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On this page, the deletion or merging of templates and modules, except as noted below, is discussed. To propose the renaming of a template or templates, use Wikipedia:Requested moves.

How to use this page[edit]

What not to propose for discussion here[edit]

Shortcut

The majority of deletion and merger proposals concerning pages in the template namespace and module namespace should be listed on this page. However, there are a few exceptions:

Stub templates
Stub templates and categories should be listed at Categories for discussion, as these templates are merely containers for their categories, unless the stub template does not come with a category and is being nominated by itself.
Userboxes
Userboxes should be listed at Miscellany for deletion, regardless of the namespace in which they reside.
Speedy deletion candidates
If the template clearly satisfies a criterion for speedy deletion, tag it with a speedy deletion template. For example, if you wrote the template and request its deletion, tag it with {{Db-author}}.
Policy or guideline templates
Templates that are associated with particular Wikipedia policies or guidelines, such as the speedy deletion templates, cannot be listed at TfD separately. They should be discussed on the talk page of the relevant guideline.
Template redirects
List at Redirects for discussion.

Reasons to delete a template[edit]

Shortcut
  1. The template violates some part of the template namespace guidelines, and can't be altered to be in compliance.
  2. The template is redundant to a better-designed template.
  3. The template is not used, either directly or by template substitution (the latter cannot be concluded from the absence of backlinks), and has no likelihood of being used.
  4. The template violates a policy such as Neutral point of view or Civility and it can't be fixed through normal editing.

Templates should not be nominated if the issue can be fixed by normal editing. Instead, you should edit the template to fix its problems. If the template is complex and you don't know how to fix it, WikiProject Templates may be able to help.

Templates for which none of these apply may be deleted by consensus here. If a template is being misused, consider clarifying its documentation to indicate the correct use, or informing those that misuse it, rather than nominating it for deletion. Initiate a discussion on the template talk page if the correct use itself is under debate.

Listing a template[edit]

Shortcuts

To list a template for deletion or merging, follow this three-step process. The use of Twinkle (explained below) is strongly recommended, as it automates and simplifies these steps. Note that the "Template:" prefix should not be included anywhere when carrying out these steps (unless otherwise specified).

Step Instructions
I: Tag the template. Add one of the following codes to the top of the template page:

Note:

  • If the template nominated is inline, do not add a newline between the TfD notice and the code of the template.
  • If the template to be nominated for deletion is protected, make a request for the TfD tag to be added, by posting on the template's talk page and using the {{editprotected}} template to catch the attention of administrators or Template editors.
  • For templates designed to be substituted, add <noinclude>...</noinclude> around the TfD notice to prevent it from being substituted alongside the template.
  • Do not mark the edit as minor.
  • Use an edit summary like
    Nominated for deletion; see [[Wikipedia:Templates for discussion#Template:name of template]]
    or
    Nominated for merging; see [[Wikipedia:Templates for discussion#Template:name of template]].
  • Before saving your edit, preview your edit to ensure the Tfd message is displayed properly.

Multiple templates: If you are nominating multiple related templates, choose a meaningful title for the discussion (like "American films by decade templates"). Tag every template with {{subst:Tfd|heading=discussion title}} or {{subst:Tfm|name of other template|heading=discussion title}} instead of the versions given above, replacing discussion title with the title you chose (but still not changing the PAGENAME code).

Related categories: If including template-populated tracking categories in the TfD nomination, add {{Catfd|template name}} to the top of any categories that would be deleted as a result of the TfD, this time replacing template name with the name of the template being nominated. (If you instead chose a meaningful title for a multiple nomination, use {{Catfd|header=title of nomination}} instead.)

TemplateStyles pages: The above templates will not work on TemplateStyles pages. Instead, add a CSS comment to the top of the page:

/* This template is being discussed in accordance with Wikipedia's deletion policy. Help reach a consensus at its entry: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2022_November_20#Template:template_name.css */
II: List the template at TfD. Follow this link to edit today's TfD log.

Add this text to the top of the list:

  • For deletion: {{subst:Tfd2|template name|text=Why you think the template should be deleted. ~~~~}}
  • For merging: {{subst:Tfm2|template name|other template's name|text=Why you think the templates should be merged. ~~~~}}

If the template has had previous TfDs, you can add {{Oldtfdlist|previous TfD without brackets|result of previous TfD}} directly after the Tfd2/Catfd2 template.

Use an edit summary such as
Adding [[Template:template name]].

Multiple templates: If this is a deletion proposal involving multiple templates, use the following:

{{subst:Tfd2|template name 1|template name 2 ...|title=meaningful discussion title|text=Why you think the templates should be deleted. ~~~~}}

You can add up to 50 template names (separated by vertical bar characters | ). Make sure to include the same meaningful discussion title that you chose before in Step 1.

