never had a single 858SG or Hemingway, let alone boxes.

 cb


From:  bam Authentic
Date:  05/20/05 1:55 PM

cb,

The 858SG went to Tampa Sweethearts. They weren't selling boxes that I'm aware of, though they would sell you singles if you bought other cigars.

BAM


From:  La Gloria Authentic
Date:  05/20/05 2:04 PM

Baja...You POS!! You did more ass kisssing at CFC 2004 than Lady Opus and that boggles the mind!!

BUSTED!! I love it!!



La Gloria
EIFPC/NEFPC
The truth is on your side Bubba!!


From:  Scott From NY Authentic
Date:  05/20/05 2:10 PM

Some one give Ron another shot of Pyrat I can feel a BLOWhani rant coming on

Scott From NY
Only Fuente Is Fuente
Be nice! I am getting OLD but I am still IMPRESSIONABLE!!

[sigimage]


From:  RichL Authentic
Date:  05/20/05 2:15 PM

It's funny how people are so two-faced all in the name of "free," "special" cigars. I'm sure Carlos knows that the ass kissing is all an act to get closer in the fold to get dibs on "the good stuff" when Rich Dolak opens up the leather bag.

Looks like Baja is another one.

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From:  La Gloria Authentic
Date:  05/20/05 2:20 PM

LOL @ Scott!!

Rich....For how many years have we seen what you are describing?...Here comes the black bag and here comes the ass kissers!!

Too damn funny!!



La Gloria
EIFPC/NEFPC
The truth is on your side Bubba!!


From:  Jonesy Authentic
Date:  05/20/05 2:22 PM

come on Ron....worse than Lady Opus???? that's a bit harsh isn't it? LOL!

GWB- We will forever be in his debt.


From:  La Gloria Authentic
Date:  05/20/05 2:26 PM

Ted.....I don't think so...hehe!!



La Gloria
EIFPC/NEFPC
The truth is on your side Bubba!!


From:  olivaintampa Authentic
Date:  05/20/05 3:24 PM

Ouch...

Our internet connection has been out all day here at the office, and when it comes back online this is what I read. SCANDAL!

I gotta tell ya, this makes my day!

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From:  Beerguy Authentic
Date:  05/20/05 3:28 PM

OOPS! Nice catch harris!

[sigimage]
Have Another? ;)


From:  GeoffM24 Authentic
Date:  05/20/05 3:40 PM

Numbers is numbers people! I'm not posting theories I'm posting cold hard numbers.

Teddy what you are forgetting is that any additional store changes the dynamics of supply. They would have been getting MORE cigars had the Vgas store never been opened, now they are only getting the same.

Example:

100 cigars / 100 stores = 1 cigar per store 100 cigars / 101 stores = .99 cigars per store

After an increase in production

200 cigars / 100 stores = 2 cigars per store 200 cigars / 101 stores = 1.98 cigars per store

In every case an existing store would get more cigars had the Vegas store not been opened.

Regardless of what the Fuentes do to production whether if be an increase or decrease in production each store will get less the more stores there are.

Bottom line is that mathmatically your store would get more cigars if the Vegas store were never opened.

GeoffM24
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From:  TheMuskyDude Authentic
Date:  05/20/05 3:41 PM

Like the friggin pied piper eh? BWAHAHAHAHAHA!

Chupas are ruining (or already have) this site!

TheMuskyDude
Beware the poster child for dementia is amongst us.....


From:  fuente2000 Authentic
Date:  05/20/05 3:59 PM

I just have to put in my .02 on this after reading this far.

I agree with Harris that Carlos Jr. is a tremendous humanitarian that has done a lot for the community but Scott's got a point. I live in south Florida and none of the shops down here have ever seen a SG Hemi or SG 858. Even Tampa Sweetheart's in west central Florida won't sell you even a single SG858 without a major box purchase and I don't believe they've ever had a SG Hemi, as per Darlene there at the shop has told me (she's great - love that Darlene).

I have been smoking Fuente cigars almost exclusively since I smoked my first cigar over 15 years ago and I've never seen or even smoked a SG Hemi (which by the way Hemi Sig's are my favorite smoke) or even seen a SG 858. This has been the main reason I have switched to smoking ISOM cigars. Would you believe that they are cheaper and easier (assuming you have a reputable source - which I do) to get than Opus X's, Anejo's, SG 858's, Rosado 858 or SG Hemi's.

This is truly sad because 80% of cigar smokers that smoke Fuente cigars will never ever see, let alone smoke any of the above mentioned cigars while only 20% actually will.

I would like to see the regular "Fuente Fan" cigar smokin Joe have a chance to try some of these special cigars. At least I know I would without having to travel half way across the country.

Free enterprise you gotta love it


From:  paragon Authentic
Date:  05/20/05 4:06 PM

"In every case an existing store would get more cigars had the Vegas store not been opened. "

Wrong.

Here's one counterexample which Harris hinted at above. Every store gets 1/3 of 1% of the opus except holt's gets 3%. Casa Fuente opens. Every store gets 1/3 of 1% of the opus except holt's gets 1% and casa fuente gets 2%.

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From:  szatzu Authentic
Date:  05/20/05 4:16 PM

The Casa Fuente should always be well stocked with Opus, Hemi SGs, AF13s, etc. Long live the West screw the East...and if you want to get AF13s Hemi Sgs, well you better get Kalt out of retirement...he single-handedly got Opus in Texas...Bwhahahahahhahahahhahahahahahhaha

The Archbishop of Protocol


From:  Jonesy Authentic
Date:  05/20/05 4:19 PM

LOL!

GWB- We will forever be in his debt.


From:  La Gloria Authentic
Date:  05/20/05 4:22 PM

Looks like szatzu has the bait in the water...hehe!!



La Gloria
EIFPC/NEFPC
The truth is on your side Bubba!!


From:  paragon Authentic
Date:  05/20/05 4:26 PM

cry cry cry...I bought the same number of opus boxes this quarter's shipment as I have all the previous ones.

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From:  Hotboy Authentic
Date:  05/20/05 4:32 PM

Baja must be really taking some time to compose an apology/excuse...



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From:  hababa Authentic
Date:  05/20/05 4:44 PM

No Dane, he's on the phone with his Accountant! LMAO!!


[sigimage]
bigbunchadouchebags


From:  hababa Authentic
Date:  05/20/05 4:44 PM

and a hundy?


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bigbunchadouchebags


From:  szatzu Authentic
Date:  05/20/05 4:46 PM

Another thing where were all you East Coast Opus smokers crying and bitching when west of the Mississippi was not getting Opus?

This is poetic justice...45 minutes by plane 4 hours by car.

Anyone have Scott-GTO's cell...I think I am going to need a fence to move all of this stuff. But then again all you East Coast guys can buy the stuff once Scott puts it up on Yahoo....bwhahahahahhahahahahahha

The Archbishop of Protocol


From:  JBG Authentic
Date:  05/20/05 4:48 PM

The shops w/ fuente accounts within my commute have always rationed the good stuff, and I've always been treated fairly by them. On occasion I've even received more than the posted limit due to repeat business. I've never seen 858SG or WOAMs there and never really expected to, yet I have had the joy of some of these thanks to the generousity of some of you wonderful guys. I see it as my reward for behaving myself here (for the most part), respecting the host, and not posting behind-the-back anon pot-shots. Hell, at this rate, if I keep up the good behavior, I may even get baja's share of the secret black goodie bag next year!

Watch, as I make this post magically disappear......

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From:  Mr Robusto Authentic
Date:  05/20/05 4:50 PM

Nah...he's lifting one out of someone else's pocket.....

"It has been my experience that folks who have no vices have very few virtues"--Abe Lincoln


From:  Hotboy Authentic
Date:  05/20/05 4:53 PM

LOL @ Szatzu poking the bear with a stick!



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From:  Max Power Authentic
Date:  05/20/05 4:59 PM

Go get em Garrick!

Baja, you're such a dipshit.


From:  ctjohnson Authentic
Date:  05/20/05 5:00 PM

Who doesn't know someone that will be going to Vegas soon. It is not like the store is on the moon. Give someone your damn money and write down what you want.


From:  paragon Authentic
Date:  05/20/05 5:01 PM

In fact I think you codknockers have it backwards.

Casa Fuente means more opus for you.

If Casa Fuente always has Opus at $30 a stick, there isn't a $100 a stick market for it anymore. vinnie scumbagliano won't pay your local dealer $800-1000 a box to sell it to the shop on the strip for $1250.

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From:  cohim Authentic
Date:  05/20/05 5:13 PM

Baja, explain yourself or all of CF bretheren will be wearing zippered top pockets from now on.

Yea, I come from the land of "Show your tits", and that aint no lie!!!


From:  JC Authentic
Date:  05/20/05 5:13 PM

CT give me your cash and if i double it i'll buy you a stick er two..............


