CSharpener
  JTobler
 
  Wed, Jun 30 2004 2:15 PM
These days, C# is my favorite language for earning a living.  My favorite languages for *fun* are Smalltalk, Python, Ruby, Scheme, SML, etc.  Actually, my favorite language has not been invented yet and I am searching for it arduously!


  MrGort
  MrGort
 
  Wed, Jun 30 2004 2:31 PM
I havent seen anything that's 'better' than C. I enjoyed ASM, but I agree it was very time consuming.

C++, VB, MFC, .Net, etc all sacrifice the coder's freedom to do what he/she wants in the name of OOP.

I guess it was assumed that it's beneficial if these languages could 'hide' some of the complexities of coding in structures and inforced methodologies. To free up the User to 'code the meat of a project' as I've seen it put so often.

All it really did for me was make me spend more time and resources retooling to do my job than actually doing my job. And of course having to find all the 'work arounds' for the things I needed to do that the snazzy language couldnt or wouldnt provide.

But I think it's still primarily a question of what you used first and most. If you learn a tool well, you tend to work better with that tool. My first tools were ASM and C. After them it was downhill for me. ;-)

  harumscarum
  Click to activate and use this caption
 
  Wed, Jun 30 2004 6:04 PM
I never realized I had a favorite language until I did a freebie web site for a family friend in c#. At my day job everything is in vb.net so I did c# just for the fun of it. After I finished the web site (or at least thought I was) I recoded everything in vb.net because it was just more comfortable to me. I would go with vb.net but that is just because I am most familiar with it.


  Steve411
  Browning HP 9MM
 
  Thu, Jul 1 2004 10:52 PM
The text size on the "Vote" button is a tad bit too small..

  billh
 
 
  Fri, Jul 2 2004 9:07 AM
I don't have a preference, but I heard a co-worker using some really colorful words the other day when they were talking to their computer.  I'm sure what that would count as.

  OldManCoyote
 
 
  Fri, Jul 2 2004 4:33 PM
Only 12% for C++!  Alas for the low level devs...

Where have all, the low level developers gone.
   Long time passing
Where have all, the low level developers gone.
   Long time ago...


  Rucka
  Tiny Evil
 
  Thu, Jul 8 2004 5:45 PM

Now my favorite language is c# but with VS 2005 i think that will be C++ with CLI extension...

Have a nice coding....



  Sam_the_Gardener
  Great x 4 Grand Daddy
 
  Thu, Jul 8 2004 10:56 PM

How about ActionScript with some PHP calls hidden inside???



  TheProgrammer
  Always on edge thinking...
 
  Thu, Sep 15 2005 12:10 PM

C/C++ is my favorite, then C#.



  cryoknight
  Perpetual Monkey Machine
 
  Fri, Jul 23 2004 12:12 AM
My vote:
C with Classes/templates... :)

I learned C++ before the Great Standardization of '98, and alas, haven't picked up the new features
of it yet (like FuncName() = 0).

I use file and console i/o functions from C,
even though I use classes and "//" for comments.


  Kaelan
 
 
  Fri, Jul 23 2004 12:46 AM
Python and C# are pretty high on my list... hard to say which one is my favorite so far, though.


  BlueFirehawk02
  I got the need, the need for speed!
 
  Thu, Aug 5 2004 10:35 AM
You know you're "new school" when you consider C++ "low-level" ;) hehe.

I reminisce about the old days (early 90's lol) deciphering x86 machine code and making my own compiler just for fun... lol. Or even further back... remember LOGO? That damn'd turtle!! baaaahhh!


  Palmeiro
 
 
  Fri, Aug 6 2004 4:36 PM
cwoodruff wrote:
Now that Delphi is .NET complient how about including it?


At last!!! A Delphi programmer.... I'm not alone any more :)


I also use Java for my distributed projects and C++ is a "must know" but i don't use it as often as i use Delphi.


[PT]Palmeiro

  imekon
  I vant to suck your blood!
 
