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The G8 comes to Scotland - and so does Bob. (Op-Ed)

By werebear
Tue Jun 14th, 2005 at 10:57:38 AM EST

Politics

The G8 summit is to be held at the exclusive Gleneagles golf resort near St. Andrews this year - a chance for the great and good of the eight leading world industrialised nations to get together in luxurious surroundings to discuss the important issues of the day.

The UK is hosting the event this year and one of the main themes is expected to center around relieving third world debt. (Or not, as the case may be).

For those of you who follow the regular pro-celebrity rioting competition that tends to attend G8 and WTO summits in recent years (Genoa, Seattle,Davos) this years Scottish event promises to make life highly entertaining for anyone living in the vicinity.


Heavy defenses, including two fully encircling 10-foot high steel fences are being erected around the Gleneagles Hotel. Over 5000 police officers have been drafted in from all over Scotland and England. Rumour has it that army units (including the Hereford hiking club) are being discreetly positioned nearby ‘just-in-case’ things get out of hand. It would after all be so terribly embarrasing for the G8 party to be overrun by smelly crusties and anarchists while Her Majesty’s Government is responsible for it. That just wouldn’t do.

Residents of nearby Auchterarder are apprehensive of the potential prospect of their tiny sleepy village becoming a battlefield between anti-globalisation protestors and the forces of law and order/totalitarian repression (this is a multiple choice, take your pick)

To be honest I don’t think Auchterarder needs to worry too much. If there is going to be trouble it is not going to be where the government have focused all their attention and security assets. It’s going to be in Edinburgh, which just happens to be the nearest city to the summit and also where I just happen to live. Specifically I happen to live quite close to the centre of the city just off what has been designated as the main demo assembly points and marching routes.

Fun fact – the city of Edinburgh has been assigned about a third of the police strength that Gleneagles (ONE hotel) is getting. Edinburgh is what passes for the financial and corporate captial of Scotland.
At present theres the definite feeling that we now have a big ‘RIOT ME’ sign stuck to our backs.

Hypothetically, if I were planning to cause trouble and smash McDonalds windows I wouldn’t be doing it right under the noses of the riot police. I’d be planning to do it in the middle of a city where there are a smaller number of police who are already overstretched dealing with the peaceful protestors (which in turn you can hide amoungst.)

The worry about this has been increased tenfold over the last week. This is since Sir Bob Geldof’s spur-of-the-moment decision to launch his crusade to encourage 1,000,000 (‘One meeelion’) protestors to cross the English channel Dunkirk style in small boats, march up the country and descend on Edinburgh for the Live8 http://www.live8live.com/ soft-rock concert and demo on June 6th.

Don’t get me wrong – the guy has done great things in the past. I just don’t think that this was one of his better ideas. The problem is we can’t handle a million people here at the same time: no way, no how. ‘You cannae break the laws of physics’ – they won’t all fit. It’s like trying to pour a bottle of wine in to a pint glass (which I watched a very drunken friend try to do recently) – you’re going to end up looking like a prat with lots of red liquid splashed liberally around the surrounding area.

We actually get almost a million people here for the famous Edinburgh festival. Unfortunately, that is a flawed comparison for the visitors are staggered over a period of several weeks and they are not all trying to get to the same place at the same time. Also they tend to be in a fairly good mood most of the time. Likewise at Hogmanay – we know you can fit about 200,000 to 300,000 bodies into the centre of town at the same time before people start to be crushed to death in our terribly picturesque but impractical streets.

 We came very close to this situation about six years ago and thus the Hogmanay event has been ticketed ever since and numbers held well below the danger line. Bear in mind that these were also happy drunken people at a party – not pissed off people at a demonstration.

At the moment many of the financial companies are advising staff to ‘dress casually’ in order to avoid harrasment (Suuure, that will help) – and according to the Scotsman Newspaper several organisations are making plans to pull out and continue operations offsite should events get out of hand. The Scottish parliament is shutting down for the day completely, out of concern for the safety of their staff.