From:  Hotboy Authentic
Date:  05/20/05 5:14 PM

Excellent point Paragon, although places like Napoleon's and other cigar shops in casinos will still Opus at $100 a stick because high rollers don't care and it's convenient...



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From:  mneadle Authentic
Date:  05/20/05 5:26 PM

I want baja to come back and play

[sigimage]
Mark


From:  Cigar Grubb Authentic
Date:  05/20/05 5:31 PM

cf2112 - See what you started!

I visited yesterday and gong back tomorrow, I like the lounge.

Brian...^


From:  TheMuskyDude Authentic
Date:  05/20/05 7:35 PM

LMAO @ Garrick

BTW - I could give a flying FU#$ what they sell there, I wouldn't buy opus by the box @ MSRP, and could care less about unreleased @ Vegas prices, so enjoy... LMAO!

TheMuskyDude
Beware the poster child for dementia is amongst us.....


From:  TheMuskyDude Authentic
Date:  05/20/05 7:35 PM

Ohhhh and BWAHAHAJA is a tool!

TheMuskyDude
Beware the poster child for dementia is amongst us.....


From:  cf2112 Authentic
Date:  05/20/05 7:39 PM

This is the only thread I ever started that hit 100 woo hoo.

Have a Mojito for me and send more smokes.

They say the mind is a terrible thing to waste-----------So I sold mine


From:  Cigar Grubb Authentic
Date:  05/20/05 7:41 PM

whatcha want?

Brian...^


From:  Yossarian
Date:  05/20/05 9:04 PM

I can mail order from Holt's. I can't from Casa Fuente.

I don't see how this argument that "Only Holt's would get more" in any way detracts from the perfectly valid points made by Scott.


From:  smokin'dobros Authentic
Date:  05/20/05 9:38 PM

I suppose I could think of something that concerns me less than who gets what cigars if I put forth the effort but I really can't be bothered. There are plenty of fine smokes available; if I can't find one I buy another. If you found the one I wanted in the first place, more power to you, smoke it in good health.

sd


From:  MistrTJ Authentic
Date:  05/20/05 9:57 PM

Fuente2000, sorry bud, there have been (and continue to be seasonally) 858 SG's and WOAM's and all kinds of Hemi Maddies and all kinds of OPUS and all kinds of good Fuente stuff in SoFla (and I think JD13 will back me up on this) because I've bought them and didn't have to go more than three stores from my dry cleaners to find them.

I think, and I could be wrong on this (tchyeahright), but even in our little slice of heaven, just like all over this big ol mean world, it's how important you are to your retailer/supplier that dictates how much of the "good stuff" you get a shot at.

Just like any high end, limited product, it ain't meant to be for everyone.


From:  studio253 Authentic
Date:  05/20/05 10:06 PM

still no Baja????

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From:  cohim Authentic
Date:  05/20/05 10:45 PM

Maybe he hung himself in a closet. (Poor bastard) I couldn't immagine being that juiced up over a little shit on his lips.

Yea, I come from the land of "Show your tits", and that aint no lie!!!


From:  psprince Authentic
Date:  05/20/05 10:47 PM

Shouldn't anyone who visits this site at least onces a month know that posting anon, Is not really anon? sheesh.

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From:  JL Miller Authentic
Date:  05/20/05 11:23 PM

...hey Scotty, since I luv ure round lil body soo much, Ill buy you whatever you want when Im out at the Casa on June 2nd during ther Gran Opening!!

lol.

[sigimage]JL Miller


From:  N Authentic
Date:  05/21/05 12:19 AM

"Just like any high end, limited product, it ain't meant to be for everyone."

I absolutely agree with this statement. It's like alcohol. Not everyone can afford to buy a $100 bottle of wine or scotch. It's meant for those who can though!

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Nick


From:  fuente2000 Authentic
Date:  05/21/05 3:49 AM

I'm sorry to tell ya Tom but you are sooooo wrong. Maybe in posh Boca Raton way you can walk two stores down from your dry cleaners (which I sincerely doubt) and find these cigars but I can tell down in Fort lauderdale and Miami there about as easy to find as chicken lips! As a matter of fact Bennington's in Boca calls me all the time when he gets new Fuente stock in and he has never gotten any SG 858's or SG Hemi's. Plenty of Ashton's Puro Sol's and such but none of these bad boys. Even Mike's in Bal Harbor has some Opus X's but never seen Anejo's or any premium sungrowns in that great shop and believe me I drop plenty of jack in those shops.

Don't know who you have naked pictures off but hang on to them because like I said in parts south of Palm Beach it's slim pickens at best.


From:  The Master Authentic
Date:  05/21/05 9:43 AM

fuente2000, I shop at the Benningtons here in Sarasota and they get everything. I'm sure Mikes and Benningtons get everything, but they don't tell you. You think you are one of their best customers but spending 200 every couple of months won't get you a WOA. LOL


From:  mneadle Authentic
Date:  05/21/05 10:30 AM

I get all my rare smokes from The Master. I watch his back on this site and in exchange he sends me rare Fuentes.

[sigimage]
Mark


From:  MistrTJ Authentic
Date:  05/21/05 11:32 AM

Fuente2000, I have no problem with you disagreeing with me, but to call me a liar really isn't necessary and I know you didn't mean it so, I accept your apology.

When I first started smoking cigars, I used to visit Bennington's as well (IMHO stuck-up employees with lousy attitudes, typical Boca). I was always offered all the Fuente green bands I wanted. Never ever was able to crack the "big-time" so I stopped shopping there. At the same time Corona Gorda (yes, he was liked back then) managed a cigar shop in the Town Center Mall and clued me in to how the "pecking order" works, and as Master said, my $200 every now and then didn't cut it. I'd get an occasional Don Carlos pair or even once an OPUS, but forgetabout "what I want, when I want it" with the budget I had.

Now, as for TODAY and your assumption that high-end Fuentes do not exist in SoFla, please don't tell me what I've been able to buy or not buy based on your experiences elsewhere. Can I "walk into" a particular shop and, as you put it, "find these cigars"? No,,,, No one can "find these cigars". But, for whatever reason; maybe it's the money I spend in there year-round or maybe the fact that I run one of "Posh" Boca Raton's best kept seceret golf courses and the retailer and I play two rounds a year together, but I have bought boxes of some of the high-end sticks you complain about from my man. And just because I might not have "SEEN" some of the sticks you mention above, doesn't mean that they weren't there. A good retailer spreads the joy around. He may know that I like (among other things) VSG's, OPUS, Anejo's, WOAM's, Maximus SG's,,, so I get the call when these come in. Another good customer might like the rest of the Hemi Maddies, Classic SG's, 858 SG's, you name it,,,, he might call that customer rather than me. That's fine with me.

Now, AT THE SAME TIME, I'M BUYING REALLY EASY TO FIND, BUT HARD TO MOVE STICKS from him because I beleive that the local guy needs help in moving product and I like mom & pops. I'm loaded with Sosa #2's, RyJ Reserva Real's, Punch Grand Puro robo's, Cuesta Ray's and the like because I gotta help him with the common stuff. No one can expect to be a "prefered customer" if all they ever come in for is whatever they can't have.

In a nutshell Alex,,,, head north young man!


From:  fuente2000 Authentic
Date:  05/21/05 12:12 PM

Tom, I never meant to imply you were a liar. You're a great guy and we've talked a few years back when I first came to CF. You were very helpful and sincere. All I meant to say was that it's not as easy as you put in your post. My job allows me the freedom to cover most of Monroe, Dade and Broward but unfortunately not Palm Beach. And throughout all that traveling I visit and purchase cigars from some key vendors (and it's more than a mere $200) but it seems these key sellers never get those type of cigars... maybe bad luck, maybe being at the right at the right time or maybe it's that I don't play golf with a cigar retailer that carries these. Regardless if you have a connection then that's very different situation and really doesn't have a bering here. If you had read my original post what I said was that the regular Joe that shops at the same varous shops doesn't get the opportuntiy to buy these.

Thanks for the young man compliment. Considering it's my b-day next month... ouch.


From:  MistrTJ Authentic
Date:  05/21/05 12:38 PM

1) you're vertical, you're young! (Boca's motto)

2) Ahhhhhh, the crux of the whole thread,,,, "the regular Joe" vs the blessed!