  Tue, Aug 10 2004 5:09 AM
Delphi, of course. Not Delphi.NET



  henningms
 
 
  Tue, Aug 10 2004 3:22 PM
Even though I have used and still use Visual Basic .NET for most stuff, I like C# more, I am used to the syntax and like it much better than Visual Basic. So most of my code in the future will be C# ;)

And, I need to get myself some glasses to see the Vote button, it was kind of small :)

  merc
  Merc
 
  Tue, Aug 10 2004 9:21 PM
C# is proabably the best general purpose language in my opinion but to each language has its purpose. IE: i would pick Assembler or C vs C# to write a device driver or kernel..

  BlueFirehawk02
  I got the need, the need for speed!
 
  Wed, Aug 18 2004 11:06 PM
I don't think I answered in my last post, I'd say C# is quickly becoming my language of choice for Win apps. I'm immersing myself in Whidbey's C#. Haven't even touched the VB.NET side on 2005. Figure since everyone at M$ is learning it I should too. ;)  Oh and I've been doing VB for a while so it's my Win32 lang of choice. VB for ASP.NET... I did write my sockets server code in C/C++ but i've been porting that stuff to C# lately. Really no need anymore for C/C++ in my life. I've written PHP but with the advent of Mono, it's soon to be a moot language IMO.

  DoomBringer
  Doom!
 
  Mon, Nov 22 2004 4:48 PM
COBOL.  Really.

  Beer28
  I contend Channel9 is a covert research project
 
  Tue, Nov 23 2004 12:48 PM
STANDARD C
STANDARD C++ with STL

Anything that I can code once and compile in more than just MC++. MC++ is ONE compiler out of MANY compilers on many platforms, and some standardization is more than appreciated.

Sometimes I do programming for my atmel 8051 microcontroller with SDCC
and output that to hex and load it up with the atmel FLIP loader

And I really appreciate that I can take C code I use in my regular VC++ programs and use it for my embedded device chips as well because of the portable standard C library. C++ is less portable but almost as good for OO.

None of this is possible with C# or managed languages, or anything that compiles to IL. I also don't like the managed extensions to C++ because they take away from it's portability as well.

MFC was nice because it built on top of C++ code and was C++ itself with some MS extended keywords. It was even nicer because you didn't have to use it, and if necessary could take it out of an app's core to use the core in another compiler.

None of that is possible with IL, and as for managed languages, I stuck with java, and java has rewarded me by project looking glass and letting me extend my applications to the 3d desktop framework.

Sorry to be such a stick in the mud.

PS- is MS going to release a CLR for 16 bit MC chips? Do I have enough onboard RAM? If we all have to use x86 chips as MC's with 256 ram it would get awefully expensive to make small utility devices.

PS #2- I also wouldn't mind seeing ANSI or another standards board come out with a universal OS API that C or C++ could interface, to make truly portable UI code, that would be code once, compile "everywhere" like POSIX with GDI, I wouldn't mind seeing something along those lines come about.


  shreyasonline
  Push The Limits !
 
  Sat, Dec 4 2004 10:35 AM
darthTriad wrote:
common, where's Smalltalk?


It's too small to talk about it ! ;)

  mVPstar
  Out of reality
 
  Thu, Dec 23 2004 8:26 PM

I chose C# but...

Question, is there anything really different between C#, VB, and C++ besides syntax and structure?

Also...

dhavalhirdhav: do you think you can post an example of assembly language? I always wondered what it looked like.



  Sven Groot
 
 
  Tue, Dec 28 2004 2:10 PM
Before opening the Pandora's Box yet again in this thread: check out this thread for some of the differences between C# and VB.

(Unmanaged) C++ can't really even be compared to them, it's so different.

  Briden
 
 
  Tue, Jan 4 2005 1:17 PM
totally!  my first programs were logowriter instructions making that turtle make trippy designs on the screen. 

My final program in that class was a game where you had to drive a car as close to the edge of a cliff as you could.

from there i moved onto turbo pascal, vb5, visual C++, then later asp(.net) and vb.net


  webidz
 
 
  Wed, Jan 5 2005 11:52 PM

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  CodeGuru
  The Code Guru
 
  Fri, Jan 7 2005 4:46 PM
how about Delphi ? or this MS only :D

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