For Immediate Release
Office of the Press Secretary
May 20, 2005
President Bush Meets with Danish Prime Minister Rasmussen
The Oval Office
10:48 A.M. EDT
PRESIDENT BUSH: The Prime Minister and I will be glad to answer
two questions per side.
First, Mr. Prime Minister, welcome back. It is so wonderful to see
you. He's a good friend of mine. Denmark is a good friend of
America. I appreciate your contributions to transatlantic ties. The
Prime Minister has made very constructive and helpful comments to make
sure that the transatlantic ties between the United States and Europe
are strong. And I want to thank you for your leadership role.
I also appreciate your clear understanding about the historic times
in which we live, times in which more and more people are becoming
free. I appreciate your strong support for those who desire to live in
a democracy in Iraq. I thank you for your contributions to a new
democracy called Afghanistan. I thank you for your very constructive
work in helping the Palestinians develop a democratic state that can
live side-by-side with Israel in peace.
So welcome back. It's good to see you, sir.
PRIME MINISTER RASMUSSEN: Thank you very much, Mr. President. I'm
delighted to be back in Washington. It's my fourth visit as Prime
Minister, which underlines that the United States and Denmark are close
friends and allies. We share the same fundamental values. We are
allied in our efforts to promote freedom and democracy worldwide.
And I'm happy to say, in addition to this, that I appreciate very
much your straightforward style. I consider you a friend and I know
that with you, I'll always have a very frank discussion and exchange of
views. So I'm happy to be back.
PRESIDENT BUSH: Fortunately, he's not that good a friend that I
would go running with him. (Laughter.) He's one of the best runners
in the world, amongst the world leaders. He's a good one.
Deb.
Q Mr. President, on stem cells, specifically, would you veto
legislation that loosened the requirement on federal funding for stem
cell research? And secondly --
PRESIDENT BUSH: Deb --
Q -- what is your reaction to the news about the South Koreans
on embryonic --
PRESIDENT BUSH: I'm -- first, I'm very concerned about cloning. I
worry about a world in which cloning becomes acceptable. Secondly, I
made my position very clear on embryonic stem cells. I'm a strong
supporter of adult stem cell research, of course. But I made it very
clear to the Congress that the use of federal money, taxpayers' money
to promote science which destroys life in order to save life is -- I'm
against that. And therefore, if the bill does that, I will veto it.
Q Mr. President, how do you react to the continuing reports
about mistreatment of prisoners held by American military around the
world, and also the perception abroad that the ones that are paying for
it are low-ranking soldiers, but that nobody higher up is taking any
responsibility?
PRESIDENT BUSH: I think the world ought to be -- pay attention to
the contrast between a society which was run by a brutal tyrant in
which there was no transparency and a society in which the whole world
watches a government find the facts, lay the facts out for the citizens
to see, and that punishment, when appropriate, be delivered.
If I'm not mistaken, I think about over 20 percent of the people
thus far that have been held to account as a result of the Abu Ghraib
issue have been officers. There have been over, I think, nine
investigations, eight or nine investigations by independent
investigators that have made the reports very public. I'm comfortable
that we're getting to the bottom of the situation and I know we're
doing so in a transparent way. Obviously, ours is a country that
respects human rights and human dignity, and if those rights and
dignity have been denied, we will hold people to account.
Steve.
Q Sir, are you worried that the publication of the Saddam photo,
along with the Newsweek story, will further inflame tensions and
inspire the Iraq insurgency and anti-Americanism in the Middle East?
PRESIDENT BUSH: I think the Iraq insurgency is inspired by their
desire to stop the march of freedom. Remember, these are ideologues of
-- that murder innocent people in order to spread their dark vision of
hate. And, therefore, when light begins to show up in the form of
democracy, it frightens them. There is no future for these haters in a
free world. And so they're inspired by the fact that they see
democracy emerging in Iraq. That's what causes them to want to kill.
They're frightened by the fact -- and inspired the wrong way, by the
way -- by the fact that Afghanistan is free. They're seeing the people
in Lebanon demand free and fair elections. And their ideology cannot
survive in a democratic society. See, the only way they can survive is
to -- is to try to shake our will by killing innocent life.
And that's why our strategy in Iraq is to train the Iraqis so that
they, themselves, can fight off these terrorists. Listen,
eight-and-a-half million people went to the polls, in spite of the fact
that the -- people had been killed and there was incredible
intimidation. And they defied the bombers. These people want to be
free, and the killers don't want them to be free. And so our strategy
is to help the Iraqis realize the dream of a free society. And when
the Iraqi troops are properly trained -- and we're headed in that
direction -- of course, it will take less of a coalition effort to help
this new democracy get started.
Yes, Steve.
Q What about the Saddam photo? Does that have any --
THE PRESIDENT: Well, you asked me whether or not that would
inspire people. You know, I don't think a photo inspires murderers. I
think they're inspired by an ideology that is so barbaric and backwards
that it's hard for many in the Western world to comprehend how they
think. But I would just remind people, if you want to know how
ideologically grim their vision of the world is, just remember the
Taliban. They said, if you don't agree with our religious views you'll
be prosecuted; if you're a woman who seeks freedom, you'll be beaten.
So these people are motivated by a vision of the world that is backward
and barbaric.
Q Mr. President, while the Danish people might support the war
and appreciate the progress in Iraq, they're also curious when our
soldiers will come back home. Can you elaborate on that?
THE PRESIDENT: Well, I appreciate that question a lot and, of
course, I get asked that in our own country a lot. And my answer is,
it makes no sense to set a timetable. And the reason why is, is
because it will allow an enemy to adjust.
On the other hand, as I tell our folks, is that we would like to
get our troops out as quickly as possible. And the definition of that
will be how soon our commanders on the ground think that the Iraqis are
able to take the fight to the enemy.
I just got off of a video -- which I'm looking to briefing the
Prime Minister on -- with General Casey, who is our general on the
ground, he's the commander of the coalition forces. And he was
describing to us the Iraqi training and the quality of training. And
some units are in really good shape and other units need additional
work. But one of the things that's important to understand is the
Iraqi government understands that as civilian governments change, there
needs to be stability in the military and a chain of command that links
top to bottom. And General Casey knows we're making progress toward
establishing that chain of command.
My answer to the Danish people is, as soon as we can possibly get
it done. We've got to complete the mission. A free Iraq in the midst
of the Middle East is going to be a powerful -- a powerful agent for
peace.
Listen, thank you all for coming.
Q One more?
PRESIDENT BUSH: We don't want to break precedent. Was that you,
Mark, who asked that?
Q It was.
PRESIDENT BUSH: No. (Laughter.) You know better than that.
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