Shops around my neck of the woods have started displaying prominent anti G8/poverty posters – whether out of support or as a talisman of protection against bricks one is not completely certain.
(Rumour has it McDonalds is instead going for steel shutters. Wise of them)

It is true that watching local politicians running around in headless chicken mode trying to cope with the unexpected is slightly entertaining. I just have the horrible presentiment that it’s not going to seem quite so amusing on June 6th.  To be fair to them they did try their best: a large, well-organised ‘Make Poverty History’ protest march is scheduled in Edinburgh for July 2nd, four days beforehand – with the full support of the Scottish Parliament and the British government. Unfortunately the plan was made for only up to 300,000 protestors. Whoops.

The latest fun rumour going around is that we face a critical shortage of Portaloo's– and apparently there are no spare units to be had anywhere in Europe. So theres also the prospect of hundreds of thousands of people camping out in our parks and completely inadaquate sanitation.
(Yes, I’m aware much of the developing world lacks sanitation. I just don’t quite see how turning my neighbourhood into a cesspool is going to help them more than staying at home and donating money to Oxfam instead.)

A friend of mine who is a Doctor at the Edinburgh Royal Infirmary has severe doubts about their ability to cope if anything goes seriously wrong, despite extra staff and ambulances being drafted in from across the country. Actually, the precise way he put it was ‘We’re going to be completely fsucked’.

At the moment I’m trying to work out what I think about all this. I’m not alone – opinion is fairly divided about the whole thing amoung the city’s residents.

On the one hand while I don’t think the G8 is the ‘Evil Globalisation Empire’ I certainly think theres a lot of justification for protest against it. Globalisation might eventually become the ‘tide that lifts all boats’ but it appears to be doing so in an exceedingly uneven manner, and there are still a hell of a lot of people starving to death needlesly all over the world every single day.

Coupled with the fact that the overwhelming majority of the protestors are peaceful people with a genuine greivance and aims that I wholeheartedly support.  

On the other hand I’m fairly reluctant to host a potential riot outside my house, no matter how good the cause. Even more amusingly it is the local residents in this part of Scotland who will ultimately be paying for the dubious privilage not only of hosting the G8 summit but also for the policing and other preparations around it – any any clearup afterwards.

I’ll confess theres an element of whiny NIMBY’ism at play here – but anyone who can tell me they would seriously look forward to this happening anywhere near themselves or their loved ones is going to require a pretty convincing argument.

Given that Edinburgh also relies upon tourism for a great deal of its income, the result of a disastrous G8 protest with casualties telivised worldwide has the potential to damage to local economy even more over the years to some.

However what is at issue here is not really the cost – or the disruption to our nice safe daily routines and nice safe picturesque city. What I fear is that that the message of the make-poverty history demonstration is going to be completely lost if events do go as badly wrong as I think they might, and people are going to get hurt.

It’s very possible that I’m wrong. Maybe Bob won’t get his million protestors and hopefully the demo will be a model of mature and peaceful free democratic protest in action, maybe the G8 leaders will be embarrased into doing something useful for the developing world and maybe nobody will get hurt at all in the process. I certainly hope so – however I’m just ever so slightly dubious about the probability of things working out that way.

In response to criticism Bob Geldof has urged the residents of Edinburgh to throw their doors open to the protestors and put them up. Tell you what Bob – if I can go and kip at your place while this shambles in the making takes place, you can crash in my flat. After all it’s so terribly handy for everything you’re planning.

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The G8 comes to Scotland - and so does Bob. | 123 comments (103 topical, 20 editorial, 0 hidden)
haha (none / 0) (#123)
by soart on Tue Jun 28th, 2005 at 12:43:37 PM EST
(soart123) http://www.etransbest.com/

Coupled with the fact that the overwhelming majority of the protestors are peaceful people with a genuine greivance and aims that I wholeheartedly support.
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Weapons of Glass Destruction (none / 0) (#121)
by crashandburn on Wed Jun 22nd, 2005 at 08:48:00 PM EST
(msar@macs.hw.ac.uk)

It's interesting to see how meticulously the authorities are taking the protest marches in Edinburgh. While on the bus today, I passed the location of the old Napier University science block (1960's style concrete and glass building topped off with a rusty red satellite dish on the roof), and saw workmen inspecting the field and removing every single stone or block that could possibly be used as a projectile.

