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Contents
- 1 Main Page error reports
- 1.1 Errors in the summary of today's or tomorrow's featured article
- 1.2 Errors in In the news
- 1.3 Errors in today's or tomorrow's On this day
- 1.4 Errors in the current or next Did you know...
- 1.5 Errors in today's or tomorrow's featured picture
- 1.6 Errors in the summary of the current or next featured list
- 2 General discussion
Main Page error reports[edit]
Most issues relating to national variations of the English language have already been discussed here at length:
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To report an error on today's or tomorrow's Main Page, please add it to the appropriate section below.
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Errors in the summary of today's or tomorrow's featured article[edit]
Errors in In the news[edit]
Errors in today's or tomorrow's On this day[edit]
Today[edit]
- Fast of the Firstborn - barely referenced. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:05, 9 April 2017 (UTC)
- Passover - not much better, lots of unreferenced paragraphs, nine [citation needed] tags. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:07, 9 April 2017 (UTC)
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- In all honesty, I think we should run Passover even if the article is not in a perfect condition. It's one of the main holidays in a major world faith, and it seems very weird to leave it off the main page for the sake of 9 citation needed templates. I'm going to work on improving the references a bit, but it's not a hideous trainwreck of an article or anything. Smurrayinchester 09:42, 10 April 2017 (UTC)
- I've referenced what I can. There are a couple of tags where I don't even know where to begin finding a reference. Smurrayinchester 10:19, 10 April 2017 (UTC)
- In all honesty, I think we should run Passover even if the article is not in a perfect condition. It's one of the main holidays in a major world faith, and it seems very weird to leave it off the main page for the sake of 9 citation needed templates. I'm going to work on improving the references a bit, but it's not a hideous trainwreck of an article or anything. Smurrayinchester 09:42, 10 April 2017 (UTC)
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- Gabrielle d'Estrées - some referencing issues, and unattributed, unreferenced quote in the lead. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:20, 9 April 2017 (UTC)
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- SO, we have an opportunity to resolve some of these issues early in the day! A couple of hours in, and no responses from any admins. Let's get the party started! The Rambling Man (talk) 02:23, 10 April 2017 (UTC)
- Passover Seder - "...is conducted throughout the world on the evening of the 15th day of Nisan in the Hebrew calendar (which falls in late March or April of the Gregorian calendar)." The date for 2017 is April 9 at sundown. -- Deborahjay (talk) 09:29, 10 April 2017 (UTC)
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- How is that possible? The page shows no indication of insufficient quality. There seems to be some misunderstanding here. -- Deborahjay (talk) 09:50, 10 April 2017 (UTC)
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- The article has huge swathes of unreferenced text - whole paragraphs and sections. It cannot be linked from the Main Page like this. Black Kite (talk) 10:21, 10 April 2017 (UTC)
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- ...and there's no template indicating these "huge swathes of unreferenced text" -- why not? -- Deborahjay (talk) 10:34, 10 April 2017 (UTC)
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- Because no-one has ever added them. Unfortunately there are many thousands of articles like this, but that does not mean that the problems do not exist. Black Kite (talk) 10:45, 10 April 2017 (UTC)
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- No one, including yourself. So much for good faith in the contention that the "maintenance team," by rejecting mention of substandard articles, acts to encourage their improvement. -- Deborahjay (talk) 10:58, 10 April 2017 (UTC)
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- Many editors and admins look at upcoming OTD entries, and if they are sub-standard, we remove them and often tag them. If they are articles that need a small amount of improvement, or they are within our areas of knowledge, we often source them or otherwise improve them to a sufficient standard. If it had been me who removed this I would probably have added a single refimprove tag at the top of the article, but I didn't remove it. I was merely pointing out to you why it had been removed after the event. You can't expect people who are merely trying to keep Main Page content of a reasonable standard to try to fix everything that isn't in a short time period. Perhaps if you are someone who has the expertise to source the unreferenced parts of the article you could do it yourself? I see another editor (below) has made a start on it. Black Kite (talk) 14:03, 10 April 2017 (UTC)
- I don't have time to inline cite everything, but I have added a general citation for the order of the Seder and the proceedings at each stage (A Passover Seder Companion and Analytic Introduction to the Haggadah). It verifies most of what's currently unreferenced (i.e. the Order of the Seder and Themes of the Seder sections) and if anyone wants to do the inline cites I would be very grateful. Smurrayinchester 11:05, 10 April 2017 (UTC)
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Tomorrow[edit]
Errors in the current or next Did you know...[edit]
Current[edit]
- "... that Lynn Nottage interviewed residents of the poorest city in America while developing the play Sweat, which has been described as "the first theatrical landmark of the Trump era"?" This is a statement that requires more proper context. So the "poorest city in America" currently pipes to Reading, Pennsylvania. Googling "the poorest city in America" brings up all manner of results for what qualifies as being the poorest city - lowest median income, poverty rate, lowest land value, etc.. And I got all manner of candidates for "poorest city in America" based on this varying matrix: Macon, Mississippi; El Paso, Texas; Brownsville-Harlingen, Texas; Blackwater, Arizona, etc.. The blurb needs to either be amended to remove the easter egg or to clarify what is intended by "poorest city in America".--WaltCip (talk) 13:27, 10 April 2017 (UTC)
- Actually the problem here is that the article says "one of the poorest cities" while the hook, for some reason, says it's the poorest, and the source says "She read in the Times that the Census Bureau had found Reading to be the poorest American city of its size, with a poverty rate of more than forty per cent." Let's just trim the poorest city stuff and go with the "first theatrical landmark of the Trump era" quote. Pinging BU Rob13 and Coffee as nominator and DYK approver. BencherliteTalk 13:44, 10 April 2017 (UTC)
- Looks like the blurb has been amended, so we can consider this issue resolved.
