2. The disengagement is going to be a painful process for the Israeli society. Many people are talking about the possibility of a civil war. The sheer complexity of the plan, and the trauma it's going to inflict upon the Israeli society will show how completely impossible it is for the Israelis to make a similiar move in the West Bank. This "amputating the arm so the patient can live" approach is what Sharon constantly alludes to.

"The significance of the disengagement plan is the freezing of the peace process...effectively, this whole package called the Palestinian state, with all that it entails, has been removed indefinitely from our agenda."

Weisglass had said in an interview with Haaretz magazine last year: "When you freeze that process, you prevent the establishment of a Palestinian state, and you prevent a discussion on the refugees, the borders and Jerusalem...disengagement supplies the amount of formaldehyde (a compound that maintains a given condition) that is necessary so there will not be a political process with the Palestinians."

Further, these articles never touch on the legitimacy of Israel and therefore take it as a given. Israel is no more legitimate than any other racist country. We did not hear cries of legitimacy when Apartheid South Africa fell. In fact we cheered. Let us recognize the true enemy here; Zionism. If Israel gives up its racist ideology it can have true peace in the same way South Africa gave up Apartheid and gained peace.

Whether or not there is a real compromise happening for Israel as a whole - we can do nothing but give support to those that have moved.

In my fantasy world the day after everyone has moved, the Palestinians will ask for everyone to come back and live on their land peacefully and hugs all around. Plus a real mean house block BBQ!

The jews always had an attitude problem, which has caused them numerous problems in the past. They were expelled from Palestine by the romans, because of the constant trouble they wrought about (for this, however, they deserve commendation; after all, they were there first).

However, as they were spread-out all over the place, their terminal buttheadness prevented them from mingling harmoniously with the population of the areas they were banished to, earning them some well-deserved ill-will.

Meanwhile, Palestine jewish-vacuum was being filled by other people, who got to live there for two millenium.

As the diaspora was forced to wander about, they had to learn to live in a way where they could concentrate their wealth in an easily movable way (hence their obsession with diamonds or gold) or in an unremovable way (by valuing education). The former was helped a lot by the exceedingly stupid attitudes the scatholic church had about wealth, relegating the jews into the roles no sane scatholic would do, like bankers and financiers. So, over time, jews were able to muster and control considerable financial ressources and power.

The combination of intellectual prowess and financial power proved to be extremely hazardous to the people wielding it. During the late 18th century and the early 20th century, novel ideologies that sought to, amongst other things, do away with private property were peddled about, and in many places implemented by jewish intellectuals. This, allied to the (real or supposed) jewish financial power turned-off a lot of people against the jews.

In other places, such as the United States, jews were banished from many older-established sectors of the economy and thus were concentrated in the newer sectors that never had any "tradition", such as the cinematographic "industry". Over time, this would be used by the jews to further their own interests as movies became more and more an able form of propaganda, and mass control.

Many places who had a strong antisemite tradition were happy to jump on the bandwagon, and before long, the strongest antisemite movement ever saw the light of day, whose culmination was the industrial extermination of a significant portion of european jews.

The reaction to this unprecedented tragedy was the establishment of a totally artificial and unviable country for the jews alone, in a way that guaranteed a permanent regional enmity against the jews. This was done thanks to the newly-found influence the jews had over the United States of America, who, through some diplomatic arm-twisting regarding probable investment in rubber-plantations in Africa, were able to coerce a sufficient number of insignificant african countries into voting for the creation of what is called "israel".

Once there, the jews continued upon their customary assheadness racism by simply stealing the natural ressources and kicking-out the previous inhabitants. This promptly earned the rightful wreath of it's neighbours, many of those who had to contend with a tremenduous number of refugees, and since then, it was only the artificial infusion of wealth from the manipulated states of america that did not ensure that the jews were thrown back into the sea, and insuring a permanent state of instability in a region that suddenly became very important because of some nearby areas are very rich in petroleum.

As long as the jews will be jews, the jews will be picked upon. Hence the need for a truly final solutions for the jewish problem.

Cancel israel. Give it back to the palestinians. The less assheaded jews will undoubtely allowed to remain there. For the rest... Well, they will have to emigrate (again). Receiving countries will understand that they will have to do their share of the effort.

Of course, jews will have to do their part of the work, mainly by ditching their assheaded attitude, if needed by dumping their old religion.

This could be enhanced by allowing religious discrimination, to drive home the point that it is solely their religion that is the source of their problems, and by ridding themselves of their religion, they will be able to integrate other societies for mutual benefit.

Other peoples have done the same thing, such as the Québec french canadians who realized, 40 years ago, that their lowly economic status was caused by their stupid attachment to the scatholic church. Once this was realized, scatholicism has been relegated in it's rightful place, the trasheap of history. And since then, Québec has developped into one of the most technologically advanced societies (canadian high-tech industries are concentrated in Québec).

It's time for judaism to suffer the same fate, that jews dump their stupid assinine religion that inflates their heads and distillates the hatred of others for them.

