Talk:Syrian Air Force

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Their is no doubt that Syria dont have the money to buy 100 MIG-31. do need so many also. i am sure that this info written at the text is not true. John , Greece , 26 June 2007

I agree. Also the article suggests that the Syrian Air Force MIG-21's could be upgraded in collaboration with India. When the reference source is studied carefully, it states that the Indian Air Force Mig's have been recently upgraded in India by installing equipment from Israel among other western sources in addition to the Russian equipment. Like that's gonna happen in the Syrian case. Thus this possibility could be confidently purged from this article.Andy anno (talk) 07:00, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

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Broken link for reference

Citation 33 to Janes, doesn't go to a page with the cited data, it is redirected to a different URL. comment added by Danjw1 (talk) 18:30, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

Russia confirms MiG jet sale to Syria

This site: [Mig-29] has a notice, from an Israeli newspaper, about the sell of mig-29 jets from Russia to Syria.Agre22 (talk) 20:25, 3 September 2009 (UTC)agre22

Inventory numbers, please provide references

Yes, the number of aircraft operated by the Syrian Air Force is not readily available. It is therefore crucial that when editing, people provide references. Otherwise we have no way of knowing who is informed, who is guessing and who is a mere vandal. I've restored the numbers to the ones specified in the ref already in the article. Please provide references for any changes. Thank you. Poliocretes (talk) 13:33, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

Quote

I think we should add the Moshe Dayan quote here. Chesdovi (talk) 00:39, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

Does Moshe Dayan have a quote about the Syrian Air Force? --Supreme Deliciousness (talk) 00:41, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

Possibly, but I'm sure we can somehow fit in the one about Israeli tractors here, after all, it led to the decimation of Syria's airforce, didn't it? Chesdovi (talk) 01:00, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

"Somehow fit it"? This is an article about the Syrian Air Force, whatever Dayan had to say about related political events is irrelevant. This article does not attempt to give a detailed explaination of events, something that would be entirely out of its scope, it merely reports the air force's role and participation in them. Unless the quote has something to say about the force itself, do not insert it. Poliocretes (talk) 06:56, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

Well said! Chesdovi (talk) 10:53, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

Uncited statement

Do any of the sources back up the statement about the aa-9 'Amos'? That they are "on order, but due to Israeli pressure no delivery s will take pace"? This sounds a little suspect, and the poor spelling and grammar doesn't help much. Now I could be wrong, but I've yet to hear anything about the arms deal falling through. Russia is, as far as I've heard, still Syria's main supplier of arms. If I'm right, then this would be in violation of WP:CRYSTAL. For now I'm just going to remove it, but if anyone can confirm it for me I'd really appreciate their doing so. Baronofcheese (talk) 22:26, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

Mi-2 Hoplite picture

Pictured is PZL-Świdnik W-3WA Sokół, 360612 (0612) - NOT a Mi-2. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Reno Bemowo (talk • contribs) 21:09, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

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POV in the history section

"The Syrian Air Force, despite its training and capabilities, never fared well against Israel. In the Six-Day War, the Syrian Air Force lost two-thirds of its forces with the rest retreating to bases in remote parts of Syria. This in turn helped the IDF in defeating the Syrian Army on the ground and led to the occupation of the Golan Heights.

The Yom Kippur War provided initial success for both Syria and Egypt, though again Israel inflicted more casualties in the air than it endured."

Why don't we simply mention only the numbers of casualties? I see a clear POV in the: "though again Israel inflicted more casualties in the air than it endured" and "The Syrian Air Force, despite its training and capabilities, never fared well against Israel." --aad_Dira (talk) 13:25, 21 April 2012 (UTC)>

L-39 ZA

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These problems are also thought by experts to account for the recent use of L-39 trainer jets in a combat role by the regime.[13] Photos and video have confirmed that the L-39ZA trainer has been modified by the regime and outfitted for light ground attack.[14]

From referenced article [14] and general knowledge of L-39, I would say, that outfitted for light ground attack. is general description of all L-39 ZA and not a special upgrade by the Syrian government . So I suggest to remove statement that has been modified by the regime unless more detailed citation about some special Syrian uprgrade is provided.

Tatrgel (talk) 20:48, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

Civil war

This is too much like current affairs so i have removed the following, pending a definitive outcome and reliable information with NPOV.Petebutt (talk) 04:02, 6 September 2012 (UTC)

==Syrian civil war (2011—present)==
During the Syrian civil war the Syrian Air Force is frequently attacking opposition fighters with helicopter gunships and warplanes. Most of these attacks aim to populated areas and cause Collateral Damage among civilians. In July 2012 at the Farnborough Air Show it was announced that Russia would not deliver any new aircraft including the MiG-29M/M2's and Yak-130's while there was still a crisis in Syria, however it would still respect any previous refurbishment and maintenance contracts such as the Mi-25's. By August 2012 it had become apparent to intelligence experts that the Syrian airforce was suffering significant technical difficulties, resulting in less than half of the airforce's most advanced counterinsurgency aircraft such as the Mi-25 Hind-D being available at any given time, due to an increased number of conflict fronts and severe maintenance burdens. These problems are also thought by experts to account for the recent use of L-39 trainer jets in a combat role by the regime. Photos and video have confirmed that the L-39ZA trainer has been modified by the regime and outfitted for light ground attack. Other reports have also confirmed that MiGs are being used to launch airstrikes on densely populated civilian areas. On August 15 2012, a Syrian airforce jet twice attacked a hospital in Aleppo.

So far in the conflict, the Syrian opposition's forces have claimed to down 2 planes in flight, and "several" helicopters. At least four other planes have been claimed to be destroyed on the ground. A Syrian pilot, colonel Hassan al-Mirei Hamadeh, has also defected by landing a MiG in Jordan.