GMail Code Hints at Coming Feature

Looking at the GMail's javascript source gives a pretty good hint that Google is developing a service that will let you use GMail as a server rather than just a client, similar to what Yahoo provides. This article walks us through what he has found and imagines how a service like this would work.

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  1. I would pay for this service in a heartbeat. I despise running mail servers, and most of the people I host domains for only use a few email addresses at most. I hope this comes soon.
    bstanfield posted by bstanfield (1) at 01:33 PM 2/08/06 score:
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  2. I'd be all over this for my domains, and we'd push for the company to switch to it too =)
    foooey posted by foooey (2) at 01:35 PM 2/08/06 score:
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  3. I would seriously consider doing this too, as long as I can deal with wildcard users in my domain. That is the way I manage most of my spam is by giving out single use, or company specific users that end up in my inbox and then have users that are abused on my dump list, so I never see them.
    kitsonk posted by kitsonk (0) at 01:36 PM 2/08/06 score:
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  4. Google is going to take over the planet!!
    sintax posted by sintax (0) at 01:40 PM 2/08/06 score:
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  5. Freakin' awesome. I would so love to have gmail manage my domain's email. Would make things *tons* simpler.
    Otto posted by Otto (1) at 01:41 PM 2/08/06 score:
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  6. gMailServer ftw!
    revoked posted by revoked (0) at 01:42 PM 2/08/06 score:
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  7. umm... GMail IS a server AND a client... already... ::reads article:: Oh, you mean a mail server for a domain.
    wallphone posted by wallphone (0) at 01:47 PM 2/08/06 score:
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  8. you can use your domain for gmail right NOW if you have a domain and website. although, not as slick as googles final solution i am sure:

    #1: forward all email from accountyouwant@yourdomain.com to youraccount@gmail.com via your webhost cpanel.

    #2: under ACCOUNTS in gmail add accountyouwant@yourdomain.com

    #3: receive email (right in your gmail inbox) and activate.

    #4: you can now receive and send (drop down menu when composing email) from ANY email address you want... from ANY domain you control.
    TomPetty posted by TomPetty (0) at 01:49 PM 2/08/06 score:
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  9. this would be super. i would heart gmail more.
    tmcpheeters posted by tmcpheeters (0) at 01:49 PM 2/08/06 score:
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  10. ^^ note. i use gmail for all my email from 3 different domains. its nice to have all in one spot.
    TomPetty posted by TomPetty (0) at 01:50 PM 2/08/06 score:
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  11. nice
    geuis posted by geuis (4) at 01:52 PM 2/08/06 score:
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  12. this is pretty cool! nice find!
    lvlolvlo posted by lvlolvlo (0) at 01:57 PM 2/08/06 score:
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  13. This is awsome!

    Google shall rule the world one day...
    atrain posted by atrain (0) at 02:08 PM 2/08/06 score:
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  14. I kinda doubt Google is going to roll out a feature that requires "adding an MX record to your DNS"
    panique posted by panique (0) at 02:08 PM 2/08/06 score:
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  15. Hey, OT, but check this out.

    Go to google using IE, then using Firefox.

    I can now use the sidebar thing to scroll through all the google features using IE, but not in Firefox.

    You get the same thing?
    nazuraki posted by nazuraki (4) at 02:13 PM 2/08/06 score:
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  16. If google did release this, the verge of the Google movement would shift considerably. When a company like google host's sites / mail server's and mangage company mail... kiss outlook good buy. "1 major software distrobution done. only a few more to go!"
    _jinx_ posted by _jinx_ (17) at 02:15 PM 2/08/06 score:
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  17. Ooooh, and Google Chats is now live.
    nazuraki posted by nazuraki (4) at 02:16 PM 2/08/06 score:
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  18. Does this have something to do with http://base.google.com/

    I think it may.
    conorryan posted by conorryan (0) at 02:18 PM 2/08/06 score:
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  19. key words "... like yahoo provides.." facial.
    aforonda posted by aforonda (0) at 02:19 PM 2/08/06 score:
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  20. So what? Many other email providers have been offering domain hosting for years (fastmail.fm, mailsnare, runbox, to name just a few). Powerful email existed long before Gmail and these services are still way more powerful than the mainstream oh-we-love-everything-you-do Gmail
    ijacquesx posted by ijacquesx (0) at 02:31 PM 2/08/06 score:
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  21. i've been waiting on this. i've almost switched to yahoo mail for this very feature. i hope it comes soon.
    outz posted by outz (0) at 02:34 PM 2/08/06 score:
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  22. No digg. Caribou is an old codename for Gmail when it was in alpha. Might be legacy code.
    weirdbro posted by weirdbro (0) at 02:38 PM 2/08/06 score:
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  23. So, I can either use normal e-mail on my domain, or I can have google do it and lose pop3?
    rooke posted by rooke (0) at 02:40 PM 2/08/06 score:
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  24. Not only have others been providing this service, even MS appears to have this up and running on live.com

    http://ideas.live.com/programpage.aspx?versionId=11b1081d-cfb0-4511-acb5-55db6b49f7de

    I have a gmail addy and an old hotmail addy via live mail beta, and I like the MS version much more, looks similar to the yahoo beta, don't have a yahoo account though to compare.