If this is a merger proposal involving more than two templates, use the following:

{{subst:Tfm2|template name 1|template name 2 ...|with=main template (optional)|title=meaningful discussion title|text=Why you think the templates should be merged. ~~~~}}

You can add up to 50 template names (separated by vertical bar characters | ), plus one more in |with=. |with= does not need to be used, but should be the template that you want the other templates to be merged into. Make sure to include the same meaningful discussion title that you chose before in Step 1.

Related categories: If this is a deletion proposal involving a template and a category populated solely by templates, add this code in the |text= field of the Tfd2 template but before the text of your rationale:

{{subst:Catfd2|category name}}
III: Notify users. Please notify the creator of the template nominated (as well as the creator of the target template, if proposing a merger). It is helpful to also notify the main contributors of the template that you are nominating. To find them, look in the page history or talk page of the template. Then, add one of the following:

to the talk pages of the template creator (and the creator of the other template for a merger) and the talk pages of the main contributors. It is also helpful to make any interested WikiProjects aware of the discussion. To do that, make sure the template's talk page is tagged with the banners of any relevant WikiProjects; please consider notifying any of them that do not use Article alerts.

Multiple templates: There is no template for notifying an editor about a multiple-template nomination: please write a personal message in these cases.

Consider adding any templates you nominate for TfD to your watchlist. This will help ensure that the TfD tag is not removed.

After nominating: Notify interested projects and editors[edit]

While it is sufficient to list a template for discussion at TfD (see above), nominators and others sometimes want to attract more attention from and participation by informed editors. All such efforts must comply with Wikipedia's guideline against biased canvassing.

To encourage participation by less experienced editors, please avoid Wikipedia-specific abbreviations in the messages you leave about the discussion, link to any relevant policies or guidelines, and link to the TfD discussion page itself. If you are recommending that a template be speedily deleted, please give the criterion that it meets.

Notifying related WikiProjects[edit]

WikiProjects are groups of editors that are interested in a particular subject or type of editing. If the article is within the scope of one or more WikiProjects, they may welcome a brief, neutral note on their project's talk page(s) about the TfD. You can use {{Tfdnotice}} for this.

Tagging the nominated template's talk page with a relevant Wikiproject's banner will result in the template being listed in that project's Article Alerts automatically, if they subscribe to the system. For instance, tagging a template with {{WikiProject Physics}} will list the discussion in Wikipedia:WikiProject Physics/Article alerts.

Notifying substantial contributors to the template[edit]

While not required, it is generally considered courteous to notify the good-faith creator and any main contributors of the template and its talkpage that you are nominating for discussion. To find the creator and main contributors, look in the page history or talk page.

At this point, you've done all you need to do as nominator. Sometime after seven days have passed, someone else will either close the discussion or, where needed, "relist" it for another seven days of discussion. (That "someone" may not be you, the nominator.)

Once you have submitted a template here, no further action is necessary on your part. If the nomination is successful it will be added to the Holding Cell until the change is implemented. There is no requirement for nominators to be part of the implementation process, but they are allowed to if they so wish.

Also, consider adding any templates you nominate to your watchlist. This will help ensure that your nomination tag is not mistakenly or deliberately removed.

Twinkle[edit]

Twinkle is a convenient tool that can perform many of the posting and notification functions automatically, with fewer errors and missed steps than manual editing. Twinkle does not notify WikiProjects, although many of them have automatic alerts. It is helpful to notify any interested WikiProjects that don't receive alerts, but this has to be done manually.

Discussion[edit]

Anyone can join the discussion, but please understand the deletion policy and explain your reasoning.

People will sometimes also recommend subst or subst and delete and similar. This means the template text should be "merged" into the articles that use it. Depending on the content, the template page may then be deleted; if preserving the edit history for attribution is desirable, it may be history-merged with the target article or moved to mainspace and redirected.

Templates are rarely orphaned—that is, removed from pages that transclude them—before the discussion is closed. A list of open discussions eligible for closure can be found at Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Old unclosed discussions.

Closing discussion[edit]

Administrators should read the closing instructions before closing a nomination. Note that WP:XFDcloser semi-automates this process and ensures all of the appropriate steps are taken.

Current discussions[edit]

November 20[edit]


November 19[edit]

Template:New user article[edit]

Pointless template. Most uses (such as the one I removed from Talk:Pregnancy Outcome Prediction (POP) study) are no longer new. New page patrollers are capable of evaluating for themselves whether an article is new and the appropriate level of courtesy to give to the creator. * Pppery * it has begun... 02:37, 19 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:Current U.S. representatives from Alabama[edit]

All are single-use or have just two uses. All should be substituted on respective articles. Based on previous discussions of unused templates like these on July 12 and November 6 these tables should not be on a separate template space since this violates the policy on article content being transcluding through template space. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 01:40, 19 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

November 18[edit]

Template:Format ISBN[edit]