Whether it's cigars, wine, jets, yachts, beach houses or 5-star Hotels,,, some things are just meant to be for a select few. That's how legends are made. Limited production of a quality product with a high price tag made OPUS and VSG ER's what they are. It's what originally made Jaguar a sought after car. You pick your vacation spot,,, the Ritz or Coutyard by Marriott, both get the job done, but are they for everyone? Kendal Jackson Cabernet Sauvignon 2004 @ 13.50 or Château Lafite Rothschild Pauillac 2000 @ $400, both good reds, but really,,, is it worth it for the Pauillac? I happen to say yes, that's why I plan, limit and schedule my high-end experiences to maximize MY enjoyment. And what's available to me may not be available to the guy that works for me. Conversely, what the people I work for do on a daily basis, private jets to parties in their honor at Vegas hotels, yachting the Med, memberships at 5 or six clubs, dinner out seven nights a week, IS NOT FOR ME and I have to live with that. I'd love to have those things, but it ain't gonna happen and I can't get caught up in jealousy.

There are "Regular Joe" retailers as well that will never get the Casa Fuente inventory and there are "Regular Joe" Shoppers that, unless they're in Vegas at the Casa Fuente Store, will never get a shot at a "OPUS-MADDIE-SG-SOSA-FOOTBAL-BARBER-POLE" and even IF he's standing there in the Humidor of the store may not be able to score because his budget won't permit it.

Such is life.


From:  Max Power Authentic
Date:  05/21/05 4:08 PM

Fair point TJ, to a point.

Of course, the list you just typed has to do with people being able to live within their means. These are cigars, and most here can afford em, just not get to em, which is a pretty fundamental difference.


From:  RichL Authentic
Date:  05/21/05 4:29 PM

Someone snag me a couple of the Casa Fuentes please.

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From:  fuente2000 Authentic
Date:  05/21/05 4:47 PM

Well put Bob.

As you said,"These are cigars, and most here can afford em, just not get to em, which is a pretty fundamental difference.'

nuff said.


From:  La Gloria Authentic
Date:  05/21/05 4:47 PM

After my friend Rich is taken care of, someone snag me a couple as well....Please!!



La Gloria
EIFPC/NEFPC
The truth is on your side Bubba!!


From:  mneadle Authentic
Date:  05/21/05 5:27 PM

You can get all the stuff you want if you have enough ca$h, or can get to Casa Fuente in Vegas.

[sigimage]
Mark


From:  fuente2000 Authentic
Date:  05/21/05 5:33 PM

Hey Mark don't you live pretty close to Vegas (hint, hint).

How about a little roadtrip?? (LOL)


From:  robuster Authentic
Date:  05/21/05 6:52 PM

Congrats on your 100+ thread cf2112

If this was about a Casa Fuente store in a Atlantic City casino, would the east coasters be crying the same ol' song about their local shops??

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From:  baja Authentic
Date:  05/21/05 7:41 PM

Kiss my butt guy's. If I was going to place a post I would have put my name on it. You don't think that maybe I have some guest's over that may post their thought's from my home??? Hey it is a public board and I am not about to censor my friends opinions.

Hollan you got BIG balls to start rumoring that I was


From:  baja Authentic
Date:  05/21/05 7:46 PM

Hollan you have big balls to start a rumor that I was grouping his dads pocket at CFC. Yea buddy I have heard the crap you have been spreading. Like I would try to take a cigar from your dad...GET A LIFE!


From:  fuente2000 Authentic
Date:  05/21/05 7:57 PM

Master where do you get your news that I drop $200 every couple of months? It's more like $200+ every couple of weeks and who ever said I was one of their best customers. I'm looking at my original post and I don't mention either what I spend nor what they think of me.

Sometimes it's not what you spend but the relationships you build... you should know that, you've been around long enough. A newbie like me shouldn't have to tell you that (LOL)

Do you know for sure that Bennington's in Boca and Mike's gets these cigars. Don't think so based on my conversation with Oscar, the owner of Mike's. Please don't make assumptions, they only make you look foolish.

Master you know your a straight up guy and you defiately know your sh*t but don't try to belittle me.


From:  fuente2000 Authentic
Date:  05/21/05 7:59 PM

defiately = definitely

damn I can't type to save me life.


From:  lundens Authentic
Date:  05/21/05 8:02 PM

Wow! This thread is long.

Vegas is a whole different world. The Case Fuente store isn't about selling cigars. It is a marketing. The Fuente's produce some great cigars, and there is no reason that when someone wants to celebrate in Vegas that they should be able to have one of the best.

I would much rather see someone buying a 858 or Hemi SG as a celebratory cigar then a $50 don-hype cigar from some other manufacturer.

[sigimage]   Lundens
"Habit is habit, and not to be flung out of the window by any man, but coaxed downstairs one step at a time.-- Mark Twain


From:  baja Authentic
Date:  05/21/05 8:07 PM

BTW..if you want "MY" actual opinion I will give it to you. It is not that much off from my friends. I think that this store is going to take a lot of inventory. Where that is going to come from I can only speculate, but IMO it will take from all to keep up with demand. It also changes the rules that ALWAYS limited customers. If you have the money you can buy anything you want and as much as you want. If that does not piss a lot of you off, IMO you are FUS or are just afraid to voice your opinion. I could not really care and may do the same if the shoes were on different feet. IMO it also confirms the guy's on Yahoo who had not given a crap other than thier profit margin. Do I think it's a sell-out????? HHHmmmm.....I can't say no! It's definatley a slap in the face to the loyal's


From:  PrizePig Authentic
Date:  05/21/05 8:35 PM

Well, MistrTJ has once again shown himself to be a pompous poseur with an overinflated sense of his importance.

First off, NO country club in Boca Raton is worth two shits. "Posh" Boca Raton - LMFAO! If you and your POS country club fell off the face of the earth, no one would give a rat's ass. Don't kid yourself, buddy. You are another wannabe, playing in the minor leagues, and always will be. But keep jacking yourself up - it makes lot of great laughs for me (and I am sure plenty of others here).


From:  cf2112 Authentic
Date:  05/21/05 10:54 PM

No shop on the strip in Vegas could sell for MSRP (especially in the Forums)and I bet Casa Fuente sells for less than most if not all other shops in Vegas. I've never seen 858sg's locally but have bought many boxes from members here (all less than what I paid in Vegas ) Shops in Mid Missouri are about MSRP + 50% and I can buy boxes of what they get but usually don't. That is not far off from Vegas pricing.

Few people can get Opus, Anejo, WOAM, Hemi Mad & sg's at MSRP and fewer can get boxes at MSRP. To anyone that can great but for most it's not an option and we wait for an offer from a lucky member here or pay the extra. I've done both and will again hopefully, let's all remember they're just cigars made to be smoked and if I own them they will be.

Again anyone coming to Missouri LMK and we'll smoke whatever I have, hell I'll buy dinner and drinks too.

BTW and not that it matters, I only got 1 box of 858sg's (only charged for one)a slight mix up but I'm still happy to have been and will go back someday.

They say the mind is a terrible thing to waste-----------So I sold mine


From:  moki Authentic
Date:  05/21/05 11:00 PM

No shop on the strip in Vegas could sell for MSRP (especially in the Forums)and I bet Casa Fuente sells for less than most if not all other shops in Vegas.

They do. $60 per stick for Opus is the norm on the Strip.

vitolas.net -- rare cigar reference & more...


From:  TheMuskyDude Authentic
Date:  05/21/05 11:43 PM

It wasn't me someone else stole my ip addy or my computer.... LMAO

TheMuskyDude
Beware the poster child for dementia is amongst us.....


From:  PeteRI Authentic
Date:  05/22/05 8:49 AM

I will gladly pay you on Tuesday for a Casa Fuente cigar today.

PS: Nice try, Baja. But you have to realize you're dealing with pros here...as my dad used to say: You can't bullshit a bullshitter.

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Write if you get work
Hang by your thumbs
The Great Bob & Ray


From:  mneadle Authentic
Date:  05/22/05 9:51 AM

I told you guys it was just Baja's friend, and NOT him. Now that he's confirmed it, do you believe me (us) now?

[sigimage]
Mark


From:  olivaintampa Authentic
Date:  05/22/05 11:02 AM

LMAO!

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From:  hoffman Authentic
Date:  05/22/05 11:04 AM

baja that is the weakest ass response I've seen since another pariah used it long ago.

Your rep is well known on this board.

hoffman


From:  The Master Authentic
Date:  05/22/05 11:24 AM

fuente2000,if you noticed I out an lol at the end of my post. I was just busting your balls,I have no idea what you do or don't spend, and could care less.

baja, please stop with the dog ate my homework routine.


From:  MistrTJ Authentic
Date:  05/22/05 11:46 AM

Well, I see my little rebuttal to the scumbagpig got lifted, so let's leave it at; now I see why everyone thinks you're an a$$hole.


From:  olivaintampa Authentic
Date:  05/22/05 11:51 AM

I especially take issue with Baja's quote in two particular areas:

"Do I think it's a sell-out????? HHHmmmm.....I can't say no!"

AGAIN, the Fuentes' interest in this store is being used to contribute to the charity. If you take exception to this as it is concerning Casa Fuente, then you must also be equally pissed about the large sums of money that the cigars bring on auctions, etc. Remember that next time you want to "soap box" about the availability and cost of cigars.

