Medium Format SLR Lens Availability Pages
by Robert Monaghan

Related Local Pages:
Aux. Lens Adapters (wide/tele) Pages
Fisheye and Ultrawide (0.42X) Lens Adapters
Lens Availability Table (Excel spreadsheet)
Lens Mount Adapters Pages
Telephoto Lenses
Wide Angle Lenses

Article Table Links:
6x4.5 SLR Lenses [Mamiya 645; Pentax 645; Bronica ETRSi 645]
6x6cm SLR Lenses [Bronica SQA-I, SQ-B; Hasselblad 50x/20x; Rollei 600x SLRs]
6x7cm SLR Lenses [Bronica GS-1; Pentax 67; Mamiya RB67 Pro and RZ67]
All SLR Lenses [all 6x4.5, 6x6, and 6x7cm below]
Hasselblad C Lenses Sold Table [lens sales and popularity versus renting]
Minimum Focusing Distance of MF Lenses Table (+ weights, filter sizes)

Here is a table of current medium format lenses for 6x4.5cm, 6x6cm, and 6x7cm SLR users. I have sorted by focal length and B&H; price. Use the Excel 5 spreadsheet to check out your own interests. Source is the B&H; Professional Photo Sourcebook (first edition). See notes for comments...


All SLR Lenses - 6x4.5cm, 6x6cm, 6x7cm - sorted by focal length and cost:

focal length aperture cost B&H model shutter format type notes
24 4 $2,115 Mam PRO fp 64.5 SLR fisheye
30 3.5 $2,925 ETRSi PE leaf 64.5 SLR fisheye
30 3.5 $3,999 rollei sl66 fp 66 SLR fisheye
30 3.5 $4,495 rollei PQ leaf 66 SLR fisheye
30 3.5 $5,797 hassy CF leaf 66 SLR fisheye
35 3.5 $800 pentax A fp 64.5 SLR
35 3.5 $1,029 Mam PRO fp 64.5 SLR
35 4.5 $1,200 pentax67 fp 67 SLR fisheye
35 3.5 $3,095 SQAI PS leaf 66 SLR fisheye
37 4.5 $2,690 RB67Pro leaf 67 SLR fisheye
37 4.5 $2,690 RZ67 leaf 67 SLR fisheye
40 4 $1,315 ETRSi PE leaf 64.5 SLR
40 4 $1,800 SQAI PS leaf 66 SLR
40 3.5 $3,995 rollei PQ leaf 66 SLR SA (super ang.)
40 4 $3,995 hassy CF leaf 66 SLR
40 4 $4,195 rollei PQ leaf 66 SLR
40 4 $4,799 rollei sl66 fp 66 SLR
45 2.8 $730 pentax A fp 64.5 SLR
45 2.8 $839 Mam PRO fp 64.5 SLR
45 2.8 $851 pentax FA fp 64.5 SLR autofocus
45 4 $900 pentax67 fp 67 SLR
50 2.8 $1,199 ETRSi PE leaf 64.5 SLR
50 4 $1,399 Mam PRO fp 64.5 SLR shift
50 3.5 $1,570 SQAI PS leaf 66 SLR
50 4.5 $1,640 RB67Pro leaf 67 SLR
50 4.5 $1,640 RZ67 leaf 67 SLR
50 4.5 $1,700 bronicags1 leaf 67 SLR
50 4 $1,999 rollei PQ leaf 66 SLR
50 4 $2,399 rollei sl66 fp 66 SLR
50 4 $2,696 hassy CF leaf 66 SLR FLE
50 2.8 $3,399 rollei PQS leaf 66 SLR SA (super ang.)
50 2.8 $3,778 hassy FLE fp 66 SLR
55 2.8 $630 pentax A fp 64.5 SLR
55 2.8 $665 Mam PRO fp 64.5 SLR
55 4 $900 pentax67 fp 67 SLR
55 2.8 $1,619 Mam PRO leaf 64.5 SLR leaf
55 4.5 $7,199 rollei PQ leaf 66 SLR tilt/shift SA..
60 2.8 $1,199 ETRSi PE leaf 64.5 SLR
60 3.5 $2,037 hassy CB leaf 66 SLR
60 3.5 $2,599 rollei PQ leaf 66 SLR
65 4 $1,435 SQAI PS leaf 66 SLR
65 4 $1,515 bronicags1 leaf 67 SLR
65 4 $1,860 RB67Pro leaf 67 SLR
65 4 $1,875 RZ67 leaf 67 SLR
75 2.8 $350 pentax A fp 64.5 SLR
75 2.8 $441 pentax FA fp 64.5 SLR autofocus
75 4.5 $580 pentax67 fp 67 SLR
75 2.8 $720 pentax A leaf 64.5 SLR leaf
75 2.8 $760 ETRSi PE leaf 64.5 SLR
75 3.5 $1,850 RB67Pro leaf 67 SLR
75 4.5 $2,100 pentax67 fp 67 SLR shift
75 4.5 $3,000 RB67Pro leaf 67 SLR PC shift
75 4.5 $3,170 RZ67 leaf 67 SLR PC shift
80 2.8 $499 Mam PRO fp 64.5 SLR
80 1.9 $665 Mam PRO fp 64.5 SLR
80 4 $1,055 Mam PRO fp 64.5 SLR macro
80 2.8 $1,100 SQAI PS leaf 66 SLR
80 2.8 $1,199 rollei sl66 fp 66 SLR
80 2.8 $1,299 Mam PRO leaf 64.5 SLR leaf
80 3.5 $1,348 bronicags1 leaf 67 SLR
80 2.8 $1,399 rollei PQ leaf 66 SLR
80 2.8 $1,499 rollei PQS leaf 66 SLR
80 2.8 $1,720 hassy CF leaf 66 SLR
80 2.8 $1,856 hassy FE fp 66 SLR
80 2 $3,199 rollei PQ leaf 66 SLR
90 2.8 $600 pentax67 fp 67 SLR
90 3.5 $1,390 RZ67 leaf 67 SLR
90 3.5 $1,600 RB67Pro leaf 67 SLR
90 4 $2,999 rollei PQS leaf 66 SLR macro APO
100 3.5 $1,150 bronicags1 leaf 67 SLR
100 4 $1,165 ETRSi PE leaf 64.5 SLR macro
100 3.5 $2,475 hassy CF leaf 66 SLR
105 2.4 $470 pentax67 fp 67 SLR
105 4.5 $1,294 ETRSi PE leaf 64.5 SLR macro
110 2.8 $1,430 RZ67 leaf 67 SLR
110 4 $1,570 SQAI PS leaf 66 SLR macro
110 4 $1,700 bronicags1 leaf 67 SLR macro
110 2 $3,731 hassy FE fp 66 SLR
120 3.5 $710 pentax67 fp 67 SLR soft focus
120 4 $760 pentax A fp 64.5 SLR macro
120 4 $1,499 Mam PRO fp 64.5 SLR macro
120 4 $2,774 hassy CF leaf 66 SLR macro
120 4 $2,999 rollei PQS leaf 66 SLR macro planar
120 4 $3,499 rollei sl66 fp 66 SLR macro
127 3.5 $1,490 RB67Pro leaf 67 SLR
135 4 $660 pentax67 fp 67 SLR macro
135 4 $890 pentax A leaf 64.5 SLR leaf
135 4 $1,135 ETRSi PE leaf 64.5 SLR
135 4 $1,450 SQAI PS leaf 66 SLR
135 5.6 $2,453 hassy CF leaf 66 SLR macro
140 4.5 $1,875 RB67Pro leaf 67 SLR macro
140 4.5 $1,875 RZ67 leaf 67 SLR macro
150 3.5 $580 pentax A fp 64.5 SLR
150 3.5 $599 Mam PRO fp 64.5 SLR
150 3.5 $1,199 ETRSi PE leaf 64.5 SLR
150 2.8 $1,469 Mam PRO fp 64.5 SLR
150 3.5 $1,480 RB67Pro leaf 67 SLR
150 3.5 $1,490 RZ67 leaf 67 SLR
150 4 $1,515 bronicags1 leaf 67 SLR
150 4 $1,570 SQAI PS leaf 66 SLR
150 3.8 $1,589 Mam PRO leaf 64.5 SLR leaf
150 4 $1,630 RB67Pro leaf 67 SLR soft focus
150 4 $2,199 rollei PQ leaf 66 SLR
150 4 $2,399 rollei sl66 fp 66 SLR
150 4 $2,399 rollei PQS leaf 66 SLR
150 4.6 $2,699 rollei leaf 66 SLR macro bellows
150 4 $2,756 hassy CF leaf 66 SLR
150 2.8 $3,265 hassy FE fp 66 SLR
160 4.8 $2,343 hassy CB leaf 66 SLR
165 2.8 $730 pentax67 fp 67 SLR
165 4 $810 pentax67 leaf 67 SLR leaf shutter
180 4.5 $1,515 RB67Pro leaf 67 SLR
180 4.5 $1,515 RZ67 leaf 67 SLR
180 4.5 $1,535 ETRSi PE leaf 64.5 SLR
180 4.5 $1,995 SQAI PS leaf 66 SLR
180 4 $2,995 hassy CF leaf 66 SLR
180 2.8 $3,399 rollei PQ leaf 66 SLR schneider
200 4 $680 pentax A fp 64.5 SLR
200 4 $790 pentax67 fp 67 SLR
200 4.5 $1,215 ETRSi PE leaf 64.5 SLR
200 4 $1,595 bronicags1 leaf 67 SLR
200 4.5 $1,675 SQAI PS leaf 66 SLR
200 2.8 $2,549 Mam PRO fp 64.5 SLR APO
210 4.5 $699 Mam PRO fp 64.5 SLR
210 4.5 $3,330 RB67Pro leaf 67 SLR APO
210 4.5 $3,330 RZ67 leaf 67 SLR APO
250 5.6 $1,325 ETRSi PE leaf 64.5 SLR
250 5.6 $1,700 bronicags1 leaf 67 SLR
250 5.6 $1,790 SQAI PS leaf 66 SLR
250 4.5 $1,940 RB67Pro leaf 67 SLR
250 4.5 $1,940 RZ67 leaf 67 SLR
250 5.6 $2,599 rollei PQ leaf 66 SLR
250 5.6 $2,799 rollei PQS leaf 66 SLR
250 5.6 $3,107 hassy CF leaf 66 SLR
250 5.6 $3,199 rollei sl66 fp 66 SLR
250 4 $3,498 hassy FE fp 66 SLR
250 4.5 $3,840 RB67Pro leaf 67 SLR APO
250 4.5 $3,840 RZ67 leaf 67 SLR APO
250 5.6 $5,024 hassy CF leaf 66 SLR APO
300 4 $1,300 pentax67 fp 67 SLR
300 5.6 $1,329 Mam PRO fp 64.5 SLR
300 4 $3,300 pentax A fp 64.5 SLR EDIF
300 4 $3,570 pentax FA fp 64.5 SLR EDIF AF
300 4 $4,199 rollei PQ leaf 66 SLR APO
300 2.8 $12,239 Mam PRO fp 64.5 SLR APO
350 5.6 $3,799 rollei PQ leaf 66 SLR
350 5.6 $4,290 RB67Pro leaf 67 SLR APO
350 5.6 $4,290 RZ67 leaf 67 SLR APO
350 5.6 $6,991 hassy CFE leaf 66 SLR S Achromat
350 4 $7,882 hassy FE fp 66 SLR
360 6.7 $2,225 RB67Pro leaf 67 SLR
400 5.6 $2,310 pentax FA fp 64.5 SLR EDIF AF
400 4 $5,800 pentax67 fp 67 SLR ED IF
500 5.6 $2,395 Mam PRO fp 64.5 SLR
500 5.6 $2,500 pentax67 fp 67 SLR
500 8 $3,079 SQAI PS leaf 66 SLR S
500 8 $3,189 ETRSi PE leaf 64.5 SLR EII
500 8 $4,099 rollei PQ leaf 66 SLR
500 8 $4,540 RZ67 leaf 67 SLR
500 8 $4,550 RB67Pro leaf 67 SLR
500 8 $5,673 hassy CF leaf 66 SLR
500 6.7 $6,000 RB67Pro leaf 67 SLR APO
500 6 $6,200 RZ67 leaf 67 SLR APO
500 8 $11,000 ETRSi PE leaf 64.5 SLR
500 8 $11,220 bronicags1 leaf 67 SLR
500 8 $11,424 SQAI PS leaf 66 SLR
500 4.5 $18,359 Mam PRO fp 64.5 SLR
600 4 $4,000 pentax67 fp 67 SLR
600 5.6 $5,000 pentax A fp 64.5 SLR EDIF
800 4 $7,300 pentax67 fp 67 SLR
800 6.7 $11,000 pentax67 fp 67 SLR ED IF
1000 8 $5,900 pentax67 fp 67 SLR mirror
1000 8 $20,999 rollei PQ leaf 66 SLR
1000 8 $24,999 rollei sl66 fp 66 SLR
1.4X $370 pentax A fp 64.5 SLR telecnvtr
1.4X $520 pentax67 fp 67 SLR telecnvrt
1.4X $815 ETRSi PE leaf 64.5 SLR telecnvtr
1.4X $865 SQAI PS 66 SLR telecnvtr
1.4X $870 RZ67 leaf 67 SLR telecnvtr
1.4X $900 bronicags1 leaf 67 SLR telecnvrt
1.4X $1,049 rollei PQ leaf 66 SLR telecnvtr
1.4X $1,055 hassy 66 SLR telecnvtr
1.4X shift $3,395 hassy 66 SLR telecnvtr
100-200 5.2 $3,740 RB67Pro leaf 67 SLR zoom
100-200 5.2 $3,740 RZ67 leaf 67 SLR zoom
100-220 4.8 $1,894 ETRSi PE leaf 64.5 SLR IF
140-280 5.6 $5,199 rollei PQ leaf 66 SLR macro zoom
140-280 5.6 $6,428 hassy CF leaf 66 SLR zoom
2X $430 pentax A fp 64.5 SLR telecnvtr
2X $590 pentax67 fp 67 SLR telecnvrt
2X $739 Mam PRO fp 64.5 SLR telecnvtr
2X $835 ETRSi PE leaf 64.5 SLR telecnvtr
2X $845 SQAI PS 66 SLR telecnvtr
2X $935 bronicags1 leaf 67 SLR telecnvrt
2X $999 rollei sl66 fp 66 SLR telecnvtr
2X $999 rollei PQ leaf 66 SLR telecnvtr
45-85 4.5 $1,500 pentax A fp 64.5 SLR zoom
45-85 4.5 $1,743 pentax FA fp 64.5 SLR zoom AF
45-90 4-5.6 $1,439 ETRSi PE leaf 64.5 SLR zoom asp.
50-100 4.5-5.6 ~$2,500* SQ-Ai PS leaf 66 SLR zoom
75-150 4.5 $4,799 rollei PQ leaf 66 SLR macro zoom
80-160 4.5 $1,380 pentax A fp 64.5 SLR zoom