    I get the feeling everyone is gunning for google and at present google is riding on its good rep a little too much, execution of late has seemed below competitors IMO.
    andocom posted by andocom (0) at 02:40 PM 2/08/06 score:
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  25. As TomPetty points out, you have been able to do this with GMail for some time and it works really well. Which makes me wonder why people like the Rev3 guys, who obviously use Gmail, dont just have fans@diggnation.com point to diggnationfans@gmail.com
    smbut4 posted by smbut4 (0) at 02:45 PM 2/08/06 score:
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  26. do we WANT GOOG to take over the world?? I don't. Do you really want ALL of you domain's email churning through their servers - were EVERYTHING is read, logged and neatly tucked away for future use?

    Those who say "we're not evil", typically turn out to be......
    bubbatex posted by bubbatex (0) at 02:47 PM 2/08/06 score:
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  27. Awesome, now the government can get my entire email history with one simple phone call to Google!
    SilverRocket posted by SilverRocket (2) at 02:50 PM 2/08/06 score:
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  28. Off topic, but still dealing with Google..

    There was a news story on the front page a couple minutes ago titled something like "Looks like Google has hired a graphics designer." And the summary was about how Google might be redesigning some of their sites (Google video?) and how Kevin and someone else can't complain about the lack of design anymore.

    Anyway, ITS GONE. I reloaded Diggs front page, intending to click on this story right after, and it dissapeard. Ive done a couple searches for it, and looked further down the front page for it.. but it's GONE.

    It had over 500 Diggs.. what happened??
    dawgma posted by dawgma (1) at 02:58 PM 2/08/06 score:
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  29. I use gmail to forward my roadrunner email to for the spam filters.. The gmail spam filters have cut my spam waaaaayyyyy down and I haven't had a false positive yet. Now if I could just get the spam from signing up for a free mac mini then I'd be doing real good...
    jrsmith posted by jrsmith (0) at 03:04 PM 2/08/06 score:
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  30. Been using a similar feature at live.com for months.
    lavalva posted by lavalva (0) at 03:09 PM 2/08/06 score:
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  31. Look for Gmail to appear as an enterprise solution, the Google Mail Appliance, just like they do with search. It's also a perfect companion to Google Toolbar for Enterprise, Google Desktop for Enterprise, and Google Earth Enterprise (lucky M'fers that have this :-)
    http://www.google.com/enterprise/
    bradspry posted by bradspry (0) at 03:16 PM 2/08/06 score:
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  32. >As TomPetty points out, you have been able to do this with GMail for some time and it >works> really well. Which makes me wonder why people like the Rev3 guys, who obviously >use Gmail, dont just have fans@diggnation.com point to diggnationfans@gmail.com

    The issue with TomPetty's method is, when you do this, most other (gmail doesn't) mail programs will show "Sent on Behalf Of xxx@gmail.com" - which a lot of people don't even know that it is sending out, could cause some problems.
    isepic posted by isepic (0) at 03:21 PM 2/08/06 score:
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  33. Thanks, but I prefer running my own server - even for personal use.
    seumas posted by seumas (1) at 03:45 PM 2/08/06 score:
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  34. Ummm... I have been using GMAIL as a SMTP and POP(ssl) server for a long time..

    This is pretty well know as a good way to get around restricive ISP's who block outgoing port 25. The gmail servers even support addition ports to get around most any filtering.

    Here is how:
    http://email.about.com/od/gmailtips/qt/et010605.htm

    milo_hoffman posted by milo_hoffman (2) at 03:58 PM 2/08/06 score:
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  35. > Awesome, now the government can get my entire email history with one simple phone call to Google!

    ... ummm, aren't google the only search engine who *weren't* handing over information?
    Shish posted by Shish (0) at 04:05 PM 2/08/06 score:
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  36. Actually it was AOL who cared more about their customers..
    milo_hoffman posted by milo_hoffman (2) at 04:06 PM 2/08/06 score:
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  37. Can't you see this is in prep for replacing AOL Mail. I mean AOL mail is pretty useful (AJAX like), but the thing just darn crashes every other day.

    With the AOL hook-up I see AOL googlify their whole site and ridding AOL of the awful fat client that it famous for. That will benefit AOL greatly and give google more visibility.
    cwcentral posted by cwcentral (0) at 04:26 PM 2/08/06 score:
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  38. I cannot wait. I really hope they start offering IMAP.
    cavicster posted by cavicster (0) at 04:48 PM 2/08/06 score:
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  39. I just sent the following to the author of the zdnet article. He's wrong about Caribou...

