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[4Khoa] Re: Frank Talk

This is to clarify and make coherently specific the points I was trying to
make. I'll use specific illustration.

1. Your being gay is alien to me. It is an experience I can't relate.

2. If it is alien, would it be _unreasonable_ of me to have uneasiness about it?

3. Given the media exposure about sexual solicitation and the general
perception that "your kind" of people act in demonstrably reckless
behavior, without disregard to "moral" norms (eg. soliciting children or
young people for sex, three-some), would it be _unreasonable_ of me to
maintain a negative perception?

If I were really religious, you may speculate about my view/position
toward you.

4. If I have this conviction about you, is it unreasonable for me to protect
my children from your behavior?

5. Where in the world do I hear of you being critical of "your kind"? Where
in the world to I get a sense of moral likeness? This thread has been
the first where I see/hear this, btw.

Just a few thoughts to kick the ball around.


> 
> > > > But believe it or not, your identity as being a gay person is dependent
> > > > on what the gay community (i.e. gay men) is as a whole.
> > > Sorry, Dave...I refuse to own up to that kind of victim-mentality.  Who
> 
> That's valid at a personal level.
> 
> > Think about this:  "your identity as being a '***' person is dependent 
> > on what the '***' community is as a whole."
> 
> This is a reality and a real constraint at a social level. Example would
> be the model minority myth and the sweeping of problems confront youths
> in the Asian community. Minority community faces the same challenge in
> terms of fair representation. Till the media and the general population
> possess enough exposure and understanding, each individual within the
> community has potential to impact on the general perception.
> 
> Self-vicitimization seems to me the point at which one relegates the
> responsibility of happiness to others. I certainly don't see how an awareness
> about:
> 
> 1. the interdependence between individual and group identities, or
> 2. constraints faced by a minority sub-culture against the mainstream culture
> 
> would constitute an advocacy for irresponsible behavior, warranting a label
> of 'victimization.' I'd appreciate an explanation from Khoa and/or anyone
> else. I simply don't see it and can't relate to the suggested characterization.
> 
> What we are talking about here's been a relationship between a *subset* of
> experience and that which exists in general.  How does one establish a
> meaningful communication between the two so that human ignorance would be
> less of a compelling and determining force in human interaction.
> 
> Any philospher-psychologist in the house? :=)
> 
> Regards,
> 
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