6x4.5cm SLR Lenses - sorted by focal length and cost:

focal length aperture cost B&H model shutter format type notes
24 4 $2,115 Mam PRO fp 645 SLR fisheye
30 3.5 $2,925 ETRSi PE leaf 645 SLR fisheye
35 3.5 $800 pentax A fp 645 SLR
35 3.5 $1,029 Mam PRO fp 645 SLR
40 4 $1,315 ETRSi PE leaf 645 SLR
45 2.8 $730 pentax A fp 645 SLR
45 2.8 $839 Mam PRO fp 645 SLR
45 2.8 $851 pentax FA fp 645 SLR autofocus
50 2.8 $1,199 ETRSi PE leaf 645 SLR
50 4 $1,399 Mam PRO fp 645 SLR shift
55 2.8 $630 pentax A fp 645 SLR
55 2.8 $665 Mam PRO fp 645 SLR
55 2.8 $1,619 Mam PRO leaf 645 SLR leaf
60 2.8 $1,199 ETRSi PE leaf 645 SLR
75 2.8 $350 pentax A fp 645 SLR
75 2.8 $441 pentax FA fp 645 SLR autofocus
75 2.8 $720 pentax A leaf 645 SLR leaf
75 2.8 $760 ETRSi PE leaf 645 SLR
80 2.8 $499 Mam PRO fp 645 SLR
80 1.9 $665 Mam PRO fp 645 SLR
80 4 $1,055 Mam PRO fp 645 SLR macro
80 2.8 $1,299 Mam PRO leaf 645 SLR leaf
100 4 $1,165 ETRSi PE leaf 645 SLR macro
105 4.5 $1,294 ETRSi PE leaf 645 SLR macro
120 4 $760 pentax A fp 645 SLR macro
120 4 $1,499 Mam PRO fp 645 SLR macro
135 4 $890 pentax A leaf 645 SLR leaf
135 4 $1,135 ETRSi PE leaf 645 SLR
150 3.5 $580 pentax A fp 645 SLR
150 3.5 $599 Mam PRO fp 645 SLR
150 3.5 $1,199 ETRSi PE leaf 645 SLR
150 2.8 $1,469 Mam PRO fp 645 SLR
150 3.8 $1,589 Mam PRO leaf 645 SLR leaf
180 4.5 $1,535 ETRSi PE leaf 645 SLR
200 4 $680 pentax A fp 645 SLR
200 4.5 $1,215 ETRSi PE leaf 645 SLR
200 2.8 $2,549 Mam PRO fp 645 SLR APO
210 4 $699 Mam PRO fp 645 SLR
250 5.6 $1,325 ETRSi PE leaf 645 SLR
300 5.6 $1,329 Mam PRO fp 645 SLR
300 4 $3,300 pentax A fp 645 SLR EDIF
300 4 $3,570 pentax FA fp 645 SLR EDIF AF
300 2.8 $12,239 Mam PRO fp 645 SLR APO
400 5.6 $2,310 pentax FA fp 645 SLR EDIF AF
500 5.6 $2,395 Mam PRO fp 645 SLR
500 8 $3,189 ETRSi PE leaf 645 SLR EII
500 8 $11,000 ETRSi PE leaf 645 SLR
500 4.5 $18,359 Mam PRO fp 645 SLR
600 5.6 $5,000 pentax A fp 645 SLR EDIF
1.4X $370 pentax A fp 645 SLR telecnvtr
1.4X $815 ETRSi PE leaf 645 SLR telecnvtr
100-220 4.8 $1,894 ETRSi PE leaf 645 SLR IF
2X $430 pentax A fp 645 SLR telecnvtr
2X $739 Mam PRO fp 645 SLR telecnvtr
2X $835 ETRSi PE leaf 645 SLR telecnvtr
45-85 4.5 $1,500 pentax A fp 645 SLR zoom
45-85 4.5 $1,743 pentax FA fp 645 SLR zoom AF
45-90 4-5.6 $1,439 ETRSi PE leaf 645 SLR zoom asp.
80-160 4.5 $1,380 pentax A fp 645 SLR zoom