SECONDLY: "....IMO you are FUS or are just afraid to voice your opinion."

Sounds like you are describing yourself there. I can see no other reason that you decided to post your jab anonymously. And before you tell us all that you DID post your opinion, remember it was done only after Harris called you on it. And THEN, it took you exactly 48 hours to do so.

This is very weak. The sooner you realize that no one owes you anything, the better off you will be.

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From:  AmbassadorP Authentic
Date:  05/22/05 12:13 PM

Baja said: "Kiss my butt guy's. If I was going to place a post I would have put my name on it. You don't think that maybe I have some guest's over that may post their thought's from my home??? Hey it is a public board and I am not about to censor my friends opinions."

Shish, is that a friend cover up, what's it's name?....yeah it's name lol...

Since when home computers are for public use??? if someone uses my computer for anon attacks to Fuente, you better believe, I will shoot the friggin chupacabra!

No eXcuse.....

Maduro...,Naturally. Protected by Chupa Firewall


From:  smokin'dobros Authentic
Date:  05/22/05 12:49 PM

This is some funny shit, I give this thread 5 smileys!

sd


From:  MKitman Authentic
Date:  05/22/05 12:56 PM

Yoda say's- "Baja my friend he is; though integrity none he has. The Dark Side it must have been that made 'his guest' anonomously post; yes, it was..."

And if Yoda say's so, it must be true, no?

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From:  Max Power Authentic
Date:  05/22/05 1:42 PM

Baja, you just can't seem from stepping in it, can you?

While I understand there is an implied connection that it is for the kids (I have seen no confirmation), and that is a noble cause, there are plenty of ways to give to the kids without throwing a major curveball into your distribution network.

I figure the product and prices are necessary to break even in that mall. That is some of the most expensive retail space in the country, and I imagine that selling green bands at MSRP wouldn't keep that store open very long.


From:  The Collector Authentic
Date:  05/22/05 1:58 PM

It took 2 days to come up with the dog ate my homework routine? Hope ya didn’t deplete too many brain cells coming up with THAT ingenious defense .. Perry Mason. There’s no better .. and more entertaining way to achieve instant pariah status. LOL

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From:  mark4032 Authentic
Date:  05/22/05 2:02 PM

I know I haven't been here as long as most but I just don't get what everyone is so upset about. First of all, the fuentes are running a business and like any other business they are trying to make money. When you guys get past the line that you've been sold about this manufacturer treating you like family and realize it is really just a fantastic marketing scheme, you'll be much better off.


From:  half fast smoker Authentic
Date:  05/22/05 2:08 PM

slightly off topic now I guess, how much for de Footballs?


From:  ronman Authentic
Date:  05/22/05 2:09 PM

Those are wise words, mkitman

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From:  AmbassadorP Authentic
Date:  05/22/05 2:28 PM

Mark...since when .... Bashing is a fantastic marketing?

Maduro...,Naturally. Protected by Chupa Firewall


From:  moki Authentic
Date:  05/22/05 2:41 PM

When you guys get past the line that you've been sold about this manufacturer treating you like family and realize it is really just a fantastic marketing scheme, you'll be much better off.

I don't know... I'm not a Pollyanna type by nature, but it my impression is this. I think Fuente is a very successful company, and I believe they'd be successful with or without Cigar Family Charitable Foundation. I think they'd be a successful company with or without the CFC events.

In order to be able to do the things they do year after year, it seems to me it has to be somewhat genuine. It seems to me that once you are a success in whatever your area of business is, a certain type of person tries to find other ways to enjoy that success, and to give back.

Do I think it's 100% altruistic? No; nothing is. But I don't think it's done out of avarice either. Aw hell, maybe I have turned into a Pollyanna... all I know is I have enjoyed this web site and the people I've met here more than anywhere else, by far. There's something to it.

vitolas.net -- rare cigar reference & more...


From:  Bond Authentic
Date:  05/22/05 2:49 PM

John makes the point I was about to; When you bid $100 on a FFOX BBMF in a charitable auction, where do you think that cigar comes from? How many auctions do we host here annually? How many herfs have you been to where they have auctions? Have you ever heard of the Fuente's or Newman's having donated to any of these? What inventory do all of the cigars come out of? Because I, for one, have never heard any complaints about the price of auction cigars or a concern that they will reduce ones local supply. Why? Because "its for the kid's".....REMEMBER??

Everyone keeps saying its a business....well yes it is a business, just not Carlito's. His interest in Casa Fuente is in its ability to generate aditional $ for CFCF.....OUR charity. Does he sell his cigars there? Yes. Would he sell those cigars anyway and make the same money if there was no Casa Fuente? YES. Will CFCF generate more money this year as a result of Casa Fuente? YES!!!!

If you still dont get it.....then there's obviously nothing else I can say, because that about as clear as it gets. And as far as Baja goes.....BURN THE WITCH!!!!

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From:  AmbassadorP Authentic
Date:  05/22/05 2:53 PM

Well said Moki. Just to mention that this venture is a business run by others, not a required business, but still demand secondary efforts. Also, for any continued success, still, a great product with constant high quality must be produced. The charity work takes time and most likely detracts from other management functions. So guess what, it is real!!!.

Maduro...,Naturally. Protected by Chupa Firewall


From:  scottcenfla Authentic
Date:  05/22/05 3:26 PM

When a store opens, any new store, there is usually some kind of promotion that tends to create a customer base. It has yet to be seen as to what this particular store will provide to it's customers in the near future.

I have faith that the Fuente/Newman families will continue to provide their finest products across the board in the marketplace. At the least, as they have done in the past.

I won't comment on Baja, last time I did the entire thread got yanked.

[sigimage]Me new Scottish lady REALLY gots me dancin' E-Mail


From:  mark4032 Authentic
Date:  05/22/05 6:13 PM

Moki, perhaps you misunderstood me. I am not suggesting in the least that the members of this board don't treat one another like a family, they absolutely do. What I am suggesting is that the fuentes operate a business and this board and the functions are all part of that business. They do not do all of this to share with their family, they do it as part of running their business the same way as my firm hosting golf outings and other events. It is unique that a manufacturer/retailer would do these things as they are usually reserved for the service industries. However, make no mistake about it, all it is is marketing.


From:  moki Authentic
Date:  05/22/05 6:15 PM

Mark... nope... that's what I understood you to be saying

vitolas.net -- rare cigar reference & more...


From:  mark4032 Authentic
Date:  05/22/05 6:34 PM

LOL - good.


From:  mneadle Authentic
Date:  05/22/05 6:53 PM

Guys, what's the matter with you all?

He didn't say "the dog ate my homework".

He said "my friend did that post".

BIG difference!!

[sigimage]
Mark


From:  TeeTee
Date:  05/22/05 7:32 PM

My opinion is that many on this board have jumped all over cigar shops that have sold hard to get Fuente's for inflated prices. Yet these same people give the Fuente's a free pass for doing the same thing. You can rationalize this by stating that their overhead is much higher but, in my opinion, this is a weak argument.

That said, if this is truly going towards charity, I retract my statement.

Tim


From:  paragon Authentic
Date:  05/22/05 8:45 PM

TeeTee... read this and don't reply until you bother to register. Casa Fuente is allowing CFCF to benefit from a market in which opus (and other rare fuentes) bring 5-10 times MSRP, and doing so by pricing them at 2-3 times MSRP. It's not going to your local shop and taking cigars away that you otherwise could have bought. I suggestyou go sign up for an economics course at your local community college. No one, anywhere, is forced to buy anything. All shops should price their cigars to maximize profit...and MOST realize that the additional couple hundred bucks per on 50ish hard to find fuente boxes a year can't replace the customer base they would lose if they chose to sell them this way.

Lastly your final statement is so idiotic, that I suggest you just shut your piehole. If they are doing something wrong, then the ends do not justify the means.

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From:  PrizePig Authentic
Date:  05/22/05 9:29 PM

paragon,

No registration has EVER been required to post in the FCR. The question has been raised here before and Carlito himself has posted here that there should be a room where folks are not required to register to post.

But I always love it when some arrogant prick like you spouts off and tries to make up rules that are directly contrary to the express wishes of our hosts. Do you go into someone's house as a dinner guest and then try to tell the other guests what they are allowed to eat or drink? Classy!


From:  barryh Authentic
Date:  05/22/05 10:00 PM

Paragon,

I have taken a few economics courses and it seems to me that when the Manufacturer sells cigars even at 2-3 times Manufacturer Suggested Retail Price (MSRP), Then you have a NEW MSRP....

BarryH
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From:  JBG Authentic
Date:  05/22/05 10:17 PM

...if you want "MY" actual opinion I will give it to you. It is not that much off from my friends

ROSES ARE RED, VIOLETS ARE BLUE
I'M SCHIZOPHRENIC............AND SO I'M I!!!

