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ulic_g99
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Date Posted: May 20, 2009 02:19 PM

Looks female, as far as I can tell from the one slightly blurry shot we've seen of it so far; seems like she's got shortish, black hair as well and a blue lightsaber, though to be honest as I'm colour blind I'm probably not much help. :)
Leland Y Chee
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Date Posted: Jun 15, 2009 03:12 PM

Does the material in [the unpublished Star Wars Adventure Journal issues 16 and 17] figure into the canon system of Holocron continuity?
That material is not included in the Holocron.
DarthMRN
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Date Posted: Jun 16, 2009 04:51 AM

S-canon, I presume?
ulic_g99
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Date Posted: Jun 16, 2009 02:36 PM

I don't think it would be even that... if the material isn't entered in the Holocron at all, it wouldn't even receive a canon level as there's no record for it in the database.
Nathan P. Butler
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Date Posted: Jun 16, 2009 04:31 PM

Yeah, I'd consider that as "doesn't even exist." Remember, these were *unpublished* AJ's. The stuff that ended up later reprinted in, say, TFTNR or something would count now, but why in the world would something never published be in the Holcoron at any canon level?

Would you expect to see Escape from Dagu in there? The Knightfall Trilogy? Episodes VII - IX?
disturbing
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Date Posted: Jun 16, 2009 07:37 PM

> S-canon, I presume?

More like "doesn't exist". S-canon is for works that partially contradict the movies. As much of an S-canon work as possible will be included, so long as it doesn't contradict G-, T-, or C-canon. The Thrawn trilogy is a good example of S-canon (getting the Clone Wars wrong), as are the Marvels (Anakin, Vader, and Obi-Wan?).
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Date Posted: Jun 16, 2009 11:26 PM

The Thrawn Trilogy simply had elements that were deemed non-canonical and tossed out from the DFR dates for the Clone Wars. The novels themselves are C-Canon, not S-Canon.
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Date Posted: Jun 17, 2009 06:30 AM

Yea, didn't they just retcon the Clone Wars dates as being from the Noghri calendar? And the nature of the Clone Wars as explained in the Thrawn Trilogy was retconned to refer to something else (I think it referred to the Kamino Uprising in Battlefront II).
DarthMRN
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Date Posted: Jun 17, 2009 06:57 AM

Ah! Unpublished. Missed that part.

Not that being unpublished would categorically preclude inclusion in the Holocron, but I doubt something like that would be.
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Date Posted: Jun 17, 2009 09:08 AM
This message was edited by Jedi Kasra on Jun 17, 2009 09:09 AM

Hello, Mr. Chee, I'm relatively new here. I have a question, is the action figure of Darth Revan a canonical "image" of Revan. Cause that would mean he was light-skinned, and I thought that Lucasfilm was reluctant to give a canonical appearance to Revan. Does the figure mean anything, or does this mean that Revan indeed was a white male?
ulic_g99
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Date Posted: Jun 19, 2009 03:34 PM

Following on from Kasra's question above - if the bald action figure Revan and brown haired Exile miniature are the canonical appearances of Revan and the Exile, are they supposed to represent one of the specific faces that can be selected in the game (these for Revan and these for the Exile) or are they some sort of amalgamation / new creation?
Leland Y Chee
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Date Posted: Jun 28, 2009 04:41 PM

...Does the figure mean anything...
Nothing beyond it being one possible version of Revan.
ulic_g99
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Date Posted: Jun 28, 2009 05:34 PM

Excellent, that also indirectly answers my question about the Exile's miniature - many thanks, Mr Chee!
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Date Posted: Jun 29, 2009 02:23 AM
This message was edited by Vitas Varnas on Jun 29, 2009 02:23 AM

Does the Holocron database include all information from the Jedi Prince series like Trioculus others since the series is canon?
ulic_g99
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Date Posted: Jun 30, 2009 02:31 PM
This message was edited by ulic_g99 on Jun 30, 2009 02:32 PM

That's correct - the Holocron holds all canonical information, and while I'm not Leland Chee, I'm pretty sure that the Jedi Prince series is mainly S-canon, though some parts of it have been raised to C-canon level as they have been referenced in other works.
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