6x6cm SLR Lenses - sorted by focal length and cost:

focal length aperture cost B&H model shutter format type notes
30 3.5 $3,999 rollei sl66 fp 66 SLR fisheye
30 3.5 $4,495 rollei PQ leaf 66 SLR fisheye
30 3.5 $5,797 hassy CF leaf 66 SLR fisheye
35 3.5 $3,095 SQAI PS leaf 66 SLR fisheye
40 4 $1,800 SQAI PS leaf 66 SLR
40 3.5 $3,995 rollei PQ leaf 66 SLR SA (super ang.)
40 4 $3,995 hassy CF leaf 66 SLR
40 4 $4,195 rollei PQ leaf 66 SLR
40 4 $4,799 rollei sl66 fp 66 SLR
50 3.5 $1,570 SQAI PS leaf 66 SLR
50 4 $1,999 rollei PQ leaf 66 SLR
50 4 $2,399 rollei sl66 fp 66 SLR
50 4 $2,696 hassy CF leaf 66 SLR FLE
50 2.8 $3,399 rollei PQS leaf 66 SLR SA (super ang.)
50 2.8 $3,778 hassy FLE fp 66 SLR
55 4.5 $7,199 rollei PQ leaf 66 SLR tilt/shift SA..
60 3.5 $2,037 hassy CB leaf 66 SLR
60 3.5 $2,599 rollei PQ leaf 66 SLR
65 4 $1,435 SQAI PS leaf 66 SLR
80 2.8 $1,100 SQAI PS leaf 66 SLR
80 2.8 $1,199 rollei sl66 fp 66 SLR
80 2.8 $1,399 rollei PQ leaf 66 SLR
80 2.8 $1,499 rollei PQS leaf 66 SLR
80 2.8 $1,720 hassy CF leaf 66 SLR
80 2.8 $1,856 hassy FE fp 66 SLR
80 2 $3,199 rollei PQ leaf 66 SLR
90 4 $2,999 rollei PQS leaf 66 SLR macro APO
100 3.5 $2,475 hassy CF leaf 66 SLR
110 4 $1,570 SQAI PS leaf 66 SLR macro
110 2 $3,731 hassy FE fp 66 SLR
120 4 $2,774 hassy CF leaf 66 SLR macro
120 4 $2,999 rollei PQS leaf 66 SLR macro planar
120 4 $3,499 rollei sl66 fp 66 SLR macro
135 4 $1,450 SQAI PS leaf 66 SLR
135 5.6 $2,453 hassy CF leaf 66 SLR macro
150 4 $1,570 SQAI PS leaf 66 SLR
150 4 $2,199 rollei PQ leaf 66 SLR
150 4 $2,399 rollei PQS leaf 66 SLR
150 4 $2,399 rollei sl66 fp 66 SLR
150 4.6 $2,699 rollei leaf 66 SLR macro bellows
150 4 $2,756 hassy CF leaf 66 SLR
150 2.8 $3,265 hassy FE fp 66 SLR
160 4.8 $2,343 hassy CB leaf 66 SLR
180 4.5 $1,995 SQAI PS leaf 66 SLR
180 4 $2,995 hassy CF leaf 66 SLR
180 2.8 $3,399 rollei PQ leaf 66 SLR schneider
200 4.5 $1,675 SQAI PS leaf 66 SLR
250 5.6 $1,790 SQAI PS leaf 66 SLR
250 5.6 $2,599 rollei PQ leaf 66 SLR
250 5.6 $2,799 rollei PQS leaf 66 SLR
250 5.6 $3,107 hassy CF leaf 66 SLR
250 5.6 $3,199 rollei sl66 fp 66 SLR
250 4 $3,498 hassy FE fp 66 SLR
250 5.6 $5,024 hassy CF leaf 66 SLR APO
300 4 $4,199 rollei PQ leaf 66 SLR APO
350 5.6 $3,799 rollei PQ leaf 66 SLR
350 5.6 $6,991 hassy CFE leaf 66 SLR S Achromat
350 4 $7,882 hassy FE fp 66 SLR
500 8 $3,079 SQAI PS leaf 66 SLR S
500 8 $4,099 rollei PQ leaf 66 SLR
500 8 $5,673 hassy CF leaf 66 SLR
500 8 $11,424 SQAI PS leaf 66 SLR
1000 8 $20,999 rollei PQ leaf 66 SLR
1000 8 $24,999 rollei sl66 fp 66 SLR
1.4X $865 SQAI PS 66 SLR telecnvtr
1.4X $1,049 rollei PQ leaf 66 SLR telecnvtr
1.4X $1,055 hassy 66 SLR telecnvtr
1.4X shift $3,395 hassy 66 SLR telecnvtr
140-280 5.6 $5,199 rollei PQ leaf 66 SLR macro zoom
50-100 4.5-5.6 ~$2,500* SQAI PS leaf 66 SLR zoom
140-280 5.6 $6,428 hassy CF leaf 66 SLR zoom
2X $845 SQAI PS 66 SLR telecnvtr
2X $999 rollei PQ leaf 66 SLR telecnvtr
2X $999 rollei sl66 fp 66 SLR telecnvtr
75-150 4.5 $4,799 rollei PQ leaf 66 SLR macro zoom

6x7cm SLR Lenses, sorted by focal length and cost:

focal length aperture cost B&H model shutter format type notes
35 4.5 $1,200 pentax67 fp 67 SLR fisheye
37 4.5 $2,690 RB67Pro leaf 67 SLR fisheye
37 4.5 $2,690 RZ67 leaf 67 SLR fisheye
45 4 $900 pentax67 fp 67 SLR
50 4.5 $1,640 RB67Pro leaf 67 SLR
50 4.5 $1,640 RZ67 leaf 67 SLR
50 4.5 $1,700 bronicags1 leaf 67 SLR
55 4 $900 pentax67 fp 67 SLR
65 4 $1,515 bronicags1 leaf 67 SLR
65 4 $1,860 RB67Pro leaf 67 SLR
65 4 $1,875 RZ67 leaf 67 SLR
75 4.5 $580 pentax67 fp 67 SLR
75 3.5 $1,850 RB67Pro leaf 67 SLR
75 4.5 $2,100 pentax67 fp 67 SLR shift
75 4.5 $3,000 RB67Pro leaf 67 SLR PC shift
75 4.5 $3,170 RZ67 leaf 67 SLR PC shift
80 3.5 $1,348 bronicags1 leaf 67 SLR
90 2.8 $600 pentax67 fp 67 SLR
90 3.5 $1,390 RZ67 leaf 67 SLR
90 3.5 $1,600 RB67Pro leaf 67 SLR
100 3.5 $1,150 bronicags1 leaf 67 SLR
105 2.4 $470 pentax67 fp 67 SLR
110 2.8 $1,430 RZ67 leaf 67 SLR
110 4 $1,700 bronicags1 leaf 67 SLR macro
120 3.5 $710 pentax67 fp 67 SLR soft focus
127 3.5 $1,490 RB67Pro leaf 67 SLR
135 4 $660 pentax67 fp 67 SLR macro
140 4.5 $1,875 RB67Pro leaf 67 SLR macro
140 4.5 $1,875 RZ67 leaf 67 SLR macro
150 3.5 $1,480 RB67Pro leaf 67 SLR
150 3.5 $1,490 RZ67 leaf 67 SLR
150 4 $1,515 bronicags1 leaf 67 SLR
150 4 $1,630 RB67Pro leaf 67 SLR soft focus
165 2.8 $730 pentax67 fp 67 SLR
165 4 $810 pentax67 leaf 67 SLR leaf shutter
180 4.5 $1,515 RB67Pro leaf 67 SLR
180 4.5 $1,515 RZ67 leaf 67 SLR
200 4 $790 pentax67 fp 67 SLR
200 4.5 $1,595 bronicags1 leaf 67 SLR
210 4.5 $3,330 RB67Pro leaf 67 SLR APO
210 4.5 $3,330 RZ67 leaf 67 SLR APO
250 5.6 $1,700 bronicags1 leaf 67 SLR
250 4.5 $1,940 RB67Pro leaf 67 SLR
250 4.5 $1,940 RZ67 leaf 67 SLR
250 4.5 $3,840 RB67Pro leaf 67 SLR APO
250 4.5 $3,840 RZ67 leaf 67 SLR APO
300 4 $1,300 pentax67 fp 67 SLR
350 5.6 $4,290 RB67Pro leaf 67 SLR APO
350 5.6 $4,290 RZ67 leaf 67 SLR APO
360 6.7 $2,225 RB67Pro leaf 67 SLR
400 4 $5,800 pentax67 fp 67 SLR ED IF
500 5.6 $2,500 pentax67 fp 67 SLR
500 8 $4,540 RZ67 leaf 67 SLR
500 8 $4,550 RB67Pro leaf 67 SLR
500 6.7 $6,000 RB67Pro leaf 67 SLR APO
500 6 $6,200 RZ67 leaf 67 SLR APO
500 8 $11,220 bronicags1 leaf 67 SLR
600 4 $4,000 pentax67 fp 67 SLR
800 4 $7,300 pentax67 fp 67 SLR
800 6.7 $11,000 pentax67 fp 67 SLR ED IF
1000 8 $5,900 pentax67 fp 67 SLR mirror
1.4X $520 pentax67 fp 67 SLR telecnvrt
1.4X $870 RZ67 leaf 67 SLR telecnvtr
1.4X $900 bronicags1 leaf 67 SLR telecnvrt
100-200 5.2 $3,740 RB67Pro leaf 67 SLR zoom
100-200 5.2 $3,740 RZ67 leaf 67 SLR zoom
2X $590 pentax67 fp 67 SLR telecnvrt
2X $935 bronicags1 leaf 67 SLR telecnvrt

Notes: Prices are in US$ from B&H; catalog, rounded up. Focal length is obviously in millimeters. Fp is for focal plane shutter, versus leaf for leaf shutter systems. Formats are 6x4.5cm (64.5), 6x6cm (66), and 6x7cm (67). All lenses shown are for SLR cameras. Aperture is f/stop, e.g., 3.5 is f/3.5. The model column relates the manufacturer and model (see format). For 645 cameras, models are pentax 645, mamiya 645, and bronica ETRSi 645 cameras. For 6x6cm cameras, models are Rollei 600x series, Hasselblad 50x/20x SLR series, and Bronica SQAI and related bodies (SQ-B). Finally, for 6x7cm SLR cameras, models are Bronica GS-1, Pentax 67, and Mamiya RB67 Pro and Mamiya RZ67 series SLRs. The "notes" section highlights special features of each lens, such as tilt/shift capability, fisheye lenses, leaf shutters (if on focal plane model cameras), zooms, macro lenses, APO and specialty ED IF glasses, mirror lenses, soft focus offerings, and teleconverters. Hopefully, this column may help explain why one lens costs more than a similar lens on a different camera due to some specialty feature or capability.