Resolved--WaltCip (talk) 13:51, 10 April 2017 (UTC)
- I was the one who amended it (apologies for not making that clearer). BencherliteTalk 13:58, 10 April 2017 (UTC)
- Looks like the blurb has been amended, so we can consider this issue resolved.
- Actually the problem here is that the article says "one of the poorest cities" while the hook, for some reason, says it's the poorest, and the source says "She read in the Times that the Census Bureau had found Reading to be the poorest American city of its size, with a poverty rate of more than forty per cent." Let's just trim the poorest city stuff and go with the "first theatrical landmark of the Trump era" quote. Pinging BU Rob13 and Coffee as nominator and DYK approver. BencherliteTalk 13:44, 10 April 2017 (UTC)
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Errors in today's or tomorrow's featured picture[edit]
Errors in the summary of the current or next featured list[edit]
General discussion[edit]
Video as main page image for April 13 TFA[edit]
Czar asked here if it was OK to switch out a pic of a game cover for the April 13 TFA with another image; I agreed, not realizing the replacement image would be a video. I don't know any reason why this would be a bad idea, but since I haven't seen it done I thought I'd ask here, just in case. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 02:15, 4 April 2017 (UTC)
- Videos turn up at DYK, OTD and TFP more frequently than they appear elsewhere on the main page, but that mainly reflects availability. This seems like a good opportunity to run one at TFA, particularly given the relative scarcity of free-licensed pictures (of the static or motion variety) in the subject area. —David Levy 02:29, 4 April 2017 (UTC)
- I do think the cover is quite attractive, but from a purely EV perspective the video is of greater encyclopedic use. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 23:11, 4 April 2017 (UTC)
- Is there a way the thumbnail can be fixed? Looking at it on firefox, it's just a grey play button with a few colorful pixels to the right of the button. ApLundell (talk) 17:25, 6 April 2017 (UTC)
- I've increased the thumbnail's size and selected a more suitable still frame to display. —David Levy 07:36, 8 April 2017 (UTC)
Featured pictures[edit]
Three animal-related pictures almost in a row - and nobody has commented yet. (The pictures are decorative/interesting enough.) Jackiespeel (talk) 10:03, 8 April 2017 (UTC)
Wrting under "did you know" makes no sense[edit]
Off the main page. To continue such discussion over the suitability of language used in DYK hooks, please take it to the DYK project. The Rambling Man (talk) 02:42, 10 April 2017 (UTC)
- The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
"... that in Canada, ten dollars will get you an EMD F40PH diesel locomotive?" I live in Canada, and there's no way you can buy an actual train for 10 dollars here. Socialistboyy (talk) 03:24, 9 April 2017 (UTC)socialistboyy
- The reference is to the following sentence: A rebuilt locomotive was included on the back of the redesigned Canadian ten-dollar note in 2013. It is not meant literally (obviously). --Majora (talk) 03:31, 9 April 2017 (UTC)
- Seems like a blurb that inappropriate outside of April 1. ---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 05:50, 9 April 2017 (UTC)
- Nonsense. There is a long standing tradition at DYK to have the last hook be particularly...hooky. If it gets you to click on the article and read, it has done its job. --Majora (talk) 06:02, 9 April 2017 (UTC)
- Oh and in case you think I am joking. It is actually written in the prep rules. See Wikipedia:Did you know/Preparation areas #N9. N9: Consider picking at least one funny or quirky hook if there is one available and putting it in the last (bottom) slot of the update. Just as serious news programs end on an upbeat note to bring viewers back next time, ending on an upbeat or quirky note rounds an update off nicely and encourages readers to come back next time for more. --Majora (talk) 06:07, 9 April 2017 (UTC)
- Since when did either quirky or funny mean inaccurate? This is literally false. LordAtlas (talk) 02:38, 10 April 2017 (UTC)
- It's off the main page now. I suggest you all take your complaints to the DYK project where your concerns, I'm sure, will be taken into consideration. It's no longer relevant here. The Rambling Man (talk) 02:42, 10 April 2017 (UTC)
- Since when did either quirky or funny mean inaccurate? This is literally false. LordAtlas (talk) 02:38, 10 April 2017 (UTC)
- Seems like a blurb that inappropriate outside of April 1. ---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 05:50, 9 April 2017 (UTC)
- The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.