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[edit] Page access

This page has been accessed 0 times. Is there a flaw in the Wikipedia hit counter tonight?

I understand the counters were disabled to speed up the site. See Talk:Main Page--AN

[edit] Vandalism

Reverted vandalism by User:64.81.136.146 who obvously thinks it's INCREDIBLY clever and original to substitute the original text with naughty words. Lee M 00:55, 3 Dec 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Trivia section 2

The trivia section is missing! Would someone please replace it?

[edit] Trivia section

Is it my imagination or is the font used for the PlayStation 3 title and the Spiderman movie title the same font? Could it be that Sony, whom owns the PlayStantion 3 also owns Sony Pictures whom released the Spiderman movie series (see: http://movies.ign.com/articles/615/615465p1.html) Metamorphousthe 15:36, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

I was going through the Trivia section here, and noticed how certain things are written. Without even going over to check, I can tell that much of the entries are copied from the Internet Movie Database. I don't actually care about the movie, so I can't do it, but the section, or at least parts of it, need to be rewritten. I don't understand how hard it is to something into your own words. --Bacteria 18:31, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

Somebody needs to rewrite the last trivia point. It is poorly written, and doesn't make much sense either. I might just remove it completely, and if anyone protests they can rewrite it themselves. --ChinaNailStorm 14:07, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Taglines

There are too many taglines. Why are they even there?? Dan 07:12, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

Someone should create a Wikiquote for the Spider-Man movie, or at least put a link to it on the page.

There is already a wikiquote page for the spiderman film. I've just linked it --Tim 12:31, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

How many taglines should be in the article do you think? There are too many just now, so which should and which shouldn't be in? --Tim 17:09, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Original Trailer

Does anyone have the link to the trailer!?

>x<ino 14:42, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] err... necessary?

  • At the hospital, when Peter Parker is visiting Aunt May, she said: "You're not Superman you know". Obviously, this is a reference to DC's character Superman.

I think it's pretty easy to understand that at first... The Kids Aren't Alright 01:48, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Trivia

The page is missing a Trivia page again. Could someone put it back? And when they do, also add that Matthew Broderick was considered for the role of Spider-Man long before the movie was in production, cause I wanted to put that. User:Tai112 7:20, 13 October 2006 (Eastern)


[edit] Darkman Reference

Did anyone notice that it ends almost the same way as Darkman? Remember Darkman's ending? Not a very big difference.--suit-n-tie 07:03, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Mary Jane Character

Am I the only one who thought Mary Jane was lacking in common sense and a sense of appropriate timing? She ticked off both her father and her boss at the restaurant at which she worked.

She broke up with her first boyfriend, Flash, at their high school graduation, didn't bother breaking up with Harry Osborn, and tried to attract Peter after the funeral of Norman Osborn, as he was standing at the grave of his recently-killed uncle.

It just strikes me that this girl just came off as a dunb blonde who just happened to be a redhead. If that's what the movie was going for, okay, but otherwise, tacky. --The Saxon 01:52, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cast

An Anon wanted to make the cast section a "non table" format, which is quite common and more acceptable way to do the cast (see Featured Articles of films like Revenge of the Sith). I think it needs a little work first, maybe some slimming down and rewrites so I'm sticking it here for people to fiddle with before adding it into the page. Bignole 01:48, 8 November 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Uncited cast information

Following was removed from the article during clean-up: "Tobey Maguire said he had never read a Spider-Man comic but took the role because he liked the script. The same also applies for Kirsten Dunst. Raimi was a fan of Spider-Man from a young age. Several major actors turned down roles in the film. Kate Hudson was offered the role of Mary Jane but chose to do the remake of The Four Feathers instead. Nicolas Cage and John Malkovich were first approached for the role of the Green Goblin before Willem Dafoe got the role. When Peter didn't want to go to the arena because the ring announcer (Bruce Campbell) got his name wrong, it was Sam Raimi who pushed him out in the close-up shot, although another actor voices the line "I don't care, get out there you moron!" This fact is on the DVD commentary." The information's been placed here so citation about it can be retrieved and re-inserted into the article. (I.e., Googling for Spider-Man, Sam Raimi, and John Malkovich to find any validity behind the consideration claim.) --Erik (talk/contrib) @ 22:45, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Additional uncited information