Total Sales for Hasselblad C lenses, from the Hasselblad Compendium per posting:

24mm f3.5 F Distagon     - about 50          0.01%
30mm f3.5 F Distagon C   - under 1000        0.24%
40mm f4 Distagon C       - approx. 9,000     2.16%
50mm f4 Distagon C       - approx. 75,000   18.03% 
80mm f2.8 C Planar       - approx. 210,000  50.46%
105mm f4.3 UV (quartz)   - approx. 100       0.02%
120mm f5.6 S-Planar      - approx. 14,000    3.36%
150mm f4 Sonnar C        - approx. 70,000   16.82%
250mm f5.6 Sonnar C      - approx. 30,000    7.21%
350mm f5.6 Tele-Tessar C - approx. 3,000     0.72%
500mm f8 Tele-Tessar C   - approx. 4,000     0.96%

For non-SLR Hasselblads:
38mm Super Wide (Angle)  - approx.  2,000
38mm Super Wide C        - approx. 14,000
38mm SWC/M (incl. CF)    - approx.  6,000
[from Specialty Areas of Photography...]

Lens Sales Guide

The above tables show the many lenses available for medium format SLR users, whether in the 6x4.5cm, 6x6cm, or 6x7cm formats. But which lenses do I need to buy? Which can I safely rent? I find the table of lenses sold above to be very handy in suggesting which lenses are in demand, and which are rather specialized (and perhaps best rented?). If I plan on buying a lens that is infrequently used, I should have a good reason and need for it based on specialty photography requirements for that optic.

What is the typical medium format SLR lens user profile in terms of lenses owned and used? The short answer is that roughly 85% of all Hasselblad lens sales are for the classic trio of 50mm wide angle, 80mm normal, and 150mm telephoto lenses (see sales table above). I consider these the "people and places" lens kit. Most photographers shooting such subjects will want a trio of wide/normal/tele optics of their choice. Lens choice is obviously highly personal and dependent upon your professional needs.

Changing Tastes and Newer Options

I also need to highlight that these sales were for the older and more limited range of chrome (C) lens offerings for which numbers are available. Today, lots of Hasselblad buyers are bypassing purchase of the 80mm lens in favor of the wider 60mm or fast 110mm short telephoto lens. But the low cost 80mm normal lens has its uses and charms too. Others switch the 150mm lens for the newer 180mm. Similarly, if your normal lens is a 60mm, the 50mm wide angle is too close, and you probably want either the 40mm for SLR use or the standalone Hasselblad Superwide with 38mm Zeiss biogon lens.

On the other hand, if you are buying the 250mm super apochromatic lens at an equally super price, or the $15,000 US quartz 105mm UV specialty lenses, you should have a specific scientific need for these lenses (or be a very well heeled collector!). The fisheye lens is often rented for specialty shots. The frequency of use of fisheyes for most photographers is low, and that is a lot of money to tie up in a low usage lens. Similarly, unless you do a lot of bird/nature or industry telephoto shots, the 350mm and 500mm lenses run under 2% of sales. Many low selling pricey lenses which are infrequently used are probably often rented by photographers who just need access for a specific job need. If you anticipate lots of rentals over time it may be wiser to buy one if you can afford to do so.

The Hasselblad Superwide slightly distorts the wide angle sales of the Hasselblad line, since you can opt for the highly corrected 38mm Biogon as your wide angle. SLR users may prefer the 40mm distagon lens instead, but even adding up both lenses suggests that only 7+% of Hasselblad lens sales are in this 40mm very wide angle range.

Lens Availability

But the above table fails to answer a critical question - do you have such optics available for your chosen medium format camera? It does no good deciding you really need a 30mm fisheye or 500mm lens for your specialty area, if your camera model doesn't have such lenses in its lineup.

This problem has several dimensions. First, was a lens ever produced in the desired focal length and/or speed needed? If yes, are they available new or used at an affordable price, or via local or mail order lens rentals? If not, is there another alternative such as a fisheye adapter which would work sufficient for your needs or budget instead?

Multiple Systems Multiply Lens Options

For example, I use my Bronica S2/EC system for closeup and telephoto projects where its focal plane shutter makes it easy to adapt low cost macro and long focus lenses (see homebrew medium format lenses). But I use my Kowa 6/66 system when I need leaf shutters for fill-flash work with wide angle to mid-telephoto ranges (using 35mm, 55mm, 85mm, 110mm macro, 150mm and 250mm lenses). If I could find the rare Kowa 500mm or 2X teleconverter, I would extend my usage to the longer telephoto region. But such 2X teleconverters and 500mm optics for Kowa 6/66 SLRs are very rare. Some major Kowa repairshops in the USA have never seen one.

Similarly, the unique 19mm Kowa fisheye is another lens that was made, but in such low numbers as to be found in only a handful of camera bags. If anything, I feel very lucky to have the 35mm Kowa 6x6cm ultrawide rectilinear optic. I have only seen one other such lens offered for sale in 2+ years. I need to caution you that just because a lens might have been made, doesn't mean you can find one for sale even if you could afford it!

My point here is that it may be simpler, easier and lots cheaper to have a second medium format camera with different strengths than to try and extend a single system to do every possible job you might encounter. Different SLR systems have different strengths. Many photographers have even bought yet another 6x6cm SLR just to get access to a single low cost lens available for it. I am thinking of the highly rated 30mm fisheye medium format lens for the Kiev-60 and Kiev-88 series camera bodies and lens mounts. But someone else might buy into the Kiev lineup to get those low cost shift lenses (with 3 available lenses under $1,000 US). Other photographers have bought Hasselblad Superwide cameras just to get the highly regarded Zeiss Biogon 38mm rectilinear lens. So consider this approach if you have only a few holes and such a solution is feasible or suggests itself. More cameras = more fun!

Sample Usage of Above Table(s)

A listing of very wide lens options for current medium format users highlights some interesting differences between models. For example, Pentax 645 has a 35mm offering, Bronica ETRSi 645 has a 40mm lens, but Mamiya 645 rectilinear lenses start at 45mm. On 6x7cm SLRs, both Mamiya and Bronica have 50mm f/4.5 competitors. But Pentax 67 offers a 45mm f/4 and a 55mm f/4 lens (but no 50mm). Similarly, the Pentax 67 lineup has more and faster telephoto lenses than either the Bronica GS-1 or the Mamiya RZ lens lines. But then, the Pentax 67 is a focal plane shutter, and the others are leaf shutters, so this difference is not so surprising. But both lower lens costs (as no leaf shutters in each lens) and lens range favor the Pentax 67 for many users who don't need leaf shutter capabilities.

This review is a brief example of how you can "mine" the tables of lens availability data and pricing information to consider which camera offers the best match to your lens requirements and budget. While these are just some of the factors to consider, the cost and availability of lenses has a major impact on what you can do and afford to buy for your system. You can also check the newly published (6/2000) McBroom's Camera Pricing Guide for pricing on recent and current medium format cameras, lenses, and accessories.

Rentals

Sadly, just because a lens exists and is available for purchase new or used doesn't mean we can all afford to buy it. Even worse, many lenses are not available for rental at most local pro shops, even for popular brands and models such as Rollei SLRs. Generally, Hasselblad lenses seem to be more available for rental, but this may vary with your locale. In a few cases, you may be able to rent via mail or phone, with the lens being mailed to you for use. This approach beats nothing, but your shoot may be dependent on there not being any problems with the item or damage enroute.

Rentals come in two flavors. A local camera shop may have a 40mm lens they would prefer to sell, but it isn't a fast turnover item. So they are happy to rent such a lens for a rental fee (plus insurance costs). Who knows, maybe you will decide to buy the lens, and at worst they have some income from rentals. But eventually, somebody decides to buy that 40mm lens, and now they don't have one. This setup lets you test a lens before buying, but it makes it hard to rely on the local store for rental gear since they aren't in the business in a serious way.

On the other hand, there are pro shops which support a strong rental program with equipment dedicated to such rental services. One reason you will find so many pro stores with Hasselblad rental gear may relate to great deals the store has gotten on such rental equipment from your national Hasselblad importer and distributor. By contrast, another brand such as Rollei may have a different rental incentives program, or have fewer dealers enrolled. If you happen to have a local dealer who provides such Rollei SLR lenses in depth in their rental program, you are in luck. But many of us are not so lucky. The only option may be to rent such equipment via the mails, where such services are available. And when one of the major national rental sources for Rollei SLR lenses drops their Rollei rental by mail program, you will see a number of posting on related mailing lists from dismayed users who have lost their main source for such needed lens rentals.

I should also cite another personal observation that it is easier to go with the flow on rentals. Are you a semi-professional photographer who plans on renting unusual lenses when needed locally? If so, it may behoove you to buy a basic camera kit that matches the local rentals program. So while I have only a few lenses for my Hasselblad 500c and 500 EL/M cameras, I can rent more exotic optics locally if I should need them for modest fees. I have a number of backs (including 6x4.5cm and polaroid) and viewfinders and two bodies (for backup purposes). While I could rent the entire setup, the cost for renting spare bodies and backs and viewfinders adds up fast too. So I can just rent the exotic pricey optics when I need them and use them with my older bodies, backs, and finders. But if I had a different 6x6cm SLR (e.g., Rollei 600x), I might have a harder time finding a local rental source for exotic optics. If you haven't bought into a major system yet, and are considering supplementing your startup kit with local rentals, you need to review local rental program costs and availability issues carefully.

You can also use your rental receipts and projected usage rental fees to identify potential needs that might be cheaper if met with a purchase rather than frequent renting. For example, buying a $300 used macro lens and tubes for a Kowa 6/66 might be a better way to get a flat field lens than frequently renting the 120mm macro Hasselblad version. My point here is that you have to consider the cost of other alternatives, including buying into another (budget) line that covers such needs at an attractive total cost. Just because your main system is a Rollei SLR or Hasselblad doesn't mean you can't use or justify another camera or lens setup for doing an infrequent or specific task. Not only will this approach solve your current problem, but it may open up solutions to other problems in the future more easily too. In engineering terms, you have more "degrees of freedom" in finding a solution to any problem with multiple camera systems than with just one.

