Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion
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Miscellany for deletion (MfD) is a place where Wikipedians decide what should be done with problematic pages in the namespaces outside the main namespace (also called the "article namespace") which aren't covered by other specialized deletion discussion areas. Items sent here are usually discussed for five days; then they are either deleted by an administrator or kept, based on community consensus (determined using the discussion as a guideline).
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[edit] Introduction
The only currently-used namespaces in which pages are eligible for deletion here are:
- Help:
- Portal:
- MediaWiki:
- Wikipedia:
- This includes WikiProjects, although it is usually preferable to either mark the Project as historical or change it to a task force of the parent Project, unless the Project is entirely undesirable.
- User:
- When a page in the User or User talk namespaces seems worthy of deletion, please explain your concerns using either a personal note or by adding "{{subst:Uw-userpage}} ~~~~" to their talk page. While this step is not required, it does assume good faith and civility; often the user is simply unaware of the guidelines, and the page can either be fixed or speedily deleted using {{db-userreq}}.
- Also be aware of not biting new users -- sometimes using the {{subst:welcome}} template and a pointer to WP:UP would be best first.
- the various Talk: namespaces
- Userboxes, regardless of namespace.
The undeletion of pages deleted after having been discussed here, and debating whether discussions here have been properly closed, is the purview of Wikipedia:Deletion review, which operates in accordance with our undeletion policy.
[edit] Please familiarize yourself with the following policies
- Wikipedia:Deletion policy — our deletion policy that describes how we delete things by consensus
- Wikipedia:Guide to deletion — whose guidelines on discussion format and shorthands also apply here
- Wikipedia:User page — our guidelines on user pages
[edit] Prerequisites
Please bear in mind that:
- Nominating a Wikipedia policy or guideline page, or one of the deletion discussion areas (or their sub-pages), for deletion will probably be considered disruptive, and the ensuing discussions closed early. This is not a forum for modifying or revoking policy.
- Nominating for deletion a proposed policy or guideline page that is still under discussion is generally frowned upon. If you oppose a proposal, discuss it on the policy page's discussion page. Consider being bold and improving the proposal. Modify the proposal so that it gains consensus. Also note that even if a policy fails to gain consensus, it is often useful to retain it as a historical record, for the benefit of future editors.
- User pages about Wikipedia-related matters by established users usually do not qualify for deletion.
- Normal editing that doesn't require the use of any administrator tools, such as merging the page into another page or renaming it, can often resolve problems.
- If a page is in the wrong namespace (e.g. an article in Wikipedia namespace), simply move it and tag the redirect for speedy deletion using {{db-reason}} using the reason: Redirect left after a cross-namespace move - G6 Housekeeping and notify the author of the original article of the cross-namespace move.
[edit] How to list pages for deletion
Please check the aforementioned list of deletion discussion areas to check that you are in the right area.
To list an article/page for deletion, follow this three-step process: (replace PageName with the name of the page, including its namespace, to be deleted)
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Edit PageName.
Enter the following text at the top of the page you are listing for deletion:
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Create its MfD subpage.
The resulting MfD box at the top of the page should contain the link "this page's entry"
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Add a line to MfD.
Follow this edit link and add a line to the top of the list:
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- While not required, it is generally considered civil to notify the good-faith creator and any main contributors of the miscellany that you are nominating. To find the main contributors, look in the page history or talk page of the article and/or use TDS' Article Contribution Counter or Wikipedia Page History Statistics. For your convenience, you may add
{{subst:MFDWarning|Article}} ~~~~
Notice of deletion discussion at [[Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/PageName]]
PageName
with the name of the nomination page you are proposing for deletion. - If the user has not edited in a while, consider sending the user an email to notify them about the MfD if the MfD concerns their user pages.
- If you are nominating a Portal, please make a note of your nomination here and consider using the portal guidelines in your nomination.
[edit] Active discussions
- Pages currently being considered are indexed by the day on which they were first listed. Please place new listings at the top of the section for the current day. If no section for the current day is present, please start a new section.