Seattle Story (none / 0) (#96)
by lucidvein on Thu Jun 16th, 2005 at 09:25:17 PM EST

There is a really good article the the Seattle Weekly that illustrates precisely how unprepared the elected officials in Seattle were for the tremendous turnout. And points out how ineffectively their tactics changed to match those of the protestors.
http://www.seattleweekly.com/features/0522/050601_news_stamper.php
And how's this for reassurance? The head of the local Secret Service office told the mayor and me at a meeting in Schell's office just moments before kickoff: "If things turn to shit it won't be for of a lack of planning." As a matter of fact, he had "never seen a better job of planning and preparation."
<snip>
The mayor was there, so was Washington governor Gary Locke, Chief Annette Sandberg of the Washington State Patrol, King County Sheriff Dave Reichert, and a couple of feds who were in town to do advance work for the president's visit. Clinton was due in late that night. The meeting had one item on its agenda: whether to declare a state of emergency and call in National Guard troops. Tension in the room was palpable, as you might expect with a city under siege. But there was also an undercurrent of something else.

http://www.seattleweekly.com/features/0522/050601_news_stamper_profile.php
The WTO debacle brought down Seattle Police Chief Norm Stamper, one of America's most progressive cops. Now he's published a memoir offering a frank look at his rise and fall, and the challenges of reforming law enforcement.

I expect you are correct though, and like Seattle, Edinburgh becomes the next big news riot. Sorry...

Wonder why they don't just hold these events on a cruise ship or aircraft carrier somewhere away from the cities. Maybe by 2015 they'll be held on the new MoonBase? heh.

Similar situation.... (none / 0) (#77)
by johnnyfever on Wed Jun 15th, 2005 at 01:07:50 PM EST

I'm in Calgary, which was the closest city to the G8 when they held it in the swanky mountain resort not far from here. We had similar concerns at the time. We had a military presence in the city centre and a bunch of extra cops around. The media as usual did a fine job of blowing things out of proportion.

It was a lot of hype for nothing in the end. There were a few demonstrations, but nothing even mildy disruptive all things considered.

Now granted:

  1. There are only a million people in Calgary and there are not a heck of a lot of people within easy travelling distance
  2. Sentiment in the UK might be stronger than it is here - I don't know, it's been a while since I've lived there
  3. We did not have the Bob effect

However:

  1. I don't know the population of Edinburgh, but I don't believe it's that much larger than Calgary.
  2. I would be a bit surprised if the sentiment is that much stronger in Edinburgh than here

So I guess it comes down to how much pull does Geldof actually have, and how many of the millions of people in relatively close proximity to Scotland wil make the effort to show up. Somehow I'll be a wee bit surprised if anything catastrophic happens.

Nice editing job, NOT. (none / 1) (#71)
by OzJuggler on Wed Jun 15th, 2005 at 09:11:29 AM EST
(oandrew@omcrae.name (remove both circles)) http://members.optusnet.com.au/~andrewmcrae/

 Editorial: Couple of corrections... (3.00 / 2) (#4)
by OzJuggler on Mon Jun 13th, 2005 at 02:38:57 PM EAST
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  ..rioting competition that tends to attend G8 and WTO summits in recent years..
Awkward. Revise to:
  ..rioting competition that has accompanied G8 and WTO summits in recent years..

  ...the potential prospect...
You've got a habit of repeating yourself, haven't you? A prospect is potential. Revise to:
  ...the prospect...

  ..law and order/totalitarian repression (this is a multiple choice, take your pick)
End the sentence on "repression" and make the meta comment a sentence of its own (but keep the brackets if you want).

  "Portaloo's" is an error for which you should be put to death - but I'll let you off since you used the word "presentiment" earlier. Remove the apostrophe please. Put the hyperlink on Portaloo and put an 's' straight after it.

  I'll confess theres an element of whiny NIMBY'ism...
Put an apostrophe where one is needed, and remove the apostrophe from your newly invented word. The apostrophe predominantly shows omission, and there is no omission in NIMBYism. Yes I know what NIMBY means, the capital letters should be enough.

  ...damage to local economy...
to --> the

  shambles in the making
Hyphenate it.

 ...criticism Bob...
Insert comma.

Spelling errors:
"amoungst", "amoung", "privilage", "greivance", "telivised"

Those last couple of paragraphs are a bit whiny, so maybe consolidate them or delete one. Overall not too bad for your first story. Good to hear something from The Rest Of The World® for a change.

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You didn't even fix the spelling errors.
Dunno why I bothered really.
Actually, why DO I still bother reading k5? I must be insane thinking that it will ever improve.