If you really like the 30mm Hasselblad fisheye ($5,800 at B&H;), you might consider buying a Kiev-60 with the well regarded 30mm fisheye on 6x6 for circa $400 for both 30mm lens and Kiev-60 camera with metering prism. It doesn't take many Hasselblad 30mm rentals at that price to pay for the alternative 30mm lens and camera. You can also recoup part of your investment when you resell your Kiev 60 and fisheye lens too. With rentals, you will just have a pile of receipts and no gear to resell. So your total cost of ownership may be surprisingly low if you find the Kiev-60 and 30mm lens an acceptable alternative.

Buy to Sell

If you are willing to take the risks and have the funds available, you can buy more exotic items and then resell them once your needs have been met. Naturally, you will need to consider insurance to cover damages or loss of the expensive items or kits you buy. If you can arrange to buy low from users and sell high (on EBAY? ;-) you might even make some money on this wheeling and dealing, unlike straight rental fee programs. The big problem with buying used gear lies in hidden defects and the need for clean/lube maintenance on many items. Such repair fees can easily represent a substantial part of the price of many used cameras and optics. Another issue is that most older gear, including lenses, may have fewer features or less refined lens multicoating or other issues worth considering against newer gear.

Buying Grey Market Overseas

We have a major lengthy page of tips on buying overseas and saving up to 40% and even 60% off USA retail costs on some items. I mention this since you can often find that overseas prices for new items in the box with an international (not USA distributor) warranty cost less than many used lenses or cameras, and sometimes a lot less. For example, a Hasselblad 203FE may run circa $5,300 at discount stores in the USA, while the same new camera from overseas might be $3,800. Saving another $1,500 is a major savings for most of us.

Another set of financial tips for the semipro photographer suggest ways to use your photo business to reduce costs too. By using such business related deductions, you can greatly reduce the amount of taxes you pay for such business related goods and services too.

Lenses You Can't Rent or Buy Anytime Soon

Let us say you just got a job shooting the next six Space Shuttle Launches with your motor drive Rollei 600x SLR. Now all you need is that 1000mm f/8 Rollei SLR lens that sells for $21,000 and a small caddy to carry it around. Surprise! These 1000mm lenses aren't exactly lying around your local camera store, waiting for someone to come and pick them up. Perhaps there is only one 1000mm Rollei lens available, mainly for impressing folks at trade shows. I mean available on the entire planet. Forget about finding one in rentals too. When you send in your certified check for the lens, they will probably tell you that the lens will be built as soon as Hans J. come back from his summer vacation next month. You should get it in 90 days or so. These exotic lenses are definitely not off the shelf items!

On other lenses, you may be on a nearly one year wait cycle for the annual production run of a particular lens. Get the idea? Lots of lenses are listed which sell in such small quantities that they are custom built on your order. So you can't rent or buy one right away, even if you have the $21,000+ available in your hand.

Hmmm? Maybe that Pentax 67 with 800mm f/4 lens for only $7,300 is starting to look pretty good about now? Here again, it may be cheaper to buy another camera body than try to deal with higher costs and delays in another lineup. And obviously, I am not saying these practices are limited to a single manufacturer or unusual; all the manufacturers have limited production one-off lenses that are custom built after you order and pay for them!

Lens Envy Cures

You may also want to consider our argument against buying exotic lenses on our Curing Lens Envy pages. Basically, the 50/80/150mm trio are used by most photographers for the majority of their shots. While I can easily take fisheye photos (see $50 adapter notes below) and like them, I rarely take more than a handful of shots on any given day nor put very many in a typical slide show. Now if I had spent $5,800 for a true 30mm Hasselblad fisheye lens, and only used it for 1% of my shots, my cost per fisheye photo would be a lot more than the cost for my more typical 80mm or 150mm shots. So not only are these lenses much more expensive than the more popular and bigger selling lenses (such as 150mm), but the exotic lenses will cost far more when viewed on a dollars per shot basis for most photographic users.

One solution to these problems of lens availability and cost is discussed in the section on lens adapters below. Thanks to these low cost alternatives, you can get some unusual effects such as fisheye photos, ultrawide shots with amusing distortions, and additional short telephoto soft portrait lens options at surprisingly low cost. Best of all, these adapters can work on a variety of cameras, including medium format SLRs, TLRs, rangefinders, and even 35 cameras with low cost adapter rings. So don't despair if the lenses you want aren't available for your system. Use an adapter instead!

Lens Adapter Alternatives

I want to point out that you can oftentimes get a fisheye or very wide angle effect (albeit somewhat distorted) using fisheye and ultrawide adapters. The use of a teleconverter (typically 2X) with many systems also provides a longer telephoto lens option which is useful and not covered in the above tables. In any case, this is a lens sales and lens availability set of tables only. These tables doesn't reflect frequency of use. Some of us like to shoot with the normal lens, while others hate it but got it with their original camera package kit. Similarly, extension tubes or the bellows or proxar closeup lenses may provide great macrophotography options without the need to buy the 120 macro or 135mm bellows mount optics for many users.

So the above sales table is not a usage table, but simply a reminder that not everybody has a 40mm lens, let alone the 30mm fisheye. You may be happier using a 2X teleconverter on your 150mm f/4 knowing that less than 1% of the lenses sold were 350mm f/5.6 optics, and many were probably in rental programs to boot. I am fairly happy with the circular fisheye photos from mounting my Kenko 0.18X fisheye adapter ($50-100 US used) on my medium format lens(es) [more so than on 35mm]. For one per cent of the cost of a new 30mm Hasselblad fisheye, I can take fisheye photos on my Hasselblad older 500C and 500 EL/M, but also Kowa 6/66 SLRs, Bronica Z/S2A/EC SLRs, Rolleiflex and other TLRs, 6x9cm folders and even 35mm. Wow!

Similarly, my 0.42X superwide and 0.5X wide angle adapters are pretty handy wherever wider coverage is needed than a less distorted rectilinear 50mm. Here again, the 0.42X adapter turns the normal 80mm lens into a near 35mm ultrawide lens (with unique barrel distortion of a semi-fisheye optic). The 0.5X adapter on an 80mm normal lens yields a 40mm very wide angle effect, with somewhat less distortion than the 0.42X superwide adapter. The 0.6x wide angle adapter produces a bit more distortion than the true 50mm wide angle lens, but the result is a unique if subtle distortion effect. Naturally, lens adapters won't have the same refined edge resolution and contrast of a true prime (fixed) lens, and flare resistance will often be lower too. But a low cost lens adapter in the hand beats a non-existent or unaffordable lens in the catalog anyday!

You can also find some odd-ball telephoto adapters and very low cost ($10-20 US used) kits of a wide angle and telephoto adapter lens. These kits are much poorer optically than the more expensive and heavier glass 0.42X and similar very wide 0.5X adapters. But I have found that the softening effects of the 1.25X telephoto adapter in some of these kits has some limited uses as a short telephoto lens for portraiture. Here, the softening effect of the low cost optics is a benefit, as it smooths out the wrinkles and facial faults of the subject. The resulting 100mm range focal length (1.25X) to 120mm (1.5X) is less ideal than the typical 150mm or 180mm portrait lens usually used on 6x6cm SLRs. But the effects are slightly more compression and less facial distortion than the normal lens in your shots. For the price of a no-name filter ($10 or so), you can try out these effects cheaply enough and see if you like and can use them.

Finally, I highly recommend trying out two element achromatic diopter closeup lenses if you don't have access to either extension tubes or bellows with macro lenses. The results are very useful for most natural subjects, where slight distortion in the image edges is rarely noticeable or objectionable. Unfortunately, if you are copying documents or artworks and duplicating color slides, you may have to spring for a true macro lens (or make one - see homebrew medium format lenses).

Lens Mount Converters

On a related page on lens mount converters, we highlight the potential for converting lenses from one camera mount for use on another. In some cases, the manufacturers provide adapters so you can use their lenses on other cameras they make, such as the Pentax 6x7cm camera adapter to use those lenses on the pentax 6x4.5cm cameras, and a similar adapter for pentax 645 to pentax K mount bodies. While pricey, some of these adapters retain lens diaphragm automation.

Most lens mount adapters don't preserve metering or lens diaphragm automation, so you have to be able to meter and use the lens in manual mode (or use a handheld meter). Unfortunately, most medium format lenses are rather expensive. So it may be cheaper to buy a used camera body for the cheaper lenses and use them on the fully automatic body (e.g., Kiev-60). But this approach can be quite attractive if you have a lot of lenses in one mount and want to use them on a second focal plane body style (e.g., Bronica S2/EC on pentax 645 or Rollei SL66).

Unfortunately, leaf shutter lenses are much harder to interchange, so few such mount adapters are available for them. After considering the cost of a full range of Hasselblad lenses against my grad student budget, I opted to expand my Kowa 6/66 system to a full range of leaf shutter lenses from 35mm to 250mm, including 110 flatfield macro and the 35mm ultrawide lens - the widest rectilinear every made for 6x6cm SLRs. The cost was less than a single macro lens for my Hasselblad 500c! In other words, sometimes it is a lot cheaper to switch than to fight!

In a few cases, the savings with lens mount adapters are so great that you can get the lenses permanently adapted to the new body and save a lot over similar OEM lenses, or get lenses not otherwise available. For example, KievUSA adapts some of their lenses for Hasselblad 200/2000 series focal plane body mounts. Given that there are three (3!) wide angle shift lenses (45mm, 55mm, 65mm) for the Kiev mounts, as well as a low cost 30mm fisheye ($200+ US), the attraction of such options becomes doubly apparent. You can save a lot of money (even at nearly $1,000 for the converted mount lenses), and you can get some optics you can't otherwise get on your camera. Neat!