This template is not used in any articles. The only thing it does is convert un-hyphenated ISBNs into hyphenated ISBNs. But why? Hyphens in the ISBNs do not matter in WP:Book sources. (See my user-talkpage for some recent discussion on the topic.) – S. Rich (talk) 05:09, 18 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Let me add that invalid ISBN should be removed – period. If editors cannot find an "actual" ISBN, then posting an invalid ISBN does not help. Why? ISBNs seen as properly formated citations will link to Book sources. If we post "invalid" ISBNs, then we only waste time when readers click the invalid ISBN and come up with a non-helpful Book source page. Best to simply post a "ISBN missing" message. – S. Rich (talk) 05:57, 19 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:Frequency (franchise)[edit]

Just like the (now blocked for socking) editors other navboxes this seems like a hodgepodge of mildly related pieces of media in an attempt to create a franchise. If all the nonsense was cut like I've done with the other ones it would probably only have 2 to 4 articles, max. ★Trekker (talk) 01:15, 11 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 04:28, 18 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • Comment This is the only edit by this IP. Possibly from the sockpuppet who made all these film navboxes. Still doesn't merit keeping. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 23:19, 18 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Delete Classic example of WP:SYNTH being used to make up a topic. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 06:14, 19 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:2010 USSF Division 2 Pro League combined table[edit]

No transclusions. –Aidan721 (talk) 00:15, 18 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

2019–20 Arab Club Champions Cup group tables[edit]

Subst to 2019–20 Arab Club Champions Cup preliminary round and transclude section –Aidan721 (talk) 00:10, 18 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:2018 Intercontinental Cup Table[edit]

Subst to 2018 Intercontinental Cup (India) and delete. Transclude section for other transclusion. –Aidan721 (talk) 00:09, 18 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

FIFA World Cup qualification – CONCACAF templates[edit]

Subst and delete. Translude section. –Aidan721 (talk) 00:08, 18 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

November 17[edit]

Template:Current U.S. senators from Alabama[edit]

All are single-use and should be substituted on respective articles. Based on previous discussions of unused templates like these on July 12 and November 6 these tables should not be on a separate template space since this violates the policy on article content being transcluding through template space. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 23:58, 17 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Delete as creator. It is a whole set of templates, now that the rest are deleted, these may also be deleted along with its category. —CX Zoom[he/him] (let's talk • {C•X}) 13:37, 18 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:Rdconfigarray[edit]

Last usage of Template:Rdconfigarray outside of (abandoned) sandboxes was removed in Special:Diff/1121133052. —⁠andrybak (talk) 17:49, 10 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Wikipedia:Reference desk/header/deskopts should be deleted as well – it is directly used only in Template:Rdconfigarray. This is a follow up to Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Obsolete Reference desk subpages. —⁠andrybak (talk) 17:51, 10 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 23:57, 17 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:Soroban diagram[edit]

No transclusions except in one editor's sandbox. Created in 2013. At Soroban, images appear to be used without any trouble. – Jonesey95 (talk) 16:54, 17 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:People from Biratnagar[edit]

Navbox that is really a category. There is no inherent connection among these people. Remove from affected articles after ensuring that Category:People from Biratnagar is applied to each one, if appropriate. – Jonesey95 (talk) 16:51, 17 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:OA journal[edit]

No transclusions in article space. No documentation or categories. Created in 2013, does not appear to have been adopted. Subst and delete. – Jonesey95 (talk) 16:47, 17 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:MotR[edit]

Template proposed in 2019 for a very specific use, but not adopted. Also, it has 16(!) unnamed parameters, which is a recipe for disaster. Subst and delete, or userfy. – Jonesey95 (talk) 16:45, 17 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Module:Class/data[edit]

Unused, superseded by Module:Class/definition.json * Pppery * it has begun... 16:26, 17 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:MoB[edit]

No transclusions in article space. This appears to be an experiment proposed in 2009 but never adopted. Subst and delete. – Jonesey95 (talk) 16:12, 17 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:Argentina men's rugby sevens squad 2020 Summer Olympics[edit]

Unused squad navbox and a non-winning team. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 15:53, 17 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:Date style[edit]

No transclusions. This was an ambitious proposal from 2008 for automatic date formatting of wikilinked dates via reader preferences, both of which have been rejected. CS1 citation templates have since adopted the use of {{use dmy dates}} to format citation template dates. This template can be substed and deleted. – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:47, 17 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:Hawthorn best and fairest (AFL Women's)[edit]

A template with one entry, for a non notable award. Fram (talk) 13:23, 17 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • Delete per nom. * Pppery * it has begun... 16:26, 17 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 23:49, 18 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Keep – this is ridiculous; it's an AFLW club best and fairest award that at least warrants mentioning in the player's article, even if the award isn't considered ready to have its own article yet, so what's wrong with/what's the rule against having a navbox? 4TheWynne (talk • contribs) 01:01, 19 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:Oregon law schools[edit]

No main article, and there are not enough schools to satisfy the generally accepted practice at WP:NENAN. The state of Oregon has only three law schools. A category is sufficient. – Jonesey95 (talk) 06:23, 17 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Soon to be part of a larger navbox for the Oregon judicial system.Mtsmallwood (talk) 06:40, 17 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Mtsmallwood, see Template:Navbox#Subgroups example for how to create subgroups in a navbox. – Jonesey95 (talk) 16:15, 17 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