- Purge the server's cache of this page
[edit] 2009-04-23
[edit] 2009-04-22
[edit] Wikipedia:Wish the Day Committee
Deserted for two years (except for a bot), this is a bad idea for a project anyway. Welcoming and birthday committees suffice. Also nominating Template:User Wish the Day Committee, their userbox, for deletion here. (edit: and obviously the page's three redirects) ~EdGl ★ 16:10, 22 April 2009 (UTC) (edited 16:39, 22 April 2009 (UTC))
- Delete no action for two years and useless. The two contributors User:Lights and User:Jasz have been inactive for a year. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 22:20, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
- Delete The Birthday and Welcoming committees already take care of nearly everything, and this doesn't seem to have any particular point anyway. Hi878 (talk) 03:59, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
[edit] 2009-04-21
[edit] Wikipedia:Wikiproject Three Days Grace
Single participant Wikiproject created without going through the proposal process. -- Mufka (u) (t) (c) 17:25, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
- Merge - I would expect any project to have only a single member on the day it was created, and this page was only created today. I would also note that there is no requirement for a WikiProject to go through the approval process. However, I do question whether the project has sufficient scope to have a reasonable chance of functioning. Suggest that it merge to Wikipedia:WikiProject Canadian music until and unless it has sufficient interest to be viable on its own. John Carter (talk) 17:32, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
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- Comment - I may have pulled the trigger on this one a little prematurely. I misunderstood the proposal process as a requirement. Then I made the added mistake of taking it here instead of discussing moving it to the user space for work. I was going to undo this, but then it was added to, so I can't. Nonetheless, this will be a good discussion to see that a phantom project isn't floating around. -- Mufka (u) (t) (c) 17:46, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
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- You can withdraw the nomination, just say so and do a speedy close on it, with the rationale "withdrawn by nominator". No one else so far has supported a delete, so there should be no objection. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 21:05, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
[edit] 2009-04-20
[edit] Wikipedia:Proposed mergers
I must say that over its lifespan, this page has been a miserable chronic failure. Even many long-time users have only recently learned about this page. It's been chronically backlogged for most of its history, there are enteries nearly a year old. It's fallen into disuse and decay. It no longer fills its originally intended purpose. Even if WP:PRMWP:MRD fails to gain acceptance, this page has no further need to remain here. Therefore I asked this page to be deleted. Ipatrol (talk) 02:26, 20 April 2009 (UTC) Ipatrol (talk) 02:26, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
- 197 edits in 2009 so far is a rather odd idea of "disuse". And we generally don't delete such things even if they were disused, especially if they date so far back in the project that they even pre-date the on-wiki form of the Verifiability policy. Novice editors often learn from seeing how the way that we do things has evolved over time. Uncle G (talk) 02:45, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
- Oppose the nomination to delete - This is the first time I've ever heard of anybody trying to delete a full-fledged wikipage. ----DanTD (talk) 02:48, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
- Tend to oppose the nomination to delete - many older listings are still there as there is no archive section to the page to place them. We need some general place to list them. Casliber (talk · contribs) 03:24, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
- Keep and do not tag {{historical}} added Flatscan (talk) 04:27, 23 April 2009 (UTC), the nomination provides reasons that are misleading or not justification for deletion. I agree that it is less known and poorly watched (not sure why) and has a substantial backlog (maybe related to the nature of mergers). Flatscan (talk) 03:55, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
- Oppose the nomination to delete 207.237.33.36 (talk) 04:39, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
- Keep this is worth keeping for its history, and it is probably still in use despite a backlog. Because one editor has not heard of it till now does not mean it is useless. 763 pages point to this project page, so it draws plenty of links. Perhaps you should consider Wikipedia:Mergers for discussion instead. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 04:44, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
- Keep. If there is consensus to wind it up, then tag {{historical}} --SmokeyJoe (talk) 07:53, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
- Keep. No valid reason for deletion has been given. We don't delete process pages due to lack of use, nor for failing at their intended goal. Chillum 13:49, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
- Keep Although I wish this page functioned much better, it still does function somewhat. I don't think deletion is the right solution, I think it would only make the problem of merging more fragmented and receive less attention. In the future, I do wish that Wikipedia:Proposed merges could be absorbed into Wikipedia:Mergers for discussion. The biggest thing missing from WP:MRFD right now is participants, and a vote doesn't take much effort. --NickPenguin(contribs) 19:25, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