Conclusions

We started out by reviewing tables of lenses available for various formats of medium format SLRs. We discovered that there is a lot of variation in depth and strength in the available lens lines. Some cameras featured low cost telephotos (e.g., pentax 67) while others had sundry specialty lenses and offerings. Leaf shutter lenses can be seen to be more costly on average than similar non-leaf shutter lenses. For example, the pentax 645 standard focal plane 75mm f/2.8 lens is only $350 (pentax A), while the pentax 645 75mm f/2.8 leaf shutter lens is $720 or more than double the cost (also for pentax A). Most leaf shutters seem to add about 50% over the cost of a similar non-leaf shutter optic (i.e., about 1/3rd the overall cost to manufacture). So consider carefully if you really need the benefits of leaf shutter optics. If you do, consider whether you can get by with the one or two leaf shutter optics offered for typical users on some focal plane shutter lines such as the pentax 75mm f/2.8 leaf shutter offering.

Look into potential for renting exotic lenses you are unlikely to rent very often. If you can't rent locally, inquire if other mail rental services are available (e.g., on user mailing lists). If you can't rent, look into buying new items more cheaply overseas as well as on the used market.

One of my more surprising suggestions has probably been that since no one medium format camera system is equally strong in all areas - optically or otherwise - you should consider combining the strengths of multiple systems. Not only is this more fun, but you may find as I have that a mix of leaf shutter and focal plane cameras provides a lot more capabilities at lower total cost than either system alone. In my case, I have combined the low cost of closeup and longer telephoto lenses for focal plane cameras (Bronica S2/EC) with the desired leaf shutter optics focusing on wide angle and short telephoto portraiture with fill-in flash options.

Another surprise for many readers has probably been my suggestion that you consider buying a particular camera or lens to fill a real need beyond the range of available or affordable optics on your current system. Using my Hasselblad 500c system as an example, I can rent the 30mm Zeiss fisheye many times rather than find $5,800 US to buy one (at B&H; discount prices!). But I can pay for a fisheye adapter for most of my fun and explorational shots for the price of one weekend's rental (e.g., $50 US up). Similarly, for under $400 I can buy a Kiev-60 with their 30mm fisheye optic and take similar photos but of higher quality than my adapter. On the other hand, I could buy 2 pentax 67 bodies each with its own $1,200 35mm fisheye for less than the price of the cheapest 30mm leaf shutter fisheye ($4,500 US on Rollei 600x). If I must have fill-in flash synch with fisheye coverage, I use one of my adapters (fisheye or ultrawide) on the leaf shutter prime lens. Make sense? Sure it isn't as great as the zeiss lens, but we live in an imperfect world!

Finally, having multiple cameras enables you to have the fun and excuse of experimenting with them to extend your enjoyment of photography. As I have added a lens here and an adapter there, I have greatly expanded the capabilities of my equipment. But it is more important to go out and use the gear you have and make small improvements and try things out than it is to wait for a winning lottery ticket to buy that ideal dream outfit. The results and experiences you get from this experimenting and learning process will make you appreciate each camera and lens setup for its own merits, charms, and uses in your photography!

Good Shooting!