November 16[edit]

Template:1932 East-West League standings[edit]

No transclusions. Transcluded from section. –Aidan721 (talk) 23:41, 16 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

National Association standings templates[edit]

No transclusions. Transcluded from section. –Aidan721 (talk) 23:16, 16 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:PSG Pati squad[edit]

PSG Pati stopped playing in 2021 and later renamed themselves to F.C. Bekasi City. In the F.C. Bekasi City article, the Fs player template is used for the roster. Therefore, the PSG Pati template is no longer needed. MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 22:32, 16 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:2010 Pacific League standings[edit]

Move content to 2010 Nippon Professional Baseball season and transclude section. –Aidan721 (talk) 21:43, 16 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:2010 Central League standings[edit]

Single use. Subst and delete. –Aidan721 (talk) 21:42, 16 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:2009 Pacific League standings[edit]

Move content to 2009 Nippon Professional Baseball season and transclude section. –Aidan721 (talk) 21:42, 16 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:2009 Central League standings[edit]

Move content to 2009 Nippon Professional Baseball season and transclude section. –Aidan721 (talk) 21:41, 16 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:2008 Pacific League standings[edit]

Move content to 2008 Nippon Professional Baseball season and transclude section. –Aidan721 (talk) 21:40, 16 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:2008 Central League standings[edit]

Single use. Subst and delete. –Aidan721 (talk) 21:40, 16 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:2007 Pacific League standings[edit]

Move content to 2007 Nippon Professional Baseball season and transclude section. –Aidan721 (talk) 21:39, 16 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:2007 Central League standings[edit]

Single use. Subst and delete. –Aidan721 (talk) 21:38, 16 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:2006 Pacific League standings[edit]

No transclusions. –Aidan721 (talk) 21:37, 16 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:CN-railway-routemap[edit]

Unused, and duplicates {{Railway-routemap}}. Useddenim (talk) 15:41, 16 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:2010–11 Australian Baseball League[edit]

Fails WP:NENAN. –Aidan721 (talk) 13:17, 16 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:Josh Shapiro series[edit]

There is no "series about Josh Shapiro". There is one article, and that's Josh Shapiro. There are also articles about the three statewide elections he's won, but that doesn't necessitate a "series" template that mainly links to sections of the main article. Even if the electoral history section were split to a separate page (which I don't think is necessary), this template doesn't serve a purpose. Reywas92Talk 11:25, 16 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:OGTT2[edit]

Single-transclusion template containing article content. Subst and delete. – Jonesey95 (talk) 06:44, 16 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:Ref supports[edit]

No transclusions in article space. Created in 2014, perhaps as a test. Does not appear to have been adopted. – Jonesey95 (talk) 06:38, 16 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:SW Ship[edit]

No transclusions or documentation or categories. Created in 2006. – Jonesey95 (talk) 06:35, 16 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:TP stop[edit]

No documentation, incoming links, or categories. Used in one user sandbox page. Subst and delete, or userfy. – Jonesey95 (talk) 06:34, 16 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:Backlinks[edit]

No transclusions. Created in 2004. Note that there is a TFD that points to a redirect to this template, but the TFD appears to have been for a template that was different from this one. The redirect was created four years after the TFD. – Jonesey95 (talk) 04:34, 16 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:Hip[edit]

Redundant welcome template with confusing name. Not needed. – Jonesey95 (talk) 04:32, 16 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:Il[edit]

As far as I can tell, this template is not being used for its original purpose anywhere. I examined about a third of the transclusions, and most, but not all, appear to be typos for {{ill}}. Sometimes, problems like this are caused by direct copying and pasting from Wikipedias in other languages, but I looked at a few obvious Wikipedias (fr, de, es, it) but did not find a template with this name. I think that this template should be deleted and possibly salted so that this ambiguous two-letter name is not used by accident.

Each of the transclusions of this template, either before or after deletion, will need to be examined and converted to the correct template or wikitext; most, but not all, of them will be {{ill}}. – Jonesey95 (talk) 04:28, 16 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 23:25, 16 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Comment/Update: I have fixed all of the transclusions. They were all errors, mostly intended as {{ill}}, but there were a couple of inexplicable ones wrapping math tags and a couple that were intended as File: links. Given that I found at least three different intended uses of this template, I think this needs to be salted due to clear confusion about what these two letters can mean. – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:34, 17 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Delete and salt Unused template with an unclear purpose and an evidently unclear name. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 02:26, 18 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:Rcs[edit]

Simple external link template with only one transclusion in the creator's user page. No documentation. Subst and delete. – Jonesey95 (talk) 04:20, 16 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:Ussm[edit]

Template deprecated since 2007. No transclusions in article space, where it was intended to be used. – Jonesey95 (talk) 04:19, 16 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:Milestone nuclear explosions[edit]

Article content used in two pages. Either subst both and delete or subst into one article and use section transclusion to include it in the other article. – Jonesey95 (talk) 04:15, 16 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:Xpdn[edit]

