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		Leland Y Chee Member Profile Total Posts: 1390 Member Since: 05/00

Date Posted: Nov 06, 2006 06:03 PM

are the "Dreadnaught cruisers" mentioned in it the same as the Rendili Dreadaught cruisers used in the 'modern' era?
That I do not know.

OK, the Galactic Battlegrounds manual says that OOM-9 started off as a standard Battle Droid, but then was promoted. Can we consider that to be true, and that he was retrofitted on promotion?
Sounds like it could be true to me.

Droids animated series B-wing
Likely, it's some sort of predecessor like the H-60 Tempest bomber.

What's the name of the Dark Jedi General Grievous killed in that Star Wars Manga comic?
The dark siders that General Grievous faces on Dica in the original Japanese manga comics are twins named Ka and Li. They survive the confrontation. The continuity of the manga comics is a bit fuzzy. I haven't heard of any plans for English version of these comics, so the Ka and Li names might not be the final names in English.

Adam_wan_kenobi
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Date Posted: Nov 06, 2006 09:30 PM

Are the Imperial Military Code mentioned in Children of the Jedi, and the Imperial Penal Code mentioned in The Star Wars Holiday Special the same thing?

jSarek
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Date Posted: Nov 07, 2006 01:17 AM

Probably no more than the Uniform Code of Military Justice is the same thing as the US Code on federal crimes.

Adam_wan_kenobi
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Date Posted: Nov 07, 2006 01:28 AM

Now I feel like an idiot. :S

		Leland Y Chee Member Profile Total Posts: 1390 Member Since: 05/00

Date Posted: Nov 07, 2006 12:06 PM

Correction on the original manga comic. An English version will be available in the UK. I haven't seen it yet, so no word on the final names.

		eddie Member Profile Total Posts: 989 Member Since: 12/99

Date Posted: Nov 07, 2006 01:26 PM

This message was edited by eddie on Nov 07, 2006 01:28 PM

My good (online) friend Tim B from the UK mailed me a few days ago that he picked up the English versions of the two Jap. Mangas!!! He will send me two too, so I guess... THEY'RE OUT!!!! (sorry for shouting

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edit: see Tim's message here:

http://forums.starwars.com/thread.jspa?threadID=222689&start=3330

jacenmike957
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Date Posted: Nov 07, 2006 01:50 PM

I just bought The new essential guide to alien species, and it states that the Iktotchi have clarevoyance abilities. Whereas in every other source material it states that the species is in fact telepathic. I was wondering if this was forgotten when TNEGTAS was written or do they have both abilities? By the way the book was well done in case any one was wondering.

Violetlight
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Date Posted: Nov 07, 2006 02:33 PM

Speaking of the New Essential Guide to Aliens:

Since it states that the "blueness" of a Chiss's skin is determined by how much oxygen is in the air he or she is breathing at any given time, does that answer the question of "If you choke a Chiss, what colour will he turn?" i.e. he'll turn a lighter shade of blue?

		Leland Y Chee Member Profile Total Posts: 1390 Member Since: 05/00

Date Posted: Nov 08, 2006 10:47 AM

I just bought The new essential guide to alien species, and it states that the Iktotchi have clarevoyance abilities. Whereas in every other source material it states that the species is in fact telepathic.
The info regarding Iktotchi having precognitive abilities dates back to the Alien Anthology RPG (2001). It is not new to the Essential Guide. We know that Saesee Tiin and Vigo Narees (Darth Maul comic) have natural telepathic abilities, so this still holds true for the species as well.

General Grievous' Bodyguard
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Date Posted: Nov 08, 2006 01:34 PM

This message was edited by General Grievous' Bodyguard on Nov 08, 2006 01:35 PM

Have any of the background Neimoidians on Naboo in The Phantom Menace been named?

Is one Gode Takrab from Secrets of Naboo?

		Leland Y Chee Member Profile Total Posts: 1390 Member Since: 05/00

Date Posted: Nov 08, 2006 04:36 PM

Have any of the background Neimoidians on Naboo in The Phantom Menace been named? Is one Gode Takrab from Secrets of Naboo?

The background Neimoidians on Naboo are unnamed. If we ever have to name them, we'd definitely consider names from existing sources before deciding on a final name. Ma'kis'shaalas (Nikto Jedi in ROTS) and Reina March (Outlander patron in AOTC) are two names from the RPG.

gufvcytv
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Date Posted: Nov 09, 2006 03:37 AM

This message was edited by gufvcytv on Nov 09, 2006 03:40 AM

Someone is claiming that anything from C-canon source material is definitely canon. Even if it is contradicted by the films. I'm thinking that just because something is from C-canon doesn't automatically make it 'canon' (Not as in it's just in a canon level, but canon as in it can be considered a universal truth in SW), especially if it is contradicted by G-canon. I'm saying that if a certain 'fact' is in a C-canon book, but is contradicted by a G-canon source, it's not canon at all - it's not said to be true in the SW universe.

Who is correct?

And, is the number of Clones created in total said by Karen Traviss definitely canon?

		Leland Y Chee Member Profile Total Posts: 1390 Member Since: 05/00

Date Posted: Nov 09, 2006 10:33 AM

Who is correct?
I've clarified my description of canon in my What is the Holocron? blog.

The database does indeed have a canon field for each individual entry and for sources, though the canon level of the entry would overide the canon level of the source since it factors in other sources associated with that entry. When determining canon levels for individual entries, anything in the films and from George Lucas (including unpublished internal notes that we might receive from him or from the film production department) is considered "G" canon. Next we have what we call continuity "C" canon which is pretty much everything else from the EU. There is a secondary "S" continuity classification used for older published materials created when there was less attention to making everything in the EU fit with everything else in the EU. But, if it is referenced in something else it becomes "C". Similarly, any "C" canon entry that makes it into the films can become "G" canon. Lastly there is non-continuity "N" which we rarely use except in the case of a blatant contradiction. Any contradictions that arise are dealt with on a case-by-case basis.

And, is the number of Clones created in total said by Karen Traviss definitely canon?
Yes.

General Grievous' Bodyguard
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Date Posted: Nov 09, 2006 10:54 AM

		Leland Y Chee Member Profile Total Posts: 1390 Member Since: 05/00

Date Posted: Nov 10, 2006 02:28 PM

Is the Muun mentioned in Labyrinth of Evil that was captured after the Battle of Muunilinst that gave the Republic a code for Gunray's Mechno-Chair one of the Muuns seen in the Star Wars: Clone Wars cartoon?
That certainly was the intent, but without a name in either source, we can't say exactly which.

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