- There's not really a compelling rationale for deletion. If anything, it should be tagged as {{historical}}. Titoxd(?!? - cool stuff) 20:20, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
- It is still in active use! I was thinking a speedy close would be the way for this nomination. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 21:29, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
- Thus the "if anything"... although the two competing merging processes should be, well, um, merged. Titoxd(?!? - cool stuff) 21:58, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
- It is still in active use! I was thinking a speedy close would be the way for this nomination. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 21:29, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
- Keep and not historical. DGG (talk) 02:47, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
- Addendum - I think a key point here is the setting up of Wikipedia:Mergers for discussion, which is clearly a parallel process (merging mergers to one format or the other is a no-brainer surely?). What really needs to be decided upon is which is the more useful format for what is essentially the same purpose and some discussion on it. Casliber (talk · contribs) 03:06, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
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- But since that is a merger it should be discussed on one or other of those pages! This is a deletion discussion, different people could be expected to be involved in a merger/replacement discussion, so this is not the venue for which page is better. From the point of deletion, both pages should be kept. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 03:44, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
- Keep for now, but encourage a shift to Wikipedia:Mergers for discussion. Perhaps at a later date this can be appropriately tagged historical. ThemFromSpace 05:36, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
- Oppose deletion Deleting the page because of the listed shortcomings doesn't actually solve them. It's like sweeping things under the rug so they're out of sight. I'd definitely support a move to the MRFD process, but even if that succeeds this should be archived or tagged historical anyway. - Mgm|(talk) 09:00, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
- Keep This is still actively being used. There is no valid reason to delete it. Hi878 (talk) 04:04, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
[edit] 2009-04-19
[edit] Wikipedia:Newbie club
unused page. The New Mikemoral ♪♫ 22:33, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
- Nice idea. Take up is slow. Deletion of this is the prerogative of the author. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 00:50, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
- Delete. The page was created in 2005, and nobody posted there between its creation and this week. The page apparently never came to the attention of its target audience. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 00:52, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
DeleteUserfy per Graham87, below - Slow take up indeed. Likely good intentions on Ed Poor's part, but there's no benefit to be had from a project-space page which has not been used once in the 4 years it has been in existence. Dreaded Walrus t c 00:56, 20 April 2009 (UTC)- Delete Simply no use for such a page. Welcome banners lead editors in other directions. — BQZip01 — talk 02:41, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
- Delete per Dreaded Walrus 207.237.33.36 (talk) 03:49, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
- Userfy - is more suitable in userspace. We generally don't delete the history of pages just because they've been unused. Graham87 14:16, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
- Comment how does one userfy a page obviously intended for a group? Wouldn't that mean declaring the group closed, but keeping the page as a memento for Ed Poor? Or am I missing something really obvious? Totnesmartin (talk) 15:48, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
- There are plenty of pages obviously intended for a group in userspace, such as User:Jennavecia/Bathrobe Cabal. I just don't see the point of deleting the page history, because it's not doing any harm, and the page does not violate any Wikipedia policies. Graham87 03:15, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
- Comment how does one userfy a page obviously intended for a group? Wouldn't that mean declaring the group closed, but keeping the page as a memento for Ed Poor? Or am I missing something really obvious? Totnesmartin (talk) 15:48, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
- Delete – though the idea might be a possibility, this page does no good. TheAE talk/sign 23:44, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
- Delete or userfy We have all sorts of pages for newbies that are better visited. A nice idea, but it's not working. - Mgm|(talk) 09:04, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
[edit] Recent discussions
Everything from here on down is old business; the 5-day review period that began on 18 April 2009 has ended. Everything below this marker should be dealt with and removed from the workflow. Move this marker up as time passes. Editors may continue to add comments until the discussion is closed but they should keep in mind that the discussion below this marker may be closed at any time without further notice. |