No transclusions. – Jonesey95 (talk) 04:13, 16 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:Xpd0[edit]

No transclusions except in one template talk page. – Jonesey95 (talk) 04:05, 16 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:Piwc[edit]

No transclusions except in one discussion and one user page, respectively. Created in 2007–2008. Subst and delete. – Jonesey95 (talk) 04:04, 16 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:Links-core[edit]

No transclusions. Created in 2008. – Jonesey95 (talk) 04:02, 16 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:Xpda[edit]

No transclusions, categories, documentation, or incoming links from discussions. – Jonesey95 (talk) 04:02, 16 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:Sigdig[edit]

Redundant to the more feature-rich {{sigfig}}. – Jonesey95 (talk) 03:58, 16 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:Nscn[edit]

No transclusions except in one user test page. – Jonesey95 (talk) 03:47, 16 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:Wikidata value[edit]

No transclusions except in one sandbox page and one discussion. This functionality is presumably provided by a more well-developed template. – Jonesey95 (talk) 03:47, 16 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:Data Abu Dhabi[edit]

No transclusions except for a few old demo pages. It appears that if this template was ever useful, it has been superseded by something else. – Jonesey95 (talk) 03:30, 16 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:Linkd and related population templates[edit]

No transclusions. This template appears to have been used in the past, but seems to have been superseded by some other template or method. – Jonesey95 (talk) 03:27, 16 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:1966 FIFA World Cup group tables[edit]

No transclusions. Transcluded from articles. –Aidan721 (talk) 01:13, 16 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:John Cain Jr sidebar[edit]

Unused sidebar with no documentation or incoming links from discussions. I looked at the main article and was unable to determine what this sidebar might reasonably contain. OK to userfy if it is in development. – Jonesey95 (talk) 00:10, 9 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Jonesey95 Hello, sorry about that, I created it and forgot about it. I have added the bulk of content. While there's still a bit more to add it should be up to standard. - GA Melbourne (talk) 00:39, 9 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Keep - since nomination, the template has been populated with content and is now featured on main space articles.- GA Melbourne (talk) 07:22, 9 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Keep Now that the issues from the nomination have been fixed and are now being used on related articles. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 18:44, 10 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Delete. Consists only of inter-article links or links to articles that barely mention Cain. Just clogging space ITBF (talk) 11:25, 13 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 00:52, 16 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

November 15[edit]

Template:Trade unions in the Philippines navbox[edit]

Delete due to the sea of red (see WP:EXISTING). Unless this template is revamped, it would probably be better just to represent any respective articles with a category. Steel1943 (talk) 18:29, 8 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • Keep per WP:Existing; which states Red links can be retained in navigation templates that represent a well-defined and complete set of data and furthermore, if you disagree about some specific red links, it does not invalidate the usefulness of the existing blue links and the template itself ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 22:43, 9 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    The main portion of the template relates to a subject without an article, thus why even if that section were removed, the whole template would need a complete overhaul to be useful. WP:TNT applies. Steel1943 (talk) 16:11, 10 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 23:42, 15 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

1994 FIFA World Cup templates[edit]

No transclusions. Transcluded from article. –Aidan721 (talk) 23:12, 15 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:2026 FIFA World Cup qualification – CONMEBOL table[edit]

Single use template. Subst and delete. –Aidan721 (talk) 19:41, 15 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

The table is important to keep up with the eventual updates for the 2026 FIFA World Cup qualifiers for the South American sector. There is no point to ask for its removal, as it is a essential way to inform readers, researchers and even the supporters of the participating national association football teams. 2804:14D:BE8A:94AA:1DFF:142A:B6FA:99F8 (talk) 19:37, 16 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
IP, I'm aware that the table is important. However, you'll notice that it'll be moved to the article space as I said it'll be "Substited and deleted". The information will not be lost, but the template is not needed. –Aidan721 (talk) 21:34, 16 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:2017 KBO League standings[edit]

No translcusions. Redundant to standings table in article –Aidan721 (talk) 19:01, 15 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:2000-01 IBLA standings[edit]

Merge into 2000–01 International Baseball League of Australia Development League and transclude section. –Aidan721 (talk) 18:48, 15 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:2016 Euro League Baseball standings[edit]

Merge into Euro League Baseball and transclude section. –Aidan721 (talk) 18:44, 15 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Delete per nomination Wild8oar (talk) 19:09, 15 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:1997–98 ABL standings[edit]

Merge into 1997–98 Australian Baseball League season and transclude section. –Aidan721 (talk) 18:38, 15 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:2010–11 ABL standings[edit]

Merge into 2010–11 Australian Baseball League season and transclude section. –Aidan721 (talk) 18:38, 15 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:2011–12 ABL standings[edit]

Merge into 2011–12 Australian Baseball League season and transclude section. –Aidan721 (talk) 18:37, 15 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:2012–13 ABL standings[edit]