Watch, as I make this post magically disappear......

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Bad Trader & Scumbag List


From:  jefe Authentic
Date:  05/22/05 10:20 PM

Rich L, gotcha covered bro.

Jefe
FPC MINISTER OF LIVIN LARGE


From:  paragon Authentic
Date:  05/22/05 10:32 PM

"But I always love it when some arrogant prick like you spouts off"

Pots and kettles...you can talk about whatever you want you big jackoff. I would take advice about class from you right after i took advice from Wynnefield on making friends.

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From:  paragon Authentic
Date:  05/22/05 10:45 PM

barry...good thing the manufacturer isn't selling the cigars,and try to remember the parts of economics concerning comparative advantage, marginal utility and supply curve shifts.

[sigimage]


From:  scottcenfla Authentic
Date:  05/22/05 10:52 PM

You guys that are spouting off with the "advanced economics" stuff, just hold your britches for a bit. Nothing is as bad as it seems as Mr. Murphy explained at some point. No need to jump to fast and make "assumptions" seem real.

Did you forget that the kids are involved in this?

[sigimage]Me new Scottish lady REALLY gots me dancin' E-Mail


From:  Max Power Authentic
Date:  05/23/05 7:30 AM

paragon....SHUT UP...LOL!

You sound like a bad Mastercard ad.


From:  TeeTee
Date:  05/23/05 8:41 AM

Paragon, 1st) Don’t get your shorts in a knot about me electing not to register. If it is so important to you, do not read any further.

2ndI agree that the market can bring more than MSRP and people are very willing to pay the inflated price. Where did I state differently? When the manufacturer has taken a hard line stance with the retailers to keep cigars at MSRP, the Fuente’s position within the market has been established and defended by many as being honorable. Many on this board want to “out the bastards” when informing the board of price gouging.

3rd) Do not patronize me by suggesting higher education. I will be more than happy to compare resumes. Please disregard the “C” I received in HR, though. I hated that class.

4th) No where in my statement did I remotely suggest that people are being forced to purchase a cigar. This is a retail establishment that is selling way more than 50 boxes annually. Do not minimize this fact to support your argument. My argument has nothing to do with economics.

5th) For a pompous bag of wind, you got me on that one…except shutting the piehole part. I had a bottle of wine in me and was trying to score with the little lady. I was trying to be agreeable to all of her comments and it must have spilled over to my post. Thanks for catching that and I look forward to you keeping me on my toes in future posts. Please don’t try to interject irrelevant economics topics, though.

6th) Your reply does not even address my statement. Again, my point of view is that many on this board have jumped on retailers with both feet when selling cigars for inflated prices. What I am now seeing is a bunch of apologists.

Tim


From:  mneadle Authentic
Date:  05/23/05 9:15 AM

It's OK that they are charging crazy prices because the money is going to charity silly people!

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Mark


From:  wansingct Authentic
Date:  05/23/05 9:29 AM

I'd just like to say that I don't know anyone that is planning to go to Vegas. I know a couple of people that have been in the past, but that's about it. I'm sorry, but for the "average guy", Vegas just isn't a "couple times a year" type of thing. But then again, neither is membership at a country club.

"Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work." - Thomas Edison


From:  PrizePig Authentic
Date:  05/23/05 9:34 AM

paragon,

You can call me whatever you want. However, it does not change the fact that you not only owe an apology to TeeTee, but you also you owe an apology to the hosts of this site for not respecting their rules.


From:  Fuente Fan Authentic
Date:  05/23/05 9:34 AM

Hey, let's not get off topic here! We need to help baja get that homework turned it.

What an @$$. LMAO

 Fuente Fan


From:  Jonesy Authentic
Date:  05/23/05 10:13 AM

"You don't think that maybe I have some guest's over that may post their thought's from my home??? Hey it is a public board and I am not about to censor my friends opinions."

LMAO! although calling Hollan out is fuuny too, not sure which is lamer. what a douche!

GWB- We will forever be in his debt.


From:  paragon Authentic
Date:  05/23/05 10:40 AM

You complain that I don't address your statement. Here it is:

"My opinion is that many on this board have jumped all over cigar shops that have sold hard to get Fuente's for inflated prices."

Either that is a fact or it's not. Either way it is not your opinion.

"Yet these same people give the Fuente's a free pass for doing the same thing."

WHO? which people? "out the bastards". Name me 5.

"You can rationalize this by stating that their overhead is much higher but, in my opinion, this is a weak argument."

really? how much is their overhead? did you look over the business plan? or are you talking out of your ass?

"That said, if this is truly going towards charity, I retract my statement. "

So are you now giving the fuente's (who don't even own the shop) the same free pass you were complaining about?

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From:  moki Authentic
Date:  05/23/05 10:53 AM

Fuente Fan, the Baja stuff is over here now, I think.

vitolas.net -- rare cigar reference & more...


From:  mrouz Authentic
Date:  05/23/05 11:04 AM

Hmmm... I didn't even know they opened a store in Las VEgas... nice advertising here guys!! WooHoo!! I think I'll fly out and pick up a few cigars.....

E-Mail


From:  Cigar Grubb Authentic
Date:  05/23/05 11:40 AM

Whoever makes the 200th post will get a Casa Fuente from me!

Brian...^


From:  Jonesy Authentic
Date:  05/23/05 11:53 AM

post

GWB- We will forever be in his debt.


From:  Jonesy Authentic
Date:  05/23/05 11:53 AM

shameless

GWB- We will forever be in his debt.


From:  Jonesy Authentic
Date:  05/23/05 11:54 AM

mooch

GWB- We will forever be in his debt.


From:  Jonesy Authentic
Date:  05/23/05 11:54 AM

attempt

GWB- We will forever be in his debt.


From:  Jonesy Authentic
Date:  05/23/05 11:54 AM

for

GWB- We will forever be in his debt.


From:  Jonesy Authentic
Date:  05/23/05 11:54 AM

cigar grubbs

GWB- We will forever be in his debt.


From:  Jonesy Authentic
Date:  05/23/05 11:54 AM

generosity

GWB- We will forever be in his debt.


From:  Jonesy Authentic
Date:  05/23/05 11:55 AM

here

GWB- We will forever be in his debt.


From:  Jonesy Authentic
Date:  05/23/05 11:55 AM

that was 200

GWB- We will forever be in his debt.


From:  Cigar Grubb Authentic
Date:  05/23/05 11:55 AM

lol..... Send me your addy!

Brian...^


From:  Crazy Horse Authentic
Date:  05/23/05 12:56 PM

This thread is quickly becoming a Classic.

Scott


From:  Max Power Authentic
Date:  05/23/05 1:37 PM

Ass!


From:  TeeTee
Date:  05/23/05 1:42 PM

You complain that I don't address your statement. Here it is:

"My opinion is that many on this board have jumped all over cigar shops that have sold hard to get Fuente's for inflated prices." Either that is a fact or it's not. Either way it is not your opinion.

TT: You got me on a poorly constructed sentence. I was setting up the reasoning for my opinion and the sentence became muddy. Mea culpa.

"Yet these same people give the Fuente's a free pass for doing the same thing." WHO? which people? "out the bastards". Name me 5.

TT: I guess while you were busy teaching economics, you did not read any of the gouge threads over the years.

"You can rationalize this by stating that their overhead is much higher but, in my opinion, this is a weak argument." really? how much is their overhead? did you look over the business plan? or are you talking out of your ass?

TT: Prior threads stated the higher costs of doing business in Vegas could be a factor in the pricing. Maybe you missed this.

"That said, if this is truly going towards charity, I retract my statement. " So are you now giving the fuente's (who don't even own the shop) the same free pass you were complaining about?

TT: Going back to that again, are you? I addressed that in #5 above. Please don’t make me grovel.

Listen, you can parse my comments all you want. From what I have read on these boards, there has been a history of the Fuente’s protecting their products from gouging retailers. Being involved in this Vegas venture seems to be inconsistent with past practice, in my opinion. I understand that you are passionate about this. All that I am doing is including my opinion as well. Maybe not as eloquent as you where I tell you to shut your piehole, or pulling something from your ass, but it is my opinion nonetheless and I stick by it. You can agree or disagree. Actually, I think I know where you stand.

Tim


From:  RichL Authentic
Date:  05/23/05 1:42 PM

Clown

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From:  Fuente Fan Authentic
Date:  05/23/05 3:07 PM

I hate Jonesy

 Fuente Fan


From:  PrizePig
Date:  05/23/05 3:40 PM

Posse.


From:  mneadle Authentic
Date:  05/23/05 4:22 PM

I love Jonesy.

[sigimage]
Mark


From:  Hotboy Authentic
Date:  05/23/05 4:54 PM

Tastes like ass.