  • Several Spider-Man costumes were created at a cost of up to $100,000 each. Four were stolen from the set in early April 2001 and Columbia Pictures posted a $25,000 reward for their return. The costumes were not returned.[citation needed]
  • The genetically modified spider that bit Peter Parker was not a black widow spider but a Steatoda grossa spider, which was chosen by Steven R. Kutcher. While the spider was anesthetized, Jens Schnabel painted it red and blue in order to give the impression that its colors had inspired Peter's costume design. The jumping spider that Peter attempts to take a picture of is an Avondale spider, the same type used in the film Arachnophobia.[citation needed]
  • When the Goblin attacks at the World Unity Festival, Peter Parker runs down the street ripping his shirt to reveal his Spider-suit underneath as a homage to Richard Donner's Superman: The Movie. This shot is also used in the film's sequel Spider-Man 2.[citation needed]
  • The smoke in the lab during Norman Osborn's transformation scene was originally white but was then digitally altered to green. Director Raimi wanted to use real green smoke, but went with the CG effect when prop designers could not create a colored smoke that was non-toxic.[citation needed]
  • An actor was originally hired to portray Eddie Brock and did an entire scene involving Peter coming into the Daily Bugle. This was removed however, most likely because Sony planned to portray Eddie in future movies with an actor who would be set in stone.[citation needed]
  • Dr. Virgil Swan's Home/Mansion in the TV show Smallville is Norman Osborn's Home/Mansion in this film. [citation needed]
  • The speech in the boardroom regarding company profits was 'lifted' from the 1994 movie The Hudsucker Proxy, which was written by Joel & Ethan Coen & Sam Raimi. [citation needed]
  • When trying to shoot web from a building top Peter says "Up up and away web" a reference to Superman. Peter also says "Shazam" a reference to Captain Marvel. Directly afterwards when swinging Peter says "Tally ho!" This is the same line used in Sam Raimi's Army of Darkness, when Ash (Bruce Campbell) swings on a rope during a fight sequence in the battle at the castle, which is itself a reference to Errol Flynn's swashbuckling roles.[citation needed]
—Erik (talk • contrib) - 17:02, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
  • The most famous scene in the film and one which immediately entered popular culture is the 'upside down kiss' scene where Spider-Man, after saving Mary Jane from a gang of thugs, has a romantic kiss in the rain with her as he hangs upside down from the wall. This iconic image had been utilized in the comics for many years without generating the same kind of response.[citation needed]
--Bignole 02:13, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Plot

Ace job, guys. Plot looks good. The whole article looks good. Man...this baby has come a long way. Ace Class Shadow; My talk. 01:05, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Appreciate the compliment. It's still going the distance; we haven't even gotten into the nitty-gritty of production, either. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 01:11, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
Erik deserves about 95% of the credit, if not more. That man has been going all speedy gonzolas on the article. But something we do need is a good picture of Peter and MJ. For some reason I can't save the screen when I view the film on my computer, and there are no online images where it's a clear view of both of them, and not just one's front and the other's back. Bignole 01:14, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

How about Peter holding the new suit and Spidey and MJ in the rain? We might need to mention the romance in the Plot, though. If we do these, or something similar, then I think we could have a full body shot of the Green Goblin on his glider. What do you think? —Erik (talk • contrib) - 01:31, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Well, the first image is a fake. He never picks up the suit like that in the original. When he picks up a suit like that it's his wrestling costume. Someone super imposed that real costume over the wrestling one, you can tell if you look at the sleeves in the picture. As for the Spidey and MJ pic. Which would that replace? I think we need one of GG, better to have one of GG and Spidey together, but i'm not sure. Bignole 01:38, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