Merge into 2012–13 Australian Baseball League season and transclude section. –Aidan721 (talk) 18:37, 15 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:2013–14 ABL standings[edit]

Merge into 2013–14 Australian Baseball League season. –Aidan721 (talk) 18:36, 15 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:CS Aerostar Bacău squad[edit]

Only one link. No navigational benefit is fulfilled. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 18:35, 15 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:2014–15 ABL standings[edit]

Merge into 2014–15 Australian Baseball League season. –Aidan721 (talk) 18:35, 15 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:AFC Dacia Unirea Brăila squad[edit]

Only links to two articles. Fails NENAN. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 18:34, 15 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:2015–16 ABL standings[edit]

Merge into 2015–16 Australian Baseball League season. –Aidan721 (talk) 18:34, 15 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:2016–17 ABL standings[edit]

Merge into 2016–17 Australian Baseball League season. –Aidan721 (talk) 18:34, 15 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Honkbal Hoofdklasse standings templates[edit]

Single use templates. Subst and delete. –Aidan721 (talk) 18:29, 15 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

World Baseball Classic brackets[edit]

Single use templates. Merge content into 2023 World Baseball Classic qualification. –Aidan721 (talk) 15:57, 15 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

2017 World Baseball Classic bracket templates[edit]

Merge content of qualification brackets into 2017 World Baseball Classic – Qualifier 1, 2017 World Baseball Classic – Qualifier 2, 2017 World Baseball Classic – Qualifier 3, 2017 World Baseball Classic – Qualifier 4 and transclude sections into 2017 World Baseball Classic qualification. Merge content of championship bracket into 2017 World Baseball Classic championship and transclude section into 2017 World Baseball Classic. –Aidan721 (talk) 15:27, 15 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

2017 World Baseball Classic standings templates[edit]

Merge content into 2017 World Baseball Classic Pool A, 2017 World Baseball Classic Pool B, 2017 World Baseball Classic Pool C, 2017 World Baseball Classic Pool D, 2017 World Baseball Classic Pool E, 2017 World Baseball Classic Pool F respectively and transclude section. –Aidan721 (talk) 15:12, 15 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:Santos F.C. (South Africa) squad[edit]

Delete. The template is severely outdated, by 6.5 years. The team now plays on the third tier in South Africa, and I can't even find its current squad. (Soccerway does not have an updated one.) 80.203.59.161 (talk) 09:16, 15 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:Jomo Cosmos F.C. squad[edit]

Delete. The template is severely outdated, by 3.5 years. The team now plays on the third tier in South Africa, and I can't even find its current squad. (Their own website is dead, whereas Soccerway has last year's roster.) 80.203.59.161 (talk) 09:16, 15 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

November 14[edit]

Template:FC Astra Giurgiu squad[edit]

The club was dissolved on 19 October 2022, so no need for a squad template. I propose to be deleted. Rhinen (talk) 17:19, 14 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:Sexual Orientation[edit]

Looks like a (non-functional) attempt to make an infobox for sexual orientations, but such a template already exists as {{Infobox gender and sexual identity}}. This template is used only on a personal essay at Draft:Spectrosexuality. Belbury (talk) 15:41, 14 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:Platinum Stars F.C. squad[edit]

Delete. The club was discontinued in 2018, and as such has no players, and no need for a navigational template. 80.203.59.161 (talk) 09:15, 14 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:Doctor Who Unbound[edit]

There are no articles in this template as all of the audio dramas links redirect to Doctor Who Unbound. Per WP:NENAN, there's not enough articles in this template. I don't think this template needs redirecting either. MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 01:26, 14 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

November 13[edit]

Template:Globes[edit]

Broken template that depends on various bits of code that do not exist (and should not exist) here. A citation template for this website could be created, but it would be better to start from scratch as a wrapper for {{cite web}} than try to copy it from somewhere else. * Pppery * it has begun... 15:29, 6 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

do you can to help me on this? נתנאל שטרן (talk) 12:50, 7 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 23:39, 13 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:Educational subjects[edit]

Redundant to Template:Education. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 22:16, 13 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:Hoi King SA squad[edit]

Unused. Blanked back in 2019 and once again in 2020. Unlikely the current team will have articles to give this template a second chance of passing the minimum number of links for this to be used and/or kept. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 22:12, 13 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:Max Media of Pennsylvania[edit]

Unused and no longer up to date. Redundant to Template:Max Media. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 22:09, 13 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:Mazandaran labelled map[edit]

Unused map. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 22:08, 13 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:Progress World Women's Championship[edit]

Unused. Template:Progress Wrestling World Women's Championship is being used in its place. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 21:53, 13 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:Shooting at the 2026 Commonwealth Games[edit]