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From:  studio253 Authentic
Date:  05/23/05 6:13 PM

real nice Jonesy

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From:  hoffman Authentic
Date:  05/23/05 10:48 PM

LMAO!

hoffman


From:  Cigar Grubb Authentic
Date:  05/24/05 11:45 AM

Should I do one for the 300th post just to keep this thread alive?...lol. See which one of ya guys has more time on your hands.... nah.....

Brian...^


From:  CigarFish Authentic
Date:  05/24/05 12:11 PM

The Casa Fuente will only help retailers across the country by giving exposure to the brand and contributing to the Fuente image.

The idea that this store will sell so much Fuente Product, or Opus, that it dilutes anybody else's sales around the country is absurd.

The store is beautiful and the staff is very courteous and helpful. I look forward to a visit to Casa Fuente on subsequent Vegas trips.

Some jealousy is probably predictable, it is human nature, although it is not based on any real threat.

It might be helpful if the store's staff exercised some humility in regard to their extravagant inventory and selection of cigars when talking with customers. Not doing so exacerbates the jealousy and doesn't contribute to the customer's satisfaction.

E- Mail

Good things come to those that wade.

CigarFish


From:  jancascade Authentic
Date:  05/24/05 1:26 PM

A product no selling for MSRP in Las Vegas. Imagine that! lol

I want to see the store are there any pictures posted anywhere?

jancascade
Peace is not a season
but a state of mind


From:  caddye Authentic
Date:  05/24/05 2:19 PM

I would question that no dilution to retailers, especially regarding the 858 sungrowns. Everyone sold out of the store already and in the future are ones that were witheld from retailers. Don't get me wrong, I don't have a problem with it since I am one of those that gets to pay that price for them anyway if I can get them. So its better for me, but not retailers.

Caddye


From:  CigarFish Authentic
Date:  05/24/05 3:07 PM

I should have said: no meaningful dilution.

The 5000 retailers in this country that don't get any 858's anyway are not affected at all.

The 1% of retailers that do receive 858SG's MIGHT receive one box less per year. Of the thousands of boxes of cigars sold by a large retail cigar store, the loss of one box won't be noticed.

It must be easy enough for Fuente to just make additional 858SG's, rather than reduce the supply to its retailers. Remember, this is not a regular production product by choice, not due to any limitation of raw materials.

E- Mail

Good things come to those that wade.

CigarFish


From:  CigarFish Authentic
Date:  05/24/05 3:09 PM

Should have said:

The 5000 retailers in this country that don't get ant 858SG's are not affected.

E- Mail

Good things come to those that wade.

CigarFish


From:  Fuente Fan Authentic
Date:  05/25/05 8:51 AM

Not sure I agree fish. When your retailer gets 1 box of 858 SG a year, the loss of 1 box is greatly noticed.

 Fuente Fan


From:  Ormazd Authentic
Date:  05/25/05 12:03 PM

"I am not a crook."
Richard Nixon

"I did not have sex with that woman."
Bill Clinton

"If I was going to place a post I would have put my name on it. You don't think that maybe I have some guest's over that may post their thought's from my home???"
Baja

Demagogue: One who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots.
H.L. Mencken


From:  MKitman Authentic
Date:  05/25/05 12:42 PM

Three of a kind...

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From:  moki Authentic
Date:  05/25/05 12:47 PM

Beats two pair!

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From:  tpntp Authentic
Date:  05/25/05 12:55 PM

It's obvious baja is missing a "pair"


From:  hababa Authentic
Date:  05/25/05 5:02 PM

Fuente markets the Opus as well as a few others as rare cigars that only come around a handful of times each year.

If they're always available in Las Vegas, in seemingly unlimited quantities, it kind of takes away from the rare angle.


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bigbunchadouchebags


From:  dougly Authentic
Date:  05/25/05 11:44 PM

But in order to obtain them in LV, you have to be there, or have a good, Stinky friend pay for them. I tried to have a friend pick some up for me, but unless I was to have my pal pay for them, they would not even accept pre-payment from me.

The sea was angry that day, my friends. Like an old man trying to send soup back at a deli.


From:  Stinky Authentic
Date:  05/26/05 6:27 PM

Glad to help. My service fee is one cigar because . . . I'm Stinky!

[sigimage] Promoting the Enjoyment of Fine Cigars . . . I'm Stinky!


From:  ronman Authentic
Date:  05/26/05 7:26 PM

Hey

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From:  ronman Authentic
Date:  05/26/05 7:26 PM

get

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From:  ronman Authentic
Date:  05/26/05 7:27 PM

over

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From:  ronman Authentic
Date:  05/26/05 7:27 PM

it

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From:  ronman Authentic
Date:  05/26/05 7:27 PM

people!

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From:  ronman Authentic
Date:  05/26/05 7:28 PM

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From:  Scott From NY Authentic
Date:  05/27/05 10:17 AM

Go steal some cheetos

Scott From NY
Only Fuente Is Fuente
Be nice! I am getting OLD but I am still IMPRESSIONABLE!!

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From:  johnd13 Authentic
Date:  06/02/05 1:53 PM

wow


From:  Fuente Authentic
Date:  06/02/05 2:23 PM

To repeat myself from another thread:

Reality Check!!!

1. CFer's are not the only customers that purchase Fuente cigar's.

2. CFer's smoke other brands as well, you don't hear the Fuente's and Newman's complaining when the Unlawful Cigars, Padrons, Chisles, etc are extolled on their website.

3. Let's stop being spoiled because we can't get the "rare" stuff anytime we want at MSRP.

4. If I don't have a checkerboard baseball bat golf club hockystick pigtail opus with a special name...gee I just might have to smoke a Centro Fino, Fuente green label, or some other quality cigar.

Rich

Fuente
Just another cigar smoker

Email


From:  paragon Authentic
Date:  06/02/05 2:41 PM

cigars are for smoking?

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From:  Cigar Grubb Authentic
Date:  06/02/05 2:50 PM

Preach!!

Brian...^


From:  cf2112 Authentic
Date:  06/05/05 10:29 PM

Only 60 more to 3 hundy

They say the mind is a terrible thing to waste-----------So I sold mine


From:  N Authentic
Date:  06/06/05 2:06 PM

Did Casa have any Hemingway maduros in stock?

If so, how many beans was a box of Hemi Sig maduros and a box of WOA maduros?

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Nick


From:  Cigar Grubb Authentic
Date:  06/06/05 2:13 PM

yes... SSS



BTW the grand opening was alot of fun!

Brian...^


From:  dunnie218 Authentic
Date:  06/06/05 2:25 PM

Made my first pilgramage to Casa Fuente last week in Vegas. WOW! Got to meet Carlos and chatted for a while. The service and selection was second to none. Highly recommended!!


From:  Mister Mike Authentic
Date:  06/17/05 4:35 AM

Since I read it all, I'm topping it! This way you don't need to find the thread via a link in another thread!

CFC I-VI, VIII
NEFPC HOAH I, II, III & IV (TFTM)!
ALTB Herf I, II & III
Cinco de Mayo Herf II & III
Hartford Herf II
MAFPC Herf @ Frank's 1/01
NYC Dinner w/Carlito 11/03
Many HAM's & PHUC's


From:  js4tda Authentic
Date:  06/29/05 3:11 PM

Finally got to Casa Fuente last week, the place is really nicely built and designed. The service there was excellent our waitress was Gina the infamous Fuente girl in th epictures posted here. Our salesperson was very informative with the questions we asked, her picth is a little on the hard side but to be admired (I'm in the sales bussiness also. I was in vegas for a week and visited the shop a total of three times. Its great for me being in Hawaii not seeing all the unreleased stuff, being able to see them on the shelf there. Here is how our shopping spree went; 2 boxes of Hemi SG, 10 boxes of 858 SG, Xikar rosewood Casa Fuente cutter, 3 Casa Fuente shirts and our americano extra shot in the mornings (almost got the panama hat).


From:  Max Power Authentic
Date:  06/29/05 3:44 PM

Jesus Christ I have cars worth less than that.


From:  Burley Authentic
Date:  07/05/05 12:10 PM

My 2 cars and my truck total aren't worth that much.

