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Venator
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 Posted: Tue Jun 10th, 2008 02:17 pm
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One of the things that people new to open carry fear is that they are the only ones doing it.  This Thread is for members to share their experiences good or bad while openly carrying.  It is hoped that by sharing and in a way, documenting all of the open carry experiences we have in Michigan we will build a data base with some facts we can cite to those new to open carry.

What we would like is for the members to, in a sense log the places and hours they open carry.  List the hours you open carry a week, the places you carry, the towns, and businesses where you carry, etc. 

For example:

1) East Lansing, Beaners Coffe cafe-2 hours drinking coffee and playing chess.  One person asked me if I was a cop.  Otherwise no problems.

2) North Lansing Walmart, 1 hour shopping, no problems.

SQLtables
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 Posted: Tue Jun 10th, 2008 05:25 pm
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Would it be better to log each "event", or a summary for the week, or what?

Either way, here are a few from this last weekend.

 

1) Midland Wal-mart, 1.5 hours shopping, The guy didn't card me for ammo because "well, you have a gun, so..."

2) Saginaw Target, 30 minutes shopping, no problems

3) My sisters house in Millington, the lady buying our couch asked why I carry, they couldn't understand that I wasn't a cop


 

ETA:  I really like this idea.  I carry, and I still wonder if I'm the only one :uhoh:

Last edited on Tue Jun 10th, 2008 05:26 pm by SQLtables

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 Posted: Tue Jun 10th, 2008 10:20 pm
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If we ask real nice, do you think we can get one of the Mods to sticky this thread so it stays at the top? :)

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 Posted: Wed Jun 11th, 2008 02:15 am
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Went today to Lowe's home improvement this evening for 45 min to get garage door springs, then to gas station for a drink & chatted with the gal at the cash register for 5-10 min   all while OC my full size H&K USP with a extended fluted stainless barrel in a black hawk rig.  NOT ONE PROBLEM:D Boring evening just the way i like it:lol:

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 Posted: Wed Jun 11th, 2008 09:33 am
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I have been oc ing for a little over 3yrs now. I cc'd for most of the first year after I got my cpl (due to the mis-informaton we were all given). I have carried in many cities in Shiawassee, Saginaw, Genessee, and Oakland counties. The primary city that I have carried in which I had early concerns-- Flint-- mostly east side. After more than 2yrs of ocing there and NEVER been challenged by anyone, I no longer have any concerns about carrying there at all. All of my challenged experiences have been within the last year. I'll list just highlights below.

1. Challenged at Walmart by a guy who, because my gun was showing and did I have a permit. I asked who he was to ask and he said he was an off duty LEO. Didn't offer a badge or ID, so I told him it was none of his damn business and if he had a problem with it he better call someone that gives a **** and I turned and walked out the door. It was his attitude that pissed me off. He really looked kinda stupid just standing there watching me walk away from him.

2. Challenged at Walmart by the night shift manager and told not to oc in the store anymore. I have since resolved that with a talk to the security manager. He will instruct his managers that Walmart policy is what ever is covered by state law.

3. Challenged at Home Depot this year (see Mich thread--911 man with a gun-- for the full story on that one. I have since been labled the "Trouble maker" by my friends at the Depot (they are making fun of the cops in the lot), and always ask me if I've had anymore "interviews".  

4. Just this past Sat. downtown Owosso, Curwood festival going on, took a walk from parking lot to hardware store. About 100 or more people in that block walking around. Got a lot of looks and a few pointing fingers, but no one freaked out and I did my shopping, went to my truck and went home. There are about 5 or 6 LEO's who walk the beat in the streets during Curwood, and none of them showed up.

These are the only challenges I have had in almost 4yrs of carrying CC / OC. As open carry is becoming more popular, I think much of the excitement will be dying down, but I will post my further carrying experiences as they "Don't happen".

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 Posted: Wed Jun 11th, 2008 11:42 am
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I've been OC/casual concealed in Kalamazoo for about 4 months (since I rec'd my CPL). 

While in OC mode I've been in Meijer's, Menards, Lowe's, Sam's, MC Sports, Golf Services, Barnes and Noble, Best Buy and in numerous gas stations and other stores with no complaints.  Only 2 people have said anything; not negative, not positive just inquisitive.

Interestingly, I have yet to see anyone else OC'ing in the area.

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 Posted: Wed Jun 11th, 2008 11:46 am
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Venator,

Certainly Sir, you are aware of the politically incorrect term "Beaner's" and will henceforth note that particular caffination station by it's politically correct term as "Bigby's".

:dude:

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 Posted: Wed Jun 11th, 2008 12:36 pm
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Last edited on Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 11:15 pm by Venator

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 Posted: Wed Jun 11th, 2008 01:21 pm
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Last edited on Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 11:16 pm by Venator

SQLtables
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 Posted: Wed Jun 11th, 2008 01:58 pm
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I wasn't really challenged, but I went in to the Saginaw JCPenneys last night to buy a belt.  I was CCing my gun, but wearing the mag pouch that came with my XD, so it was clearly visible with my shiny silver mags in it.  I was trying on belts, so I lifted my shirt, but I did my best not to show everybody I was carrying, just because...