No links to articles and transclusions. Created four years early. Would recommend being a subpage of the creator until it's ready for use. No point in letting this sit around for three to four years with no pages created for the template until the tournament starts. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 21:47, 13 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template is now in use at the main article (which may seem early, but there's been an unusual amount of coverage and discussion on this topic because Shooting was excluded from the 2022 CWG and much gnashing of teeth in the sport about it being included again). Hemmers (talk) 14:48, 15 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
You haven't added this anywhere. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 18:03, 15 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Delete not enough blue links, as it's way too soon for this template to exist. The red linked articles won't exist until 2026, which is when this template should be re-created. Joseph2302 (talk) 15:38, 18 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:State Results of the 1804 U.S. presidential election[edit]

All are unused and duplicate templates already being used. See Template:State results of the 1804 U.S. presidential election, Template:State results of the 1808 U.S. presidential election, Template:State results of the 1812 U.S. presidential election, and Template:State results of the 1816 U.S. presidential election. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 21:40, 13 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:Swords (Spanish card suit)[edit]

Unused. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 21:38, 13 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:St Mark's National Theological Centre[edit]

Infoboxes should not be created for a specific article. The main article has one already. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 21:38, 13 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:Kamen Rider Hibiki[edit]

Three links. Fails NENAN. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 21:27, 13 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:French Senator[edit]

Unused and nothing but a link to the French Senate article. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 21:18, 13 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:Current provincial governments in Canada[edit]

Unused and should be substituted or transcluded on related articles. A template that's continuously being updated should be used somewhere. But if not then it should be deleted. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 20:48, 13 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

New Jersey senate and congress templates[edit]

Not real templates, stores article text which is a violation of WP:TG. All templates should be substed and deleted. Same rationale as in November 3 TFD of New Jersey commisioner templates applies. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 09:51, 13 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • Keep I agree with comments made by Alansohn in the previous discussion (November 3 TFD of New Jersey commisioner templates). These templates make it significantly easier to update information across "literally" hundreds of pages. But if you are volunteering to individually change every single NJ municipal page when new officials are elected, be my guest and delete these. JerseyThroughandThrough (talk) 06:56, 16 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    WP:TG says Templates should not normally be used to store article text, as this makes it more difficult to edit the content. which is why the previous templates were correctly deleted, and exactly why these should all be deleted too. Article text should be in articles not templates. If you need repetition of text in multiple articles, use section transcluson. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 13:38, 17 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Explain 'section transclusion' and link to it please, since that is your suggestion solution.Djflem (talk) 06:58, 18 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Keep One only has to look at the aftermath of the last wave of deletions to see the truly disruptive nature of these TfDs. There are 40 articles that used the now-defunct Template:NJ Burlington County Freeholders, all of which have been substituted with the content of the template, as at this edit by our nominator, along with 39 others. When the information that was in that template changes, as it will in January, it's impossible to update the data by making ONE edit to ONE template. Now FORTY articles need to be updated one-by-one and the content needs to be kept in sync across all FORTY articles, not ONE template. Wikipedia is worse off for this senseless wave of deletions, as the deletion of the template makes it more difficult to edit the content; FORTY times more difficult. Alansohn (talk) 16:54, 17 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Keep These templates make it significantly easier to add information to the hundreds of pages where they included, thus keeping them up-to-date after election cycles. They are of great benefit to the encyclopedia, despite claim.Djflem (talk) 07:02, 18 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Delete as per the previous TFDs, and use WP:SELECTIVETRANSCLUSION if the same text is needed in multiple articles. The purpose of templates is navigation, not storing article text. Joseph2302 (talk) 15:36, 18 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

New Jersey legislative templates[edit]

Not real templates, stores article text which is a violation of WP:TG. All templates should be substed and deleted. Same rationale as in November 3 TFD of New Jersey commisioner templates applies. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 09:32, 13 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • Keep These templates make it significantly easier to add information to the hundreds of pages where it they included., thus keeping them up-to-date after election cycles. Djflem (talk) 16:55, 16 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    WP:TG says Templates should not normally be used to store article text, as this makes it more difficult to edit the content. which is why the previous templates were correctly deleted, and exactly why these should all be deleted too. Article text should be in articles not templates. If you need repetition of text in multiple articles, use section transcluson. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 13:38, 17 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    What is the suggestion you are making? How does that work? And who is going to do it?Djflem (talk) 06:56, 18 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Can you link to 'section transclusion'? Djflem (talk) 06:57, 18 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    @Djflem: see WP:SELECTIVETRANSCLUSION. Hassium#Introduction to the heaviest elements is an example in article. It doesn't make sense to delete only half of the related templates, while ignoring others that meet the same criteria. Pings to other participants of the previous TFD @PerpetuityGrat, Joseph2302, and Pppery:. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 11:59, 18 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    So you in favour deleting the years of work that has gone into these templates, but are unwilling to do the work to transfer them to your preferred method of keeping the text? Djflem (talk) 16:19, 18 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Keep One only has to look at the aftermath of the last wave of deletions to see the truly disruptive nature of these TfDs. There are 40 articles that used the now-defunct Template:NJ Burlington County Freeholders, all of which have been substituted with the content of the template, as at this edit by our nominator, along with 39 others. When the information that was in that template changes, as it will in January, it's impossible to update the data by making ONE edit to ONE template. Now FORTY articles need to be updated one-by-one and the content needs to be kept in sync across all FORTY articles, not ONE template. Wikipedia is worse off for this senseless wave of deletions, as the deletion of the template makes it more difficult to edit the content; FORTY times more difficult. Alansohn (talk) 16:54, 17 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Delete as per the previous TFDs, and use WP:SELECTIVETRANSCLUSION if the same text is needed in multiple articles. The purpose of templates is navigation, not storing article text. Joseph2302 (talk) 15:37, 18 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    So you are willing to transfer the material and the years of work gone into them to your preferred method of keeping the text? Djflem (talk) 16:20, 18 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Not "my preferred method", the one that follows Wikipedia guidelines. You don't get to just ignore template guidelines because you feel like it. And nope, I have no subject interest so won't personally be doing it, but it is a fix that ought to be done by someone. Joseph2302 (talk) 18:54, 18 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    And you don't feel like doing anything to save the hard work put into information, and ignore the fact they improve of the articles in which it's included (and thus the encyclopedia) and prefer to see it deletion, which is damaging. Djflem (talk) 20:10, 18 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:Mpumalanga Black Aces F.C. squad[edit]