"Lover of broads and broad leaf"[sigimage]


From:  Needagoodcigar Authentic
Date:  07/06/05 3:02 AM

249

"Happiness? A good meal, a good cigar, and a good woman - or a bad woman; it depends on how much happiness you can handle."-George Burns


From:  Needagoodcigar Authentic
Date:  07/06/05 3:03 AM

250 what do win? lol

"Happiness? A good meal, a good cigar, and a good woman - or a bad woman; it depends on how much happiness you can handle."-George Burns


From:  Cigar Grubb Authentic
Date:  07/06/05 11:37 AM

nothin'

Brian...^


From:  Needagoodcigar Authentic
Date:  07/06/05 2:32 PM

Seriously I think the Fuente family is working for a good cause a business yes with charitable ties yes and lastly giving all of us a place to discuss and learn about the wonderful world of cigars. For the most part I see no reason to question their motives. In the end isn't it their decission who gets what. If they make decide to send more of their product to a shop that contributes to said charity more power to them. Thank You all for your time. Look check mark beside my name im registerd lol

"Happiness? A good meal, a good cigar, and a good woman - or a bad woman; it depends on how much happiness you can handle."-George Burns


From:  sm0kinmama Authentic
Date:  07/06/05 7:38 PM

Are there no Cuesta-Reys in the shop?

SmÕkinmama


From:  Cigar grubb Authentic
Date:  07/06/05 7:39 PM

Yes, there are Cuesta-Reys in there...

stopping in there tonight after work!

Brian...^


From:  Cigar grubb Authentic
Date:  07/06/05 7:48 PM

Ok ok,.. I wasn't gonna do it but it will. Who ever posts the 300th post, WITH OUT POSTING MORE THAN 3 TIMES between my current post (starting this contest) and #300, will get a Casa Fuente from me.... Have fun

Brian...^


From:  Kona peaberry Authentic
Date:  07/06/05 8:19 PM

Do they still have boxes Classic SG and 858 SG.


From:  Cigar Grubb Authentic
Date:  07/07/05 11:40 AM

Don't know about classic but i am sure they do, they do have Cuban Beli sg, there are no 858sg, sold out for now.

Brian...^


From:  EzDad Authentic
Date:  07/07/05 2:06 PM

I can't believe I endured reading this whole thread. What amaze me even more are all the whiney-ass-babies that cannot see the entire picture. The CFCF is going to need a steady cash flow to supplement all the auctions, fundraiser dinners, and retailers’ events from the CF members to pay for operating the Cigar Family Community Complex in Caribe. All of us should be very proud of the fact that this cigar community had a big hand in the financial accomplishment of that dream and we should be equally as proud of the Fuentes/Newmans in opening Casa Fuente to help keep the Cigar Family Community Complex in working order and keeping the dream alive.

EzDad

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From:  DarthSimon Authentic
Date:  07/08/05 2:27 PM

Power Rangers are almost $40.00 a cigar... Little high no??

E-Mail The Sith
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From:  GUSTO Authentic
Date:  07/09/05 10:49 PM

My parents were just in Las Vegas and I completely forgot to ask my father to pick me up some goodies - doh!

" I am sure there are many things better than a good cigar, but I can't think of what they might be"
R.Carleton

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From:  EzDad Authentic
Date:  07/09/05 11:15 PM

Power Rangers are almost $40.00 a cigar... Little high no??

And $4(estimate) to CFCF is a good thing yes?

EzDad

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From:  paragon Authentic
Date:  07/09/05 11:43 PM

Power Rangers are almost $40.00 a cigar... Little high no??

they were $65 at mandalay bay during big smoke...

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From:  fia Authentic
Date:  07/10/05 2:22 AM

Had a nice time smoking a Hemmingway Classic Sungrown and drinking a mojito (pretty good one btw) while hanging out with Stinky when I was up there last month.

Aloha


Fia
email
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From:  Cigar Grubb Authentic
Date:  07/10/05 6:41 PM

Almost three hundred!

Brian...^


From:  DarthSimon Authentic
Date:  07/11/05 10:50 AM

Yes, but isn't this store owned by Fuente?? 40 bucks a stick for Power Rangers??

E-Mail The Sith
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From:  moki Authentic
Date:  07/16/05 7:37 PM

No, the store is not owned by Fuente

vitolas.net -- rare cigar reference & more...


From:  fred d. Authentic
Date:  07/18/05 3:37 PM

The Casa Fuente cigar is a damn good smoke! Pricey but wow! what flavor. One stout stick. pretty band too.

I wonder if you can sell Davidoff without selling the Griffins or whatever their "Cuesta Rey" is?

I do find it odd that some companies will sell something via 1-800 whent hey have local reps. Verizon for instance advertises 1-800 all the time taking business fro local reps in the mall.

$0.02

give me more cigars.

fred d.
"I go smoking to fish"
Here's my Homepage


From:  FlyFish Authentic
Date:  07/18/05 4:39 PM

Whiney ass baby checking in to push this puppy to 300

tight lines and long ashes


From:  RichL Authentic
Date:  07/18/05 5:19 PM

Someday I hope to visit the Willy Wonkaland of Fuentes and try one of those babies myself while sitting at the bar with an espresso.

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From:  Cigar Grubb Authentic
Date:  07/18/05 5:29 PM

keeping an eye out....

Brian...^


From:  Cigar Grubb Authentic
Date:  07/18/05 5:44 PM

texttextCONTEST UPDATE: If the CF menber that posts #300 has posted more than 3 times since my 07/06/05 7:48 PM post starting this contest, the Casa Fuente will go to the CF member that make the next post and still qualifies in the 3 and under posts rule, and so on and so on...

Brian...^


From:  Joker Dan
Date:  07/18/05 6:22 PM

I go to Las Vegas all the time but hardly ever go to the Strip. Had to see this joint and think it's excellent!!!!! Just hung out and smoked while watching all the girls go by. Good service. On the ball and beautiful laid back waitress. Good thing the company was buying.


From:  Tom Ato Authentic
Date:  07/23/05 9:59 AM

Man, I'm dying to go back to LV. Haven't been since my BIL and his wife moved back to CA. (No free place to stay ) Is this shop in the new section?

From:  BK Collector Authentic
Date:  07/23/05 12:43 PM

Just got back a little less than a week ago. Nice place but I should have come back a day sooner than I did.

By saying "I don't know" you appear more intelligent than shaking your head like you know when someone knows you don't.


From:  tygr
Date:  08/02/05 4:35 PM

A friend of mine brought me back a CF from LV a couple of weeks ago. About a Churchill-sized stick. Stuck it in the humi and am trying to wait for a special occasion. I can't drop $25 on a smoke just any day! LOL

It sure smells good. Tick...tock...tick...tock...


From:  gwk20
Date:  08/02/05 8:17 PM

Visited 7/31 and picked up a handful of the Casa Fuente torpedos. Smoked one there c/ a nice single malt. The Casa Fuente house blend is one of the finest medium bodied cigars I have had.

A few other random thoughts: the waitress is one of the finest women I have seen.

The woman staffing the humidor was not hard on the eyes either and really knew her stuff.

Compared to the Davidoff's that are in every casino (even the big one in Mandalay Place), Casa Fuente is for the knowledgable. Sure, I saw a handful of wannabe goodfellas and young hipsters who don't know anything about cigars walk in, but it is clear this place is something special. It beats out my next favourite place, the Davidoff shop in Jermyn Street, London. Great sticks and less attitude. I hope the Fuente's open other houses in New York and London.

One area for improvement: the cocktail list did not include premium rums. Granted, like cigars, most of the best are Cuban, but they need to have a few of the rarer top shelf varieties available and listed.


From:  playaaa Authentic
Date:  08/02/05 9:58 PM

I wanna go to the Casa store big time!

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From:  drkaje Authentic
Date:  08/03/05 12:09 PM

Normally I wouldn't chime in on when these little pissing matches get going but I'm bored.

Fuente can only make so many of it's great cigars (opus, sg, casa, etc...) it would be silly to think that their flagship store wouldn't have them available. It would be even sillier to think that guranteed availability in one place will not lead to shortage elsewhere.

A lot of people I've discussed this topic with feel continually bastardizing the leaf into rarer, more expensive and difficult to find smokes is an abuse of customer loyalty.

FN is a smart company with products that are in demand but at some point there has to be some backlash from retailers. That really won't happen until some other company can make a great cigar with the level of consistiency that Fuente can.

That's just the truth.

Cigars are a luxury item and creating scarcity will only work for so long. Big deal if there's a mini cigar boom with Fuente products, it's not really a boom since more people aren't smoking. Some people are just paying more for cigars due to their being, rare, limited release, only 267 boxes made, etc...

A few years back in one of the old JR catalogs LR wrote that there wasn't a single cigar that cost more than 1$ to produce. I doubt that has changed very much.

I'll still buy certain cigars 858 sg, opus nad a few others when there's a good deal.

I just won't believe the hype, LOL!

You can't rescue a fish from water....


From:  The Master Authentic
Date:  08/03/05 3:41 PM

"A few years back in one of the old JR catalogs LR wrote that there wasn't a single cigar that cost more than 1$ to produce. I doubt that has changed very much."

I have been to the Fuente factories and I can say with certainty that many cigars they produce cost way more than a dollar. Lew may be talking about factories in Honduras or Nicaragua but the rollers in the DR make a lot more than the rollers in those other countries. The cost of warehousing years of tobacco, the cost of boxes, the cost of advertising, the cost of labor makes it impossible for a high end cigar to cost only a dollar.


