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Posted by scobleizer // Tue, Oct 18, 2005 4:19 PM
This is the first of a series of videos we'll have on the Xbox 360 over the next few months.
You might think that the Xbox 360 is only a game machine. But, here you'll learn it's a lot more than a game machine and that when you plug a Media Center and an Xbox 360 together you get a new kind of entertainment system.
Here, Jeff of the Xbox team, and David, of the Media Center team, tell you about their team's work and the future of media in your home.
If you already have a Media Center, you'll want to get the new Update Rollup 2, released yesterday. It lets you use your Media Center together with the Xbox 360.
Unfortunately this video will not be available to download until Monday. For more, read Charlie Owen's blog -- he works on the Media Center team.
Tags: Windows+Vista, Windows+Media, Xbox, Windows Media Center
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Wow, I can watch videos on up to *5* TVs simulatenously! What a technological marvel!
Oh sorry.... I meant to say "What an artificial limit". 
Shame the 360 wont support DivX/XVid ... Guess I will have to wait 6 months until its hacked. 
Other than that, Media Centre in the 360 is a great idea.
PS. When are we getting a video on TCM (Trusted Computing Group/Module/Platform) and how the corporations are going to lock down our access to media? Guess thats not quite the sort of feel-good press MS wants on channel 9.
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Just got the roll-up.. One thing I can't figure out: why didn't Microsoft add a function for recording *radio* as well as TV? There are programs on NPR that I'd love to record..
I can't imagine that would be that difficult to do..
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Very interesting interview. Being a Media Center user I am completely thrilled with the potential the XBOX 360 has to integrate.
One question that I have is whether the XBOX 360 will also stream the Live TV feed by hijacking the tuner (I have dual tuner). While I typically just watch prerecorded tv (I can't watch tv without jumping over the commercials  ), sometimes I just want to watch live tv and love the ability to pause it. Of course the XBOX 360 would likely be hooked up to a tv far away from my media center and that tv won't allow me to pause a show; so to get around that I would just watch tv using the tuner from the media center.
Is this even possible?
Cheers,
Clint
PS. Will get get to see some videos where the Xbox 360 is demoed including its Media Center extender capabilities?
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LightRider
I find it kinda funny, I find it kinda sad
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What's with the jump-cut at 14:40ish?
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Why doesn't the Media Center remote support voice control? For example, I would like to press a button ( and/or maybe use a trigger word?) and speak "ESPN" or "Discovery Channel" and have it automatically jump to that channel. I don't know why music devices don't do this either, but I guess their excuse is that it takes to much CPU.. but in the case here, the voice recognition can be offloaded so media center does the actual voice processing logic.
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 | MisterDonut wrote:
Just got the roll-up.. One thing I can't figure out: why didn't Microsoft add a function for recording *radio* as well as TV? There are programs on NPR that I'd love to record..
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Pretty sure that's for legal/copyright reasons...
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| LightRider wrote:
What's with the jump-cut at 14:40ish? |
Sorry for the edit. The guy I was filming realized he said something wrong about HDTV resolutions and wanted that pulled.
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LightRider
I find it kinda funny, I find it kinda sad
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It's interesting that you can't take screen caps... Did he mean that for the whole system or just the media presentation portion? What if I wanted to take a screenshot of something that happens in Halo3? I can take screenshots in my PC games, is it so difficult to do so on the XBox?
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Glad to see they'll have HD VOD movie downloads for the 360. I was worried that it would be restricted to Media Center Users.
Now, we need to begin thinking about acquiring content for that service. Or producing it ourselves.
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I wish they'd stop pushing 802.11a. It's ancient technology.
I recommend users to buy "Pre-N" devices. Way faster than g/a, way better range, and less interference.
Oh and Scoble, don't take HDTV advice from those guys. A 720p native set like my Samsung DLP is the lowest you'd want to get.
But nowadays there are 1080p DLPs shipping with much better black levels and of course a much higher resolution (with continued support for 720p and 1080i, etc).
If I were looking today, I'd be looking at an HL-R5078w like this one:
http://www.crutchfieldadvisor.com/ISEO-rgbtcspd/reviews/20051004/samsung_tv.html
They can be had for $2500ish if you look around.
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i love the x360's mcx ... but i want to know somehting
WHERE THE HECK IS MY channel9 plugin for streaming to my mce and mcx???? i want to watch some C9 TV at night
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| MisterDonut wrote:
Just got the roll-up.. One thing I
can't figure out: why didn't Microsoft add a function for recording
*radio* as well as TV? There are programs on NPR that I'd love to
record..
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While that may be an interesting feature, I don't thing they want to
get into it with the RIAA over music right now, Recording TV shows has much more cover
because we already have a huge assortment of Tivo/PVR-DVR/VHS devices
that XBox 360 would just be one more in the fray.
Besides most NPR shows are podcast now anyway.
http://www.npr.org/rss/podcast/podcast_directory.php
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Now that you're done with the Introduction, how about a "deep" series of Xbox 360? I would like to get a tour inside the box with a discussion about the process of planning and engineering a console goes - including design/choices made and how did MS choose the CPU and how was the needed features for the graphics chip figured out etc. And then another video about the software side, including sdk / xna (will future PC games be playable only with Xbox controller?) and some game Xbox 360 developer. 