Medium Format Lenses Sorted by Focal Length and Minimum Focusing Distance (plus wt. and filter sizes)
Camera: lens f/l (mm) minimum distance (m) max magnif. wt (grams) wt (lbs) filter (mm) notes
RolleiPQ/S 1000mm 21.00   8740 19.25 -  
Pentax67 1000mm 35.00   6660 14.67 built-in mirror
ETRSi 100-200mm 1.00 1:4.9 1940 4.27 95  
MamRB67 100-200mm .55-1.2 .45-.25 1660 3.66 77  
MamRZ67 100-200mm .55-1.22 .45-.24 1620 3.57 77  
Pentax67 100mm 0.30   600 1.32 77 macro
FujiGX680 100mm 0.47 .59 910 2.00 82  
BronGS1 100mm 0.75   630 1.39 72  
HassyCF 100mm 0.90   605 1.33 60  
Mam645 105-210mm 1.80 .07-.14 875 1.93 58  
Mam645AF 105-210mm 1.80   990 2.18 67 ULD
ETRSi 105mm 0.35 1:1 920 2.03 67 macro
Pentax67 105mm 1.00   590 1.30 67  
BronSq 110mm 0.37 1:1 940 2.07 72 macro
MamRZ67 110mm 0.53 .33 610 1.34 77  
BronGS1 110mm 0.66 1:4 725 1.60 72 macro
HassyFE 110mm 0.80   760 1.67 70  
RolleiPQ/S 110mm 0.80   960 2.11 M95  
FujiGX680 115mm 0.50 .55 870 1.92 95  
Pentax645 120mm 0.39   695 1.53 67 macro
Mam645 120mm 0.40 1 745 1.64 67 macro
Pent645AF 120mm 0.40 1:1 735 1.62 67 macro
Contax645 120mm 0.43 1:1 780 1.72 72  
Pentax67 120mm 0.75   520 1.15 77 soft
HassyCF 120mm 0.80   695 1.53 60  
RolleiPQ/S 120mm 0.80   960 2.11 Rollei VI  
FujiGX680 125mm 0.55 .51 895 1.97 95  
FujiGX680 125mm 0.57 .47 545 1.20 82  
MamRB67 127mm 0.64 .36 780 1.72 77  
FujiGX680 135mm 0.64 .43 565 1.24 82  
Pentax67 135mm 0.75   620 1.37 67 macro
BronSq 135mm 1.00   755 1.66 67  
ETRSi 135mm 1.00   750 1.65 62  
Pentax645 135mm 1.25   470 1.04 58 leaf
HassyCF 135mm   1:1 625 1.38 60 macro
HassyCF 140-280mm 2.50   1850 4.07 93  
RolleiPQ/S 140-280mm 2.50   1750 3.85 M95 zoom
MamRB67 140mm 0.76 .33 870 1.92 77 macro
MamRZ67 140mm 0.76 .33 930 2.05 77 macro
Contax645 140mm 1.30   685 1.51 72  
RolleiPQ/S 150/150mmEL 1.40   890 1.96 Rollei VI  
MamRB67 150mm 0.58 .31 840 1.85 77  
FujiGX680 150mm 0.72 .42 705 1.55 82  
MamRZ67 150mm 0.82 .32 825 1.82 77  
MamRB67 150mm 0.86 .3 790 1.74 77 soft
HassyCF 150mm 1.40   785 1.73 60  
HassyFE 150mm 1.40   710 1.56 70  
Mam645AF 150mm 1.40   700 1.54 67  
Pentax645 150mm 1.40   435 0.96 58  
BronGS1 150mm 1.50   650 1.43 72  
BronSq 150mm 1.50   740 1.63 67  
ETRSi 150mm 1.50   635 1.40 62  
Mam645 150mm 1.50 .12 740 1.63 67  
Mam645 150mm 1.50 .12 420 0.93 67  
Pent645AF 150mm 1.50 .16 500 1.10 67 IF
Mamiya7 150mm 1.80 .1 520 1.15 67  
RolleiPQ/S 150mm   1:1.1 706 1.56 Rollei VI macro
Mam645 150mm (leaf) 1.50 .12 620 1.37 67 leaf
HassyCB 160mm 1.50   650 1.43 60  
Pentax67 165mm 1.60   835 1.84 67  
Pentax67 165mm 1.60   780 1.72 77 leaf
MamRZ67 180mm 0.78 .26 1039 2.29 77 soft
FujiGX680 180mm 0.97 .3 1030 2.27 95  
BronSq 180mm 1.00   865 1.91 67  
ETRSi 180mm 1.00   840 1.85 62  
MamRB67 180mm 1.10 .26 930 2.05 77  
MamRZ67 180mm 1.10 .26 900 1.98 77  
FujiGX680 180mm 1.20 .23 800 1.76 82  
HassyCF 180mm 1.50   1075 2.37 60  
MamRZ67 180mm 1.80 .1 808 1.78 77  
RolleiPQ/S 180mm 1.80   1525 3.36 M95  
FujiGX680 190mm 1.50 .17 690 1.52 82  
Pent645AF 200mm 1.50 .16 670 1.48 58 IF
Pentax67 200mm 1.50   795 1.75 77  
BronGS1 200mm 2.00   970 2.14 82  
ETRSi 200mm 2.00   775 1.71 62  
Pentax645 200mm 2.00   570 1.26 58  
BronSq 200mm 2.50   870 1.92 67  
Mam645 200mm 2.50 .1 1100 2.42 77  
Contax645 210mm 1.40   1205 2.65 72  
FujiGX680 210mm 1.40 .22 835 1.84 82  
MamRB67 210mm 1.40 .22 1020 2.25 77 APO
MamRZ67 210mm 1.40 .22 980 2.16 77 APO
Mam645AF 210mm 2.00   720 1.59 58 IF
Mam645 210mm 2.50 .1 715 1.57 58  
Mamiya7 210mm 7.00 .032 460 1.01 58  
Mam645 24mm 0.30 .14 785 1.73 n/a fisheye
MamRB67 250mm 1.80 .19 1130 2.49 77  
MamRZ67 250mm 1.80 .19 1080 2.38 77  
MamRB67 250mm 1.90 .19 1370 3.02 77 APO
MamRZ67 250mm 1.90 .19 1340 2.95 77 APO
FujiGX680 250mm 2.50 .12 925 2.04 82  
HassyCF 250mm 2.50   1000 2.20 60  
HassyFE 250mm 2.50   920 2.03 70  
RolleiPQ/S 250mm 2.50   1150 2.53 Rollei VI  
BronGS1 250mm 3.00   1200 2.64 82  
BronSq 250mm 3.00   1010 2.22 67  
ETRSi 250mm 3.00   910 2.00 62  
HassyCF 250mm APO 3.00   985 2.17 60  
Pentax67 300mm 2.00   1650 3.63 82 IF-ED
Pent645AF 300mm 2.20 .16 775 1.71 67 IF-ED
Mam645AF 300mm 3.00   1240 2.73 77 IF
Pent645AF 300mm 3.00   1490 3.28 77 IF-ED
Pentax645 300mm 3.00   1360 3.00 77 IF-ED
RolleiPQ/S 300mm 3.20   2000 4.41 M95 APO
FujiGX680 300mm 3.40 .11 1100 2.42 82  
Mam645 300mm 3.50 .1 2700 5.95 built-in  
Mam645 300mm 4.00 .09 710 1.56 58  
Pentax67 300mm 5.00   1430 3.15 82  
ETRSi 30mm 0.27   900 1.98 32.5 fisheye
HassyCF 30mm 0.30   1365 3.01 26 fisheye
RolleiPQ/S 30mm 0.30   1550 3.41 built-in  
Contax645 350mm 1.90   3610 7.95 95  
HassyFE 350mm 1.90   2000 4.41 93  
MamRB67 350mm 3.40 .13 1440 3.17 77 APO
MamRZ67 350mm 3.40 .13 1455 3.20 77 APO
RolleiPQ/S 350mm 5.00   1650 3.63 M86  
HassyCF 350mm APO 3.70   1800 3.96 93  
BronSq 35mm 0.28   960 2.11 32.5 fisheye
Pent645AF 35mm 0.30 .25 560 1.23 82 IF
Pentax645 35mm 0.30   470 1.04 77  
Mam645 35mm 0.45 .11 445 0.98 77  
Pentax67 35mm 0.45   920 2.03 built-in fisheye
Contax645 35mm 0.50   781 1.72 95  
MamRB67 37mm 0.26 1.2 1240 2.73 40.5 fisheye
MamRZ67 37mm 0.26 1.2 1280 2.82 40.5 fisheye
HassyCF 38mm 0.30   875 1.93 60  
Pentax67 400mm 2.80   3700 8.15 67 IF-ED
Pent645AF 400mm 3.00   1260 2.78 77 IF-ED
ETRSi 40mm 0.35   510 1.12 62  
BronSq 40mm 0.40   650 1.43 95  
RolleiPQ/S 40mm 0.40   750 1.65 M77 Super Ang
HassyCF 40mm 0.50   915 2.02 93  
RolleiPQ/S 40mm FLE 0.50   1040 2.29 M95  
Mamiya7 43mm 1.00 .05 390 0.86 67  
Pent645AF 45-85mm 0.50   870 1.92 77  
Pentax645 45-85mm 0.50   805 1.77 77  
ETRSi 45-90mm 0.50   1015 2.24 95  
Pentax67 45mm 0.37   485 1.07 82  
Mam645 45mm 0.45 .15 475 1.05 67  
Mam645AF 45mm 0.45   480 1.06 67  
Pent645AF 45mm 0.45   475 1.05 67  
Pentax645 45mm 0.45   400 0.88 67  
Contax645 45mm 0.50   750 1.65 72  
MamRB67 500mm 0.65 .1 2360 5.20 105 APO
HassyCF 500mm 5.00   1810 3.99 93  
Mam645 500mm 5.00 .11 5410 11.92 built-in  
FujiGX680 500mm 5.90   1660 3.66 82  
MamRZ67 500mm 6.50 .1 2315 5.10 105 APO
BronGS1 500mm 8.00   3760 8.28 122  
BronSq 500mm 8.00   3760 8.28 122  
ETRSi 500mm 8.00   3760 8.28 122  
Pentax67 500mm 8.00   3200 7.05 95  
RolleiPQ/S 500mm 8.50   1995 4.39 M86  
Mam645 500mm 9.00 .07 2280 5.02 105  
MamRB67 50mm 0.28 .88 780 1.72 77  
MamRZ67 50mm 0.28 .9 760 1.67 77  
FujiGX680 50mm 0.31 1.21 1250 2.75 112  
HassyFE 50mm 0.32   1240 2.73 93  
Mam645 50mm 0.45 .18 735 1.62 77 shift
ETRSi 50mm 0.46   490 1.08 62  
BronGS1 50mm 0.50   790 1.74 95  
BronSq 50mm 0.50   590 1.30 77  
HassyCF 50mm 0.50   800 1.76 70  
MamRZ67 50mm 0.50 .9 954 2.10 77 ULD
Mamiya7 50mm 1.00 .06 460 1.01 67  
RolleiPQ/S 50mm EL 0.50   840 1.85 RolleiVI  
RolleiPQ/S 50mm FLE 0.50   880 1.94 Rollei VI  
RolleiPQ/S 50mm PQS 0.60   1600 3.52 M95 Super Ang
Pentax67 55-100mm 0.60   1210 2.67 95 zoom
Mam645 55-110mm 1.50 .04-.08 800 1.76 67  
Mam645AF 55-110mm 1.50   880 1.94 67  
Pentax67 55mm 0.35   725 1.60 77  
Mam645 55mm 0.45 .18 305 0.67 58  
Mam645AF 55mm 0.45   430 0.95 58  
Pentax645 55mm 0.45   410 0.90 58  
RolleiPQ/S 55mm 0.50   1650 3.63 104 shift
Mam645 55mm (leaf) 0.45 .18 520 1.15 67 leaf
Pentax645 600mm 5.00   4800 10.57 49 IF-ED
Pentax67 600mm 12.00   6000 13.22 77  
HassyFE 60-120mm 1.20   1520 3.35 93  
ETRSi 60mm 0.42   520 1.15 62  
HassyCB 60mm 0.60   680 1.50 60  
RolleiPQ/S 60mm 0.60   770 1.70 Rollei VI  
FujiGX680 65mm 0.35 0.9 1190 2.62 95  
MamRB67 65mm 0.35 .7 1070 2.36 77  
MamRZ67 65mm 0.35 .7 1060 2.33 77  
BronGS1 65mm 0.60   715 1.57 72  
BronSq 65mm 0.60   665 1.46 67  
Mamiya7 65mm 1.00 .08 380 0.84 58  
RolleiPQ/S 75-150mm 1.80   1800 3.96 M95 zoom
MamRZ67 75mm 0.30 .24 1295 2.85 105  
MamRB67 75mm 0.38 .61 980 2.16 77  
MamRB67 75mm 0.42 .6 1700 3.74 105 shift
MamRZ67 75mm 0.42 .6 1660 3.66 105 shift
ETRSi 75mm 0.60   440 0.97 62  
Pent645AF 75mm 0.60   214 0.47 58  
Pentax645 75mm 0.60   240 0.53 58  
Pentax67 75mm 0.70   560 1.23 82  
Pentax67 75mm 0.70   950 2.09 82 shift
Pentax645 75mm 0.75   365 0.80 58 leaf
Pentax67 800mm 8.00   6500 14.32 67 IF-ED
Pentax67 800mm 20.00   17700 38.99 77  
Pent645AF 80-160mm 1.00 .17 1010 2.22 77 ED
Pentax645 80-160mm 1.00   1010 2.22 77  
Mam645 80mm 0.36 .5 585 1.29 67 macro
FujiGX680 80mm 0.39 .77 1100 2.42 95  
BronGS1 80mm 0.55   755 1.66 72  
HassyFE 80mm 0.60   430 0.95 60  
Contax645 80mm 0.70   480 1.06 72  
Mam645 80mm 0.70 .15 420 0.93 67  
Mam645 80mm 0.70 .15 235 0.52 58  
Mam645AF 80mm 0.70   300 0.66 58  
BronSq 80mm 0.80   490 1.08 67  
RolleiPQ/S 80mm 0.80   960 2.11 Rollei VI xenotar
HassyCB 80mm 0.90   550 1.21 60  
HassyCF 80mm 0.90   510 1.12 60  
Mamiya7 80mm 1.00 .1 290 0.64 58  
Mam645 80mm (leaf) 0.80 .12 460 1.01 67 leaf
RolleiPQ/S 80mm/80EL 0.90   590 1.30 Rollei VI  
RolleiPQ/S 90mm 0.40   860 1.89 M95 macro
MamRZ67 90mm 0.43 .51 690 1.52 77  
MamRB67 90mm 0.45 .51 960 2.11 77  
Pentax67 90mm 0.65   480 1.06 67  
Source: Medium Format Lenses Buyer's Guide, British Jrnl of Photography, August 22, 2001 p. 25-28.

You can download Excel spreadsheet and make your own tables, such as sorting by weight or filter sizes and so on.


Related Postings

Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001
From: "M. P. Brennan" mpbrennan@hotmail.com
Newsgroups: rec.photo.equipment.medium-format
Subject: Re: Which MF for a newbie?

"Ron" rgans@Nyc.rr.com wrote

> The problem with Mamiya is that they have a limited
> number of lenses (but promise more).

Once you start buying lenses you'll quickly realize that a very small collection will do all that you need. You'll probably start off with something in the 120mm to 150mm range then get an 80mm then a 45mm and finally a 250mm. Those four lenses will satisfy most of the situations you'll encounter.

I don't think the "limited number" of Mamiya lenses is a practical consideration. Especially when adapters exist that open entire other lines of lenses to you.

-Mike


From: foto28@aol.com (Foto28)
Newsgroups: rec.photo.equipment.medium-format
Date: 10 Jan 2001
Subject: Re: Seeking wisdom

Interjecting my opinion here :)

I've had my Contax 645 for almost a year, and it quickly became my all-time favorite camera. I shoot mostly landscapes, macro, and other nature subjects such as flowers, etc. I treat it as manual-focus; I don't care for AF and have no particular need for it, but the camera has many other features that I just love. The 120 Makro is, quite simply, the best lens I've ever used, and should be a required purchase with every 645 :)

I have the 35/45/80/120/210 (i.e. don't have the 140 as it's so close to the 120), and am going to get the 350 soon. I'm really hoping for something in the 55-60 range, and a couple of zooms would be great.

The system is brilliantly designed; I can't honestly think of anything I would change or add. If you use flash, the in-camera flash meter is enough to make the camera worth buying just for that.