While the plot section should only be a summary of the events in the film, the description currently lacks some of the more interesting details that were previously on the page. It doesn't even mention that Peter is brilliant. --131.216.65.45 22:40, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Dark Spidey? Hmm. For the record, Sam Raimi has stated that Peter is not supposed to be a supergenius as in the comics. thus organic webshooters. Ace Class Shadow; My talk. 22:55, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Peter isn't a super genius, but he is exceptionally brilliant in the film, capable of understanding Norman's papers on nanotechnology while in high school. In the next film, he impresses his idol, Dr. Otto Octavius. --131.216.65.45 23:53, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

That's not relevant HERE, in an encyclopedia. The article is about what went into making the film, not the film itself. The plot is merely there to add the briefest bit of context to those that may not have seen the film, so that they can better understand the rest of the article. That means minor details like his intelligence, the color underwear he is wearing, etc are to be left out. Plots shouldn't be more than 600 words, unless they have an over complex plot (which this films does not in any way have, The Matrix would be a film that could be over 600 words). Bignole 23:57, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Citations for use

Citations for use. —Erik (talk • contrib • review) - 01:38, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
Wiki-newbie 13:11, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
Awesome, thanks. I want to get back into working on this page again after I finish my exams (one tonight, one on Monday). —Erik (talk • contrib • review) - 15:04, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
Interesting bit about how Dunst decided to audition for Spider-Man when she saw that Tobey Maguire was cast, which made her see it more as an independent film. —Erik (talk • contrib • review) - 12:36, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Template error: argument title is required.  - San Francisco Chronical review (negative)

[edit] Casting Tobey Maguire

There's a source out there -- don't remember what it is -- that said Raimi was encouraged by his wife to take a look at Maguire for the lead role based on Maguire's performance in The Cider House Rules. Just a heads-up, and a semi-reminder to myself. —Erik (talk • contrib • review) - 12:21, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Tappa, tappa, tappa, I inserted the Dunst comment by the way. Alientraveller 20:47, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Trivia section removed

  • According to court documents, Marvel Comics tried to use "Hollywood accounting" to deprive Stan Lee of due royalties from the films, claiming the film's "earnings" were not profits. Lee successfully sued in 2002.[1]
  • Uncle Ben's car is a 1973 Oldsmobile Delta 88 that is placed by Raimi in many of the director's films.[2]
It's become apparent that the existence of a Trivia section only attracts uncited edits, so I've removed it for the time being. If the two cited bits above can be integrated into the rest of the article somehow, feel free to do so. —Erik (talk • contrib • review) - 12:08, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Character Profiles?

Should there be character profiles for the film version of the characters? Like they have done with James Bond characters and Star Wars characters. --172.216.80.106 18:07, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Yes, there are. Alientraveller 18:08, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

I meant like an entire page for them --172.189.13.145 22:01, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Stan Lee

Stan Lee makes an apperance in the movie. In the scene where the Green Goblin attacks the parade, theres a brief shot where it shows Stan picking up and carrying away a little girl. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 209.244.42.199 (talk) 15:20, 29 April 2007 (UTC).

It's covered under Cast. :) —Erik (talk • contrib • review) - 15:22, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] GA

Looks good. Good work. The only specific comment I have is that the image Bannedposter.jpg could be cropped a bit to remove the watermark. Or perhaps a different scan of the same poster could be found? (Ibaranoff24 20:55, 5 May 2007 (UTC))

Found an extremely cropped version. Alientraveller 21:05, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Spoiler Warning

Hey I noticed that the spoiler warning here is in the plot. After looking at Wikipedia: Spoiler_warning and Wikipedia:WikiProject Films/Style guidelines#plot I'm going to remove it from that section. If you have any objections reply below or let me know on my talk page. Thanks! Jussen 22:35, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Trivia

This article needs a trivia section to be for filled...

No it doesn't. Please see WP:AVTRIV.  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 00:57, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
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