Delete. The club ceased to exist in 2016, and as such has no players, and no need for a navigational template. 80.203.59.161 (talk) 09:16, 13 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Second batch of New Jersey county commissioner templates[edit]

Violates WP:TG by storing article text. All templates should be substed and deleted. This is a follow up of November 3 TFD, same rationale applies here. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 07:49, 13 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • Keep (Same as above) I agree with comments made by Alansohn in the previous discussion (November 3 TFD of New Jersey commisioner templates). These templates make it significantly easier to update information across "literally" hundreds of pages. But if you are volunteering to individually change every single NJ municipal page when new officials are elected, be my guest and delete these. JerseyThroughandThrough (talk) 06:56, 16 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    WP:TG says Templates should not normally be used to store article text, as this makes it more difficult to edit the content. which is why the previous templates were correctly deleted, and exactly why these should all be deleted too. Article text should be in articles not templates. If you need repetition of text in multiple articles, use section transcluson. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 13:38, 17 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Keep One only has to look at the aftermath of the last wave of deletions to see the truly disruptive nature of these TfDs. There are 40 articles that used the now-defunct Template:NJ Burlington County Freeholders, all of which have been substituted with the content of the template, as at this edit by our nominator, along with 39 others. When the information that was in that template changes, as it will in January, it's impossible to update the data by making ONE edit to ONE template. Now FORTY articles need to be updated one-by-one and the content needs to be kept in sync across all FORTY articles, not ONE template. Wikipedia is worse off for this senseless wave of deletions, as the deletion of the template makes it more difficult to edit the content; FORTY times more difficult. Alansohn (talk) 16:55, 17 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Keep Exteremely useful for maintaining up-to-date information in multiply article that changes regularly, thus of great benefit to encylopedia. Djflem (talk) 07:11, 18 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Keep: I agree with Djflem points as well. They allow for rapidly changing information to be updated without having to sift through hundreds of pages at a time. GigachadGigachad (talk) 17:57, 18 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Delete as per the previous TFDs, and use WP:SELECTIVETRANSCLUSION if the same text is needed in multiple articles. The purpose of templates is navigation, not storing article text. Note to closer: All of these above keep votes are in violation of WP:TG, as they are based on "it's too much work to use a proper method of doing it". And any post saying the change needs to be made 40 times anytime you update is factually incorrect, as WP:SELECTIVETRANSCLUSION allows it to be changed once and applied everywhere. Joseph2302 (talk) 18:57, 18 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    So then what is this doing at TFD? If indeed the method of storage is the problem then that should have been taken to the talk pages of the templates to be discussed or been actually been added to the articles using a different one. Deletion will only lead to the loss of the information/content, which is not the the point of the contention, and lead to the loss of years of work and damage the encyclopedia. Djflem (talk) 04:59, 19 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Old discussions[edit]

November 12

Template:Ted

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Navbox created by blocked sockpuppet. Redundant to {{Seth MacFarlane}}. – Jonesey95 (talk) 18:24, 12 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • Keep Enough links for a navbox and there is a franchise associated with Ted despite the creation by the sockpuppet. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 18:17, 13 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:Turner & Hooch

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Navbox with only two real links in the body. Created by blocked sockpuppet. – Jonesey95 (talk) 18:23, 12 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:Trainspotting

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Navbox created by sockpuppet, and almost entirely redundant to {{Irvine Welsh}}. Merge into {{Irvine Welsh}}. – Jonesey95 (talk) 18:20, 12 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:The Breakfast Club

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Contains only one link in the navbox body. – Jonesey95 (talk) 18:14, 12 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Completed discussions[edit]

A list of completed discussions that still require action taken on the template(s) — for example, a merge between two infoboxes — can be found at the "Holding Cell".

For an index of all old and archived discussions, see Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/Archives.

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