Danny


[Ed. note: lens rental availability will also be an issue to many folks!...]
From Rollei Mailing List:
Date: Fri, 04 May 2001
From: Kevin Ramsey kramsey@trinity.nyc.ny.us
Subject: Re: [Rollei] re: rollei rental sources

Hi Bob:

No, alas, no list of Rollei rental resources because there is only one.

The only rental house that I know of in the U.S. that handles current Rollei equipment is E.P. Levine in Boston. Other places, such as Wall Street Camera and Photocare (both in New York) will rent used equipment that they happen to have, but they do not maintain a stable of Rollei equipment for rental.

Kevin


Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001
From: "Amr Ibrahim" aibrahim1@houston.rr.com
Newsgroups: rec.photo.equipment.medium-format
Subject: Re: pricing the full system... Re: Bronica SQ-Ai thoughts?

Robert:

Point taken, and your argument is very nicely said. I wonder if I can say that amateurs usually build their systems slowly and over a long period of time. The severity of the price differentials between systems are often forgotten over time, particularly, if coupled with enjoyable use. Furthermore, the fact that some lenses are easier selling than others should also be taken into consideration; this is most handy in case one goes overboard in spending.

I hope that I am making life easier for Art in her/his search for the medium format camera.

Best regards

AI
Houston

"Robert Monaghan" rmonagha@smu.edu wrote

> it is pretty important to price out the whole projected system cost; a
> hasselblad system with six lenses, for example, is going to be quite a bit
> more than most Bronica systems with 6 similar optics, even if you avail
> yourself of older used lenses, let alone new ones. You can also find  some
> surprises in "missing lenses" (see
> http://medfmt.8k.com/mf/available.html for lens availability
> tables) and accessories such as extension tubes that cost $500 and so  on.
> Conversely, the 6x7cm systems may be surprisingly cheaper than many  6x6cm
> esp gs-1 vs SQ or RB/RZ vs rollei 6k etc.
>
> HTH bobm


rec.photo.equipment.medium-format From: huib_smeets@hotmail.com (Huib Smeets) [1] Bronica PS Zoomlens announced 50-100mm Date: Wed Mar 13 2002 Hi, Just found the following on the Tamrom/Bronica website: Bronica annouced a zoom lens for the SQAi. It's a 50-100mm/4.5-5.6 Aspherical design. Priced at approx. USD 2500,-- mhmm, now we have to wait for a 80-180mm zoomlens..... Huib.


From: Stephe ms_stephe@excite.com Newsgroups: rec.photo.equipment.medium-format Subject: Re: Stupid 501CM questions Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2002 Mxsmanic wrote: > "Stephe" ms_stephe@excite.com wrote... >> That is one problem with a blad, you have NO choice >> in optics. > > I understand that more than a dozen lenses are available for > Hasselblads. My point was 'blad zeiss glass is the ONLY choice you have, not that they don't have different lenses. Sometimes you might not like say the bokeh of a certain lens or the way it handles, if it's a focal length on a blad you need, too bad, hate it for ya... Or if nothing else you have to learn to like it instead of getting something that fits your style of shooting. Some systems have various lenses that fit or can be made to fit easily so you can play with different optics. For example I can use the excelent OM 35mm macro lenses on my K-60 with a simple to make adapter. Same with using an enlarging lens (even easier, cut a hole in a body cap and use it on a bellows!) or some old school "classic" glass. I have a cool 1920's tessar I mounted that has a really nice look to it. I've been playing with some old 1800's brass lenses and they too have a look modern glass doesn't have. This isn't an option with a 500X blad. There are 4 distinctly different 80mm lenses for the camera I use and each has it's own "look" and feel. There are two different 150mm lenses, a russian 150 f2.8 and a schneider 150 f4 plus something like the tessar 150 I use. THAT is what I'm talking about here. >They are all of the same brand as the camera bodies. Common mistake many people make, not experimenting with some of the alternative optics out there, assuming ONLY the OEM optics are worth looking into. >Beyond that, I'm not sure that there are others that would >interest me in the foreseeable future. The problem is it's SO easy to say that when the "fringe use" glass is beyound your reach or is unavalible entirely. Like people say "A fisheye lens just isn't worth owning" when 99% have never even held one in their hands! I know I couldn't talk myself into buying a $6000 'blad 30mm but I got a 30mm kiev fisheye for $230 new and after playing around with it some, found it to be a VERY useful tool. The intro shot at my site was shot with one and that shot done with a 80mm normal lens (or even a 50mm) would have been BORING!!! I realise you just spent all your money on a new camera that you can't afford accessories or extra lenses for. Next you'll be looking for the CHEAPEST place to get your film developed! You don't want to hear how limited this will make your photography or that there were other options beyond "The benz" of med format cameras, that makes sense for working pro photographers but not people with limited budgets. It's a shame you missed what most people here were trying to tell you. -- stephe http://www.geocities.com/kievgurl/


From: foto28@aol.comnospam (Foto28) Newsgroups: rec.photo.equipment.medium-format Date: 24 Mar 2002 Subject: Re: Questions about medium-format vs. 35mm There are actually more MF zooms that you might think...I'm not totally up to date on these, but working from memory... Pentax 645 has two (another recently announced, I believe) Pentax 67, two Mamiya 645 has two Mamiya RZ has one Fuji 680 has one Hassy, two I think Rollei, one or two Contax 645, one TBA shortly Danny Burk www.dannyburk.com


From: Stefan Patric tootek2@yahoo.com Newsgroups: rec.photo.equipment.medium-format Subject: Re: Which three lenses for 6x6? Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2002 Mxsmanic wrote: > So I understand that many 6x6 MF photographers never buy or need any > more than three lenses: a normal focal length, a wide-angle lens, and > a long > lens. Sounds good to me, as I tend to feel the same way myself. > However, which focal lengths (other than 80mm, which I already got > with the basic > kit) turn out to be best? The very shortest and longest focal lengths > are too expensive, anyway, but the less extreme lenses do offer a bit > of choice. > > In addition to the 80mm, which seems like a good all-around lens for > me, I want something reasonably long, mainly for portraits or of the > occasional scenic telephoto shot, and something reasonably short, > mainly for scenics > and group shots. On 35mm cameras, I find a 28mm handy as the short > lens, although a 35mm is nice for more general applications; and at > the long end, a 90mm seems to be plenty (beyond that and the number of > practical applications diminishes rapidly). > > I note that a straight conversion of focal lengths won't work, since > the aspect ratio of 6x6 is so different from that of 35mm. > > So which lenses do you use for 6x6 photography, and for what types of > photos? I don't own an 80 for my current 6x6 system--Hasselblad. A useless focal length for me like the 50 on 35mm. My previous 6x6, Mamiya C220, came with an 80. It was either not wide enough or not long enough. So, when I upgraded to the 'Blad, I got a 60 instead. The rest of my 3 lens outfit: SWC and a 150; although the 150 was a compromise. I prefer the 135 focal length, that I had with the Mamiya. It was a THE focal length for magazine covers, classical and theatrical portraits, etc., but Hassellbad's 135 was a macro and didn't have a focusing mount. So, I live with the 150. It's just that the spacing between the 60 and 150 is a little too wide. Primarily, the 60 is my most used lens; perfect for weddings, when I used to do a lot of them; groups shots, PR stuff, industrial and corporate, architectural exteriors and for interior details and "corner" groupings. The SWC (or a 40 would be just as good) is for interiors, exteriors when there's not enough room to back up, industrial and corporate, and any use where a very wide angle lens is needed. The 150 I use mainly for people--head shots to full length, and for those times when a short tele is needed. Those 3 lenses enable me to do about 98% of what I'm called on to shoot with 6x6. For the other 2%, I rent or borrow. Usually, it's a 500 or a 100. Been thinking about getting a 100. It's a nice focal length for table top, aerials, scenics. -- Stefan Patric tootek2@yahoo.com


From: "G. Fenstermacher" gfen@rcn.com Newsgroups: rec.photo.equipment.medium-format Subject: Re: Which three lenses for 6x6? Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 "Mxsmanic" mxsmanic@hotmail.com wrote > Do you ever regret having only a single lens for the camera? I'm not the person who you responded to, but I'm answering anyway. No. Matter of fact, if anything, its helped me. I have an entire 35mm kit, but I never use anything other than the 50mm, unless I have to. I've had to ONE time in the last three months, with the exception of macro use which makes me swap pretty regularly. When I pick up a reverse ring, I won't even need to give it up for that. When I was (mostly) gifted with a 4x5 Speed Graphic, it came with one lens. That lens is ample enough for me. The only reason I will be replacing it is so that I get better coverage and can then use adjustments correctly. I bought a TLR on purpose. It gives me one lens. It was cheap, it makes less headaches for me, and like in the above examples it forces me to compose correctly, and THINK about the photographs I want to make. And work to make them. I think that's better. I think that's much better. I also think the way my photography has changed in the last six months with the advent of the first fixed focal length lens I bought has proven this technique is working very well for me.


From BJP Equipment News 29 November 2002:

Mamiya is to launch a 43mm f/4.5 aspheric ultrawide lens for the RZ67II series, featuring a slip on hood, an angle of view of 92 degrees(!), an internal focusing system, and a minimum focusing distance of 28 cm. The lens provides a 25mm lens on a 35mm SLR field of view when used with the latest 24x36mm digital sensors....


From russian camera mailing list: Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 From: Bob Shell bob@bobshell.com Subject: Re: [Russiancamera] Re: The most expensive photo item I have ever seen To: Russian Camera Users russiancamera-user@beststuff.com Marc James Small wrote: > The 1000mm Mirotar is still available at around $US 125,000 and the 500mm > at around $US 75,000. They don't sell all that many but, man, selling one > makes a salesman's day! Have they skyrocketed in price again? Damn. Just when I was saving up for a matched set!!! Outside of the samples Kyocera USA keeps for trade shows and occasional loan to photographers, the only ones I've encountered belonged to National Geographic (adapted for Nikon). Mead Kibbey used to have one of each, but I think he donated them with the rest of his collection. He once shot a newspaper page at some amazing distance with the 1000 and you could read every word in the print he made. Bob


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