Truly, religion has to be eradicated; we have enough trouble getting along with the various races, languages and cultures, we don't need yet another artificial barrier to mutual understanding.
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Of course, there is no certainty that such a path will result in success, but neither is there a certainty that violent action will, either. On the other hand, there is a near-certainty that once you resort to initiating violence, the target of your actions will respond in kind, and escalate -- this is not only human nature, it is logical and appropriate.

There is an answer and that is simply don't start something, or at the very least, don't start something you can't finish. Don't hijack, don't assault, don't throw stones, don't invade, don't even threaten. Use your mind and your mouth and your pencil and keep your fucking hands to yourself.

All this is aside from the nationalistic bullshit that encourages twerps into the idea that they must have "their own country / homeland / nation."

The idea that it's "ok" to initiate violence by attacking a person or a group is literally insane, just as violent response to such an attack by the victim is entirely sane. If you cleave to the idea that initiating violent assault is a negotiating tactic, you need to just shut the fuck up when consequences rattle downhill and wash over you.

I can understand why the Israelis did this; I can also understand why they violated national sovereignty and descended upon Entebbe, why they bombed the nuclear reactor being constructed in a neighboring Muslim state, and why they bulldoze entire neighborhoods from time to time.

I would also note that in spite of all the bullshit they've been subjected to by the moron Arabs, Muslims and Palestinians, you can still be Arab and Muslim and Palestinian and walk around free in Israel; you might keep that in mind next time you throw a tantrum about those nasty Israelis. They're still showing considerable restraint, IMHO.

i don't care about jewish problems, i could care less if israel disappeared off the face of the earth

there are more sikhs in this world than jews, and therefore, to me, sikh problems are more important to me than jewish problems

it's a democratic thing, you know?

anyway, i had to say that to say this:

the real problem in this world right now is the rise of militant fundamentalism

jewish fundamentalism
muslim fundamentalism
christian fundamentalism

morons, who believe that muslims wouldn't be turning to fundamentalism if it weren't for israel, and of course, it's us support, miss out on the truth

fundamentalism is not caused by anything

fundamentalism is THE cause of all of our problems

fundamentalism of the jewish, christian and moslem varieties

fundamentalism is the original sin

it is a CAUSE, not an EFFECT

as if muslim bigots or christian bigots or jewish bigots need an excuse to consider as subhuman anyone who doesn't believe in their narrow creed?

really? do you really understand what fundamentalism is? you're not HUMAN to these assholes if you don't believe their claptrap, therefore, they have every right to KILL YOU like a fucking head of cattle: to them, same thing

but of course, the problem is that people actually believe if you manipulate certain conditions that fundamentalists complain about, you relieve the situation and everything goes peaceful

fucking bullshit

you've just rewarded fundamentalists for their evil actions by doing that, so they do it some more

do you reward kidnappers for kidnapping people and give them their ransom?

really? welcome to a whole new crop of kidnappers then! because you've just said crime pays!

so what do you do?

you fucking kill fundamentalists, and you create conditions which breed less of them: democracy

what fucking blows my mind is assholes in the west who say it is the "crusading" christians or jews who create problems for the suffering muslims and turn them into fundamentalists

fucking pure unadulterated bullshit

have you ever looked at what fundamentalist moslems believe?

it's the same fucking constrictive freedom destroying shit that christian and jewish fundamentalists believe!

so how come some of you assholes can't see that ALL fundamentalists are the problem, of ALL flavors? and therefore fight all of them WITH NO FUCKING EXCUSES

fundamentalism is a CAUSE, NEVER AN EFFECT

you say you can condemn them all?

so why the FUCK do some of you fucking morons give muslim fundamentalists a pass for what you regularly condemn christian or jewish "crusaders" for???!!!

all fucking three varieties of fundamentalist asshoels need to be destroyed

EQUALLY

PERIOD

CARRY THAT THOUGHT TO IT'S FULL CONCLUSION AND STOP TALKING ABOUT FASCIST FUNDAMENTALIST BUSH WHEN YOU SAY FUCKING NOTHING OF PRE-2003 IRAQ AND PRESENT DAY IRAN

bush is an ELECTED head of a DEMOCRATIC country

bush is fucking rich frat boy MORON, but he most certainly is NOT a FASCIST or a FUNDAMENTALIST you fucking stupid propagandized retards, capisce?

iran? it's an actual STATED fucking THEOCRACY building NUKES for crying out loud

doesn't that fucking bother you a LOT fucking more that retard bush who will be gone in 2008???????!!!!!!!!!!!

so stop fucking condemning the fight against moslem fundamentalists

see this shit?

same crap, different religion!!!!!!!!!!!

ALL fundamentalists must be fought

STOP GIVING SOME FLAVORS A PASS BECAUSE THEY ARE "POOR SUFFERING VICTIMS"

fucking BULLSHIT

fundamentalists of ANY flavor are the fucking VILLAINS

they aren't VICTIMS of ANYTHING if they are busy blowing up civilians

do you fucking understand?

some of you fucks most clearly do not