One thing that was not addressed in this video was - I think 802.11a frequencies are in government or other restricted use in some countries.
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I was just reading about how the Hollywood unions (SAG, DGA, etc.) have sent a letter to major producers, wanting to get a cut of profits for online VOD sales.
Why?
Because Steve Jobs/Disney announced that popular shows like "Desperate Housewives" and "Lost" will be available as paid downloads on the Video Ipod.
Here's the question I'd pose to the MCE and Xbox teams: why are we waiting for Steve Jobs to take the initiative in this area?
The only reason the Hollywood guilds are being aggressive, is because they perceive that the Apple business model works.
I've got a real problem with this.
The Video Ipod is a sad little device, in my opinion. It only stores in standard def - it's umbilically connected to the iTunes music store for downloads. But Hollywood has embraced Apple because they've got a business model which works, an established distribution network, and a very strong following among paying consumers of entertainment content.
The Xbox 360 (with or without the MCE connection) is a media-streaming monster. And it's always located right next to my HD television.
So why don't we hear about Microsoft's business model? When will we hear about the deal Xbox is making with Disney/ABC? Is there one? How about deals with the studios for movie content?
And no, I'm not talking about passive "carrier" partnerships. This is about tapping into PPV revenue streams.
Because if I could purchase a Hi-def version of ABC's "Lost" on Xbox VOD - then I wouldn't think twice about the new Video Ipod.
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Cool! Now even more things to consider configuring.
- Steve
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Anychance of a downloadable version?
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| androidi wrote:
Now that you're done with the Introduction, how
about a "deep" series of Xbox 360? I would like to get a tour inside
the box with a discussion about how the process of how planning and
engineering a console - design/choices made, like how MS ended up with
that CPU and how was the needed features for the graphics chip figured
out etc. And then another video about the software side, including sdk
/ xna (will future PC games be playable only with Xbox
controller?) and some game Xbox 360 developer.
One thing
that was not addressed in this video was - I think 802.11a
frequencies are in government or other restricted use in some countries.
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This the man with the plan.
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MisterDonut wrote:
Just got the roll-up.. One thing I can't figure out: why didn't Microsoft add a function for recording *radio* as well as TV? There are programs on NPR that I'd love to record..
I can't imagine that would be that difficult to do.. |
Pretty sure that's for legal/copyright reasons... |
Not that you're wrong, but I fail to see how this is an issue when I can record TV and Movies.
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<quote>One question that I have is whether the XBOX 360 will also stream the Live TV feed</quote>
Yes, this is possible. You can do it today with MCE 2005 + any extender, including the current Xbox (1) Extender. It works great on my system and that is running over 802.11g by the way for those that say you can't have anything less than "pre-n" speeds for an acceptable experience.
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| BHpaddock wrote:
I wish they'd stop pushing 802.11a. It's ancient technology.
I recommend users to buy "Pre-N" devices. Way faster than g/a, way better range, and less interference.
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Interesting, were you having a great deal of troubles with g/a devices? I've been running my MCE/Extender setup over a g wireless connection (my laptops, etc on the a), which includes watching Live TV and DVD's that are spinning on my computer two floors up and never had a problem. That's with it sitting next to my wireless phone and also with my Sonos wireless network in the mix.
I actually push 802.11a quite a bit because it's mature, stable, I've never had any problems with it and it's standardized. I'm just curious what problems you were having since I've never had one and it's always good to know what to look for.
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Oh and Scoble, don't take HDTV advice from those guys. A 720p native set like my Samsung DLP is the lowest you'd want to get.
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How does your DLP look when pumping SDTV through it? I'm thinking of upgrading strictly for my 360 from a SD set but I don't watch TV enough to warrent paying $50/month for a HDTV so that leaves with with the few OTA and mostly SD.
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Why can't you make a Media Center PC in same form factor and as quiet as an XBox? For that matter, why did you not just add Media Center into the XBox instead of just making it a client. It is faster then any other Media Center on market. Then I could just buy an xbox for my living room and hook that up to the INet and sound system and one in each bed room using the extender function.
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William
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| burtriddley wrote:
Anychance of a downloadable version?
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The download is now up.
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| staceyw wrote:
Why can't you make a Media Center PC in same form factor and as quiet as an XBox? For that matter, why did you not just add Media Center into the XBox instead of just making it a client. It is faster then any other Media Center on market. Then I could just buy an xbox for my living room and hook that up to the INet and sound system and one in each bed room using the extender function.
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Who says they won't make it into a full-fledged Media Center? The only thing missing is a TV Tuner and they could add that using one of the 3 available USB ports.
I think that just might be possible - especially considering the latest news that there will probably be hard drives available eventually for the 360 at 40-80GB.
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| staceyw wrote:
Why can't you make a Media Center PC in same form factor and as quiet as an XBox? For that matter, why did you not just add Media Center into the XBox instead of just making it a client. It is faster then any other Media Center on market. Then I could just buy an xbox for my living room and hook that up to the INet and sound system and one in each bed room using the extender function.
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MCE is a general purpose PC, XBOX 360 is not and would be more expensive if it were. There are MCEs on the market that are quiet and come in consumer electronics form factors (Expect more of these in the Intel Viiv/Windows Vista timeframe). Some examples linked below:
http://www.windowsmarketplace.com/Results.aspx?collID=99
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