Ed Johnson-Ott talks to director Gary Ross about his new film, Pleasantville.
Pleasantville marks the directoral debut of Gary Ross, who also wrote
the hit film Dave and co-wrote Big, Tom Hanks' breakthrough feature.
The ambitious fantasy tells of two '90s teenagers magically zapped into a
black and white "Father Knows Best" style '50s TV comedy. The kids'
sensibilities have a drastic effect on the town. As they expose the
citizens to new ideas, people begin to change from black and white to
color. While some Pleasantville citizens embrace the vivid differences
and new-found freedoms, others react with suspicion and fear, desperately
trying to suppress what they perceive as a threat to their way of life.
During a phone conversation with Ross, I mentioned a recent news story
showing a memorial service for Matthew Shepard, the gay college student
murdered by homophobic thugs. Watching the symbol for diversity, a giant
rainbow flag, flying at half-mast, I thought about the message of Ross'
film. "We always think we're far away from that stuff and we're not, you
know?" said Ross from his Los Angeles office, "It can happen easily and
it keeps happening."
Learning to appreciate the full spectrum of humanity is at the heart of
Pleasantville. Ross explained, "It's about pluralism and diversity and
toler... you know, I hate the word tolerance, because it implies that
you're tolerating somebody, when what you should be doing is embracing
what's different about them and including it in your life."
Ross' father, screenwriter Arthur Ross (Creature From The Black Lagoon,
Brubaker), was blacklisted during the McCarthy era, and the director
understands the mechanics of fear and hatred. "You run into someone who
is different than you, you're afraid of your world changing, you're
afraid of change within yourself. I mean, gay-bashing is the biggest
example. Where does homophobia come from? It comes from people being
threatened about that in themselves, and so they try to destroy it.
Fascism is the same thing. We repress thought because we're afraid of
thinking. Or we're afraid of what thoughts we might have.
"These are natural feelings. It's natural to be afraid. I don't think
racism, sexism, fascism or gay bashing are unexplainable or unnatural.
They're an outgrowth of our own fears. But my God, you lose a lot by
being afraid. You lose so much of what's beautiful about life. Hopefully,
the film explores a lot of that beauty and diversity and pluralism."
While the current trend in Hollywood is to present dark stories
reflecting jaded sensibilities, Big, Dave and Pleasantville are all
fantasies imbued with a strong sense of kindness and decency. Those
qualities spring directly from Ross' personal philosophy. He makes
life-affirming movies because "I love life and I want to affirm it. It's
about ethics, love and compassion and I believe in those things too
viscerally and deeply to see them as corny, you know? And I think that
people will relate because I ultimately believe that that's down there in
people. Pleasantville is an anti-cynical movie. I don't want to just
spew back cynicism at people."
Many writers would take the premise for Pleasantville and turn it into
yet another glib post-modern exercise in irony, but Ross refuses to
settle for the easy route, however trendy it might be. "Irony and
cynicism are cousins," he explained. "They're a way of distancing
ourselves from feeling. And I'm interested in feeling."
While their styles are wildly different, I noted a pivotal scene in John
Waters' new film, Pecker, where an art critic realizes the genuine
nature of a young photographer's work and joyously exclaims "An end to
irony!" Ross hasn't seen Waters' film, but loved the sentiment. "Wow,
that's wonderful. An end to irony. I know, enough already, we're drowning
in it. We're so distanced. Irony is such a safe, smug little place to be
as an artist. To just be critical instead of having to put yourself on
the line and be vulnerable about how you feel about something."
Ross hopes that Pleasantville will prompt audiences to take another
look at how they view the world. He is hopeful about the prospects for
the film due to its joyful feel and because, instead of simply condemning
intolerance, he focuses on the potential for redemption. "Hopefully," the
filmmaker said, "if the movie does anything, it shows that things that
are different may seem scary at first, but those same things can be
beautiful. If we can get past our fear and past the need to suppress, we
will ultimately have a richer, fuller, more colorful life."
(C) 1998 Ed Johnson-Ott
* Read Ed Johnson-Ott's interview with Gary Ross!