From:  drkaje Authentic
Date:  08/04/05 10:25 AM

Master,

In 23+ years of cigar enjoyment, never once have I been tempted to smoke a box or Ad.

I'll agree fully that there are other factors which add to the retail cost of a cigar. My point (and you're too damn smart to miss it) is that the Fuentes can only produce so many cigars and that new brands/products/promotions/stores/etc.. inevitably take away from regular production.

Am I the only one that has noticed fewer opus and other cigars I love since all the humidor deals and "special cigars" have been coming out? I'm definately not the only person who feels the 13's, rosados, Phantoms, chilli peppers, VSG ERs and so on are proced way the heck out of the pockets of the customer base who helped Fuente become a household name. I have a pretty decent job (doctor) and would never consider spending what most of the "Special", "limited" or otherwise realeses are going for per stick. Really, I'm done having kids and not planning on marriage soon. What occasion would be special enough for a $30 + cigar?

I do respect your loyalty, that's not in question. What I question is your blind faith.

You can't rescue a fish from water....


From:  Van55 Authentic
Date:  08/04/05 10:51 AM

I'm going to Vegas this weekend. I plan to check the Casa out while I'm there. But just to look; not to buy. I am carrying 85 cigars out there from my personal stash and they don't sell the cigars I am carrying in Vegas.

(Did I make it 300?)

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From:  Cigar Grubb Authentic
Date:  08/04/05 11:45 AM

Naw,... says you were 288 This is 299 for my own record....lol

Brian...^


From:  Cigar Grubb Authentic
Date:  08/04/05 11:45 AM

so I can't count... that was 289, THIS is 290

Brian...^


From:  pittesq Authentic
Date:  08/04/05 12:20 PM

Headed to Vegas on the 18th. Can't wait to check this place out. Bringing my own stash, but I'm sure I'll pick up a few things there that are hard for me to come by. In DC it is almost impossible to find opus and anejos(even in season) at a cigar shop unless you have an "in" there and find out the date they are hitting the shelves ahead of time. Besides I'd like to check out the casa fuente cigars and the waitreses of course


From:  AnacostiaKat Authentic
Date:  08/04/05 12:33 PM

Turn your ss on!

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Meow, Baby!


From:  OldManCooley Authentic
Date:  08/04/05 12:39 PM

I been there. It's pretty interesting!!!

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From:  Van55 Authentic
Date:  08/04/05 1:04 PM

I doubt it will make 300.

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From:  PrizePig Authentic
Date:  08/04/05 1:14 PM

Oh, I think it will make 300.

And when it does, it will probably hit 310 or 320 within about sixty seconds if it does not bring the server crashing down first. LOL!


From:  PrizePig Authentic
Date:  08/04/05 1:17 PM

And of course, some A-hole could screw it all up by making his 4th, 5th, or 11th post Number 300, huh?

Well, now we are at 297 and the fun can really start.

Let the games begin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


From:  ericdriscoll Authentic
Date:  08/04/05 1:17 PM

Did I get to 300 yet?

"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. (Albert Einstein)"


From:  paragon Authentic
Date:  08/04/05 1:18 PM

or this one.

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From:  paragon Authentic
Date:  08/04/05 1:18 PM

Maybe this one.

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From:  PrizePig Authentic
Date:  08/04/05 1:18 PM

me


From:  PrizePig Authentic
Date:  08/04/05 1:19 PM

DAMN OPTRICAL MOUSE FROZE Up!!!!!

SCREW Michael Dell forever!


From:  gamehawker Authentic
Date:  08/04/05 1:21 PM

300

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From:  Needagoodcigar Authentic
Date:  08/04/05 1:26 PM

This has got to be the longest craziest post ever in the history of CF

"Happiness? A good meal, a good cigar, and a good woman - or a bad woman; it depends on how much happiness you can handle."-George Burns


From:  cb Authentic
Date:  08/04/05 1:29 PM

not even close.

 cb


From:  pittesq Authentic
Date:  08/04/05 1:32 PM

my hats is in the ring!


From:  levell3 Authentic
Date:  08/04/05 1:39 PM

crap! went to lunch and were are already past the 300 mark!


From:  1SUMBCH Authentic
Date:  08/04/05 2:15 PM

Been there - 300?

Now is that a real poncho or is that a Sears poncho?


From:  Cigar Grubb Authentic
Date:  08/04/05 2:21 PM

Welll looks like it is paragon!! Congrats Jonathan. By my count your 3rd post was # 300. SS me your info!

Brian...^


From:  gamehawker Authentic
Date:  08/04/05 2:23 PM

DAMMIT!

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From:  The Master Authentic
Date:  08/04/05 4:27 PM

drkaje, you made a statement about the cost of cigars. My post disputed that statement, how does blind loyalty have anything to do with the cost of cigars?


From:  Needagoodcigar Authentic
Date:  08/04/05 11:03 PM

wasn't there something in the rules about only 1 post per cfer to win?

"Happiness? A good meal, a good cigar, and a good woman - or a bad woman; it depends on how much happiness you can handle."-George Burns


From:  Cigar Grubb
Date:  08/05/05 12:15 PM

No, it was 3 or less posts. He posted 3.


From:  barryh Authentic
Date:  08/06/05 7:31 PM

Master,

You stated that "I have been to the Fuente factories and I can say with certainty that many cigars they produce cost way more than a dollar". OK...Prove it...I don't doubt they do but do doubt you can prove it...

BarryH
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From:  The Master Authentic
Date:  08/07/05 12:19 PM

Barry, I don't have access to the Fuentes cost numbers,but if you want I'll call Carlito and tell him to email me his numbers so I can prove a point to some jag off on CF.

I have had many conversations with people at F/N and I will stand by my statement that many of their cigars cost way more than a dollar.


From:  barryh Authentic
Date:  08/07/05 4:44 PM

Master,

I'll stand by my statement "I don't doubt they do but do doubt you can prove it... " enough said...

As for being a jag off, turning the conversation to name calling is way to typical for someone who gets in a corner...I expected better.

BarryH
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From:  The Master Authentic
Date:  08/07/05 5:01 PM

barry, you are a classless troll whose only purpose in posting in this room is to take shots at the owners of this site.

Your only posts in this room for the whole year are shots at the Fuentes on the Casa Fuente thread.


From:  Needagoodcigar Authentic
Date:  08/07/05 5:40 PM

AH I see, knew I should have read the rules a little closer. lol

"Happiness? A good meal, a good cigar, and a good woman - or a bad woman; it depends on how much happiness you can handle."-George Burns


From:  barryh Authentic
Date:  08/07/05 5:46 PM

Master,

With all due respect, as much as you would like everybody to have the us against them mentality, I just don't share that. I enjoy Fuentes products as well as others and in the scheme of life, it means very little. I do however take issue with people like yourself who rather than offer an opinion, try and pretend to be an expert when they are not.

Back to the issue, try and refrain from name calling and just answer the question I posted above... as I said, "I don't doubt they do but do doubt you can prove it... "

BarryH
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From:  The Master Authentic
Date:  08/07/05 8:41 PM

barry, i don't waste time on insignificant trolls like you. You are not worthy of consideration.


From:  barryh Authentic
Date:  08/07/05 9:59 PM

Master,

It seems like you do...but glad to see you evade again......

BarryH
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From:  Cigar Grubb Authentic
Date:  08/08/05 12:40 AM

nother contest to lighten the mood??...lol

Brian...^


From:  Van55 Authentic
Date:  08/08/05 3:07 PM

I visited Casa Fuente on Saturday.

Very nice shop. The ladies at the register were attractive and helpful. A friend bought as cigar scissors for $35.00 that he would have paid $50.00 for elsewhere and the price included tax and free shipping to his home (after he used them during his stay) so he didn't risk confiscation at the airport.

The humidor was smaller than I anticipated, but very well stocked with F/N products.

I'd return there in the future.

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From:  BK Collector Authentic
Date:  08/08/05 3:13 PM

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But did you get my money back from the Venetian like I asked

By saying "I don't know" you appear more intelligent than shaking your head like you know when someone knows you don't.


From:  drkaje Authentic
Date:  08/16/05 10:30 AM

Master, I was off-line. Moved the office and had no internet.

Even if one of those cigars cost $2 to make the price just doesn't bear out.

I don't get why any less than stunning opinion is trashing the Fuentes and Newmans. I still buy tons of their products and have spent more on Opus and VSGs than I would ever admit, LOL!

My point is that they are leaving a lot of customers behind with this whole controlled scarcity bit. They've gone from a company that produced cigars that everyone could afford and get to one making $10,000 humidors and cigars that you have to know someone in order to get.

You can't rescue a fish from water....


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