OzJuggler.
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Over 2 million innocents died waiting for a light at the end of a tunnel that only ended with the occupation of our country and the theft of our resources.

Globalization... (3.00 / 3) (#58)
by Znork on Tue Jun 14th, 2005 at 05:43:33 PM EST

... in a free market would be great. It's just not what we're seeing today. The current version is cheap labour enclaves that get a very small economic gain due to competition, while western consumers get miniscule price reductions due to intellectual property protectionism.

In between sits the branding corps who are becoming paragons of economic inefficiency, rivalling the worst civil services and Soviet state monopolies in wasting money and resources, creating nothing of actual value to society or consumers.

Adam Smith would be spinning in his grave.

just clear out the riff-raff with bagpipes (nt) (none / 0) (#54)
by pyramid termite on Tue Jun 14th, 2005 at 04:35:51 PM EST
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Who cares about Edinburgh? (3.00 / 4) (#51)
by josefk on Tue Jun 14th, 2005 at 02:29:53 PM EST

The Pink Floyd line-up will be performing at the London show. All hail Bob!

It's a shame... (2.66 / 3) (#48)
by jonradoff on Tue Jun 14th, 2005 at 02:03:15 PM EST
(jonradoff_dontspam@yahoo_nospamkthx)

...that any valid points anti-globalizations activists might make are submerged beneath their shrill, incoherent hooliganism.


Oh pipe down (3.00 / 3) (#43)
by Nyarlathotep on Tue Jun 14th, 2005 at 11:37:25 AM EST
http://havoc.gtf.org/weasel

It won't be anything you hav'nt seen before.  1 million anti-globalization protestors ain't nothing compaired to Manchester United paying you a visit.  Just don't wear a suit (wrong team colors), and you will be fine.  :)

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ANARCHY FOREVER (none / 1) (#22)
by tweetsybefore on Mon Jun 13th, 2005 at 07:21:33 PM EST

LETS TRASH EDINBURGH!

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Why do people bother? (3.00 / 2) (#20)
by Egil Skallagrimson on Mon Jun 13th, 2005 at 02:53:47 PM EST
http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2005/6/5/21462/73835

The idea of protesting is so Romantic and stunted that I can't see the point.  Sure, have an opinion, but there is no real change that comes from anything of that low-calibre activism.

Also, I have never heard any argument that made the idea of globalization seem bad.  If anything, Globalization is happening slowly through the internet anyway.

rotesting the G8 seems like nothing but short-term panic against a long-term problem.  And by violently protesting, as they did when the WTO came to Montreal, they only make their point that much more stunted.

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Didn't George W. Bush and Tony Blair... (2.25 / 4) (#17)
by bobpence on Mon Jun 13th, 2005 at 09:21:52 AM EST
(moc.liamg@ecnep.bob)

... just give Mr. Geldof what he wanted, despite my opposition? I read where Bob wanted debt forgiveness for African nations that do not currently happen to be dictatorships, and that his daughter is hot. Apparently the $40 Billion represents the total indebtedness of these 14 African nations (four more are in S. America), and frankly to we nations with a lot of trade, 40 Billion is chump change. We get it from the taxpaying chumps, and we have plenty of those.

Because of trade.

Because of trade that produces the Middle Class that the Left is afraid GWB is destroying in the U.S., but that apparently they don't want to see rise in Africa because having vast income diffentials among a megarich and an ultrapoor class is far too useful a polemical device.

Because of trade that Europe stifles while holding out the possibility they might just buy grain grown in Africa if, that is, none of this terrible Genetically Modified Evil-But-Only-Siths-Deal-In-Absolutes Bushitler Roveatsbabies Frankenfood is anywhere on the same continent where it might, I don't know, help feed starving children.

But like payday loans, this is easy to give, easy to get. And repeat business is virtually guaranteed. Higher paychecks are the hard thing to find.


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fighting globalism (2.00 / 4) (#6)
by circletimessquare on Mon Jun 13th, 2005 at 12:21:40 AM EST
(at gmail dot com)

is like fighting the rising and setting of the sun

let's go put the internet and jet air travel and radio etc. back in the bottle

if you are going to fight something, fight something that might make a difference


He who desires but acts not, breeds pestilence.
- William Blake


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