Anyway, my girlfriends sister works there, so we walked over to talk to her, and this dude in plain clothes came up and started talking to her about merchandise, and eyeing me up, I didn't think anything of it. 

Later that night, I talked to her sister, and she said he was Loss Prevention, and I was "flaunting" my gun around.  No issues other than hearing that, to which I responded "good for him, I did nothing wrong"

I assume he saw my two spare mags, and knew I had a gun, which is fine with me.

Big Gay Al
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 Posted: Thu Jun 12th, 2008 01:39 am
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Well, I went to Walgreens, Aldi's and stopped at the new Speedway, near the South LPD precint.  In Walgreens, the only comment I got was "nice piece, what is it?" from the guy behind the counter.  (Para Ordnance P1445).

At Aldi's, no comments, a LOT of staring.  Ditto at Speedway when I went to pre-pay for the gas.  (This place has had numerous drive offs, and has been held up once that I know of.)


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 Posted: Thu Jun 12th, 2008 02:54 am
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rode the last 30 miles of Sunday Harley ride ocing, oced today after work when the wife and I rode our mountain bikes on the state hiway a mile to the township park for a picknic supper, there and back. no problems, neighbors waved as they drove by.

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 Posted: Thu Jun 12th, 2008 11:10 pm
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These days it's easier to say where I don't open carry. I don't carry at work, and I don't carry where they have signs. But usually I don't shop at those places with no weapons signs.

Arizona is awesome.:celebrate:celebrate:celebrate


Although, I do feel bad for having left Michigan and made it easy on myself.:(

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 Posted: Thu Jun 12th, 2008 11:13 pm
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Michigander wrote: These days it's easier to say where I don't open carry. I don't carry at work, and I don't carry where they have signs. But usually I don't shop at those places with no weapons signs.

Arizona is awesome.:celebrate:celebrate:celebrate


Although, I do feel bad for having left Michigan and made it easy on myself.:(


GUILT, GUILT, GUILT,---- NOT!!!

Good to hear from you, hope you are doing well. 

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 Posted: Thu Jun 12th, 2008 11:19 pm
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http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum65/11866.html

Other than that, I'm doing peachy. Should be walking again in 6 weeks, and I'll be back at work in a few days. :cool:

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 Posted: Fri Jun 13th, 2008 12:34 am
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Venator, can you send me a PM, I wanted to ask you something about Michigan but your e-mail feature is private.

 

Thanks

Venator
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 Posted: Fri Jun 13th, 2008 12:45 pm
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I have been open carrying about a year now and do it primarily on the weekends and vacations.  I can’t carry at work (policy).  I can’t remember all of the places so will give a few examples that I can remember.

Lansing: Various times in downtown businesses, at an open carry get together (park), in the State Capital building and other various state building (Museum/library, Secretary of State, etc.).  I have carried in a Walmart on the north side, as well as the Krispy Kreme near the East Point mall.

East Lansing:  Mostly at Bigbys Coffee stores, and a few downtown businesses/restaurants (a Chinese place). 

Meridian Township:  Bigbys, a few other stores and restaurants (Dennys,). 

Bath Township: Downtown diner and convenience store.

Brighton: McDonalds at open carry get together.

Flint: McDonalds at open carry get together.  And when doing the talk show.

Traverse City: Downtown shops, J&S hamburgers, 

Beulah and environs: Various downtown shops and shopping centers.

Burton:  Kelly Lake park, Picnic for about 4 hours, all went well, a few park goers asked some questions about OC.

Last edited on Wed Jun 18th, 2008 12:22 pm by Venator

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 Posted: Sun Jun 15th, 2008 12:13 am
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OC'ed for the FIRST time today at Kelly Lake Park in Burton, Mich. of course i was with a bunch of the fine folks from right here at OCDO, but none the less it was my FIRST time. thanks to todays outting i will be OC'ing more and more.

we had absolutely NO issues. the place was crawling with families, kids and their pets. we had a few passers by even stop and take some info on the subject of OC'ing. it was VERY liberating.

carry often and carry safe...

SQLtables
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 Posted: Sun Jun 15th, 2008 04:03 am
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I was thinking about this after the get together today, and I can probably set up a form on my website to make this easier.  I can create a backend database to organize all of the data, and you would just see a web form to enter the info.

I don't know if this is something you'd be interested in or not, we would have to link to it from here.  I also don't know how quickly I could have it ready, I'm pretty busy with work and school, but I'd do my best.

Let me know.

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 Posted: Sun Jun 15th, 2008 04:58 am
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+1, i like the idea.


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