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    I think you may be a bit off track.

    At an O'Reilly eTech (Emerging Technology) conference last year in San Diego, I happened to end up sitting next to Peter Norvig -- Google's Director of Research http://www.norvig.com/ -- as he typed away on his laptop. I couldn't help but notice he was using an email client called "Caribou" for what appeared to be his work email client. I also noticed it was *very* similar to Gmail, which by then was widely available. Caribou appears to be Google's internal email client, used by all of its Employees. It doesn't surprise me that you would find reference to that name within Gmail's code.

    Maybe you're on to something with the "manage this domain" bit, but I think you get off track when concentrating on the Caribou reference. It could even be that the domain management code is used within Google to manage their own internal domains and subdomains, which their various divisions may use with Caribou...

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    goldenratio posted by goldenratio (2) at 05:01 PM 2/08/06 score:
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  40. "Off topic, but still dealing with Google..

    There was a news story on the front page a couple minutes ago titled something like "Looks like Google has hired a graphics designer." And the summary was about how Google might be redesigning some of their sites (Google video?) and how Kevin and someone else can't complain about the lack of design anymore.

    Anyway, ITS GONE. I reloaded Diggs front page, intending to click on this story right after, and it dissapeard. Ive done a couple searches for it, and looked further down the front page for it.. but it's GONE.

    It had over 500 Diggs.. what happened??"


    Interesting...I notice it's no longer in my profile either. So much for the lamed-off-the-fp excuse.
    radicand posted by radicand (1) at 05:18 PM 2/08/06 score:
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  41. radicand

    I'm glad you replied. I just realized Digg needs a general forum to talk about stuff like this!

    So I'm guessing you dugg this story, and it dissapeared from your profile history as well? That's very odd. Sounds like it was taken down by an admin...?

    What was the story about anyway, were there screenshots of a leaked design?
    dawgma posted by dawgma (1) at 06:08 PM 2/08/06 score:
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  42. Here's a direct link to that article you mention...
    Gala posted by Gala (7) at 06:29 PM 2/08/06 score:
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  43. Gala posted by Gala (7) at 06:29 PM 2/08/06 score:
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  44. Guys... Google is a domain registrar now.... thats what its for duhhhhh. Now if only they will get rid of the sent on behalf of youraccount@gmail.com shite
    troyDoogle7 posted by troyDoogle7 (1) at 06:38 PM 2/08/06 score:
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  45. google is getting slower and slower with their new services...

    http://ideas.live.com/programpage.aspx?versionId=11b1081d-cfb0-4511-acb5-55db6b49f7de

    google is starting to get out-hustled more and more these days
    boohoo posted by boohoo (0) at 06:42 PM 2/08/06 score:
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  46. Thanks Gala.

    So then the admins must not have had anything to do with the dissapearence... it must just be a glitch. But I still can't find this article through search... how did you access the digg URL, Gala?

    Also.. talk like this is better suited for a message board. I hope Digg gets one soon!
    dawgma posted by dawgma (1) at 07:04 PM 2/08/06 score:
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  47. Thankfully someone blogged about it... I did a simple blogsearch on Google

    http://blogsearch.google.com/blogsearch?hl=en&q;=google+graphic+designer&btnG;=Search+Blogs
    Gala posted by Gala (7) at 07:08 PM 2/08/06 score:
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  48. "Awesome, now the government can get my entire email history with one simple phone call to Google!"

    You give yourself to much credit. There are a quarter billion people in the United States. The government has neither the interest nor resources to get everyone and their brother's Gmail/Search History/Whatever ... Let your so-called privacy issue go.
    bcnewman posted by bcnewman (0) at 07:53 PM 2/08/06 score:
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  49. Very resourceful Gala :)

    I've notified digg support about this missing story.

    (and asked about a message board too!)
    dawgma posted by dawgma (1) at 08:56 PM 2/08/06 score:
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  50. i think its amazing that three famous celebrities read digg.
    David Lee Roth, A Train, and Tom Petty. You go Tom!
    davidleeroth posted by davidleeroth (0) at 09:40 PM 2/08/06 score:
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  51. I predicted this a few days ago when they decided to integrate Instant Messaging into Gmail. You can read my full post here:
    http://www.cjmillisock.com/2006/02/gmail-integrated-with-google-talk_07.html
    chesterjosiah posted by chesterjosiah (0) at 06:58 AM 2/09/06 score:
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  52. Good Gawd, Gyou Gnerds Gare Ghopeless.

    Google This. Google That.

    FARGH!
    jo42 posted by jo42 (0) at 12:16 PM 2/09/06 score:
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  53. Google = spyware
    tzmartin posted by tzmartin (0) at 07:56 PM 2/10/06 score:
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