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rfantana

rfantana

Charlotte, NC
August 2008

JAN 19, 2009 07:36 AM

ok...i've been kicking this idea around for quite sometime and get nowhere. it seems as though most people think im insane for wanting to leave the United States. i love my country but for the past 8 years or so i've romanced the idea of leaving this place and enjoying life elsewhere.

now- any advice or scenarios people wanna share? process, legal blah blah, transition blah

i've thought about Canada but i've never even been and it seems foolish to move to a place you've never even been. thought about Europe but everyone says its not an easy thing to do.

so, dear abby,
please help

Quirky

Quirky

Birmingham, AL
October 2005

JAN 19, 2009 07:41 AM

Try moving to California.

rfantana

rfantana

Charlotte, NC
August 2008

JAN 19, 2009 07:45 AM

Quirky said:
Try moving to California.



you're not the first to say that. i guess the logical explanation would be California is that much different from the majority of our country. is that what you were getting at?

Quirky

Quirky

Birmingham, AL
October 2005

JAN 19, 2009 07:47 AM

rfantana said:

Quirky said:
Try moving to California.



you're not the first to say that. i guess the logical explanation would be California is that much different from the majority of our country. is that what you were getting at?



Aye. It's a different culture over there. And the taxes are far lower than in Ireland or the UK.

Cassiel

Cassiel

Aurora, CO
September 2004

JAN 19, 2009 12:14 PM

upon moving in, beat up the first person you see and show everybody that you're alpha.

sillyokio

sillyokio

Egypt
January 2005

JAN 19, 2009 01:53 PM

Why is it silly to move somewhere you've never been?

I say save up your money, do your research, and chalk up the balls to move.

rfantana

rfantana

Charlotte, NC
August 2008

JAN 19, 2009 02:57 PM

Cassiel said:
upon moving in, beat up the first person you see and show everybody that you're alpha.



hahaha right on man... but what happens if i lose?

rfantana

rfantana

Charlotte, NC
August 2008

JAN 19, 2009 02:58 PM

sillyokio said:
Why is it silly to move somewhere you've never been?

I say save up your money, do your research, and chalk up the balls to move.


ah.......point taken...
what kind of chalk do you recommend for the ole' balls?

SockPuppet

SockPuppet

I'm lost
July 2006

JAN 19, 2009 03:41 PM

Actually visiting the places you might want to move to is the best piece of research you can do, IMO.

Drake

Drake

SUICIDEGIRL

I'm lost

JAN 19, 2009 05:07 PM

SockPuppet said:
Actually visiting the places you might want to move to is the best piece of research you can do, IMO.



Yep, that sounds like a better idea than going in cold... do a European tour or Canadian road trip or something, see what sticks.

hotcurry

hotcurry

Los Angeles, CA
June 2004

JAN 19, 2009 05:14 PM

Quirky said:

rfantana said:

Quirky said:
Try moving to California.



you're not the first to say that. i guess the logical explanation would be California is that much different from the majority of our country. is that what you were getting at?



Aye. It's a different culture over there. And the taxes are far lower than in Ireland or the UK.



Right... our taxes are so awesome! Come here and get your tax return in the form of an IOU! Prepare for sales taxes to reach over 10%. And you best not lose your job because they've lowered unemployment benefits. Of course property taxes are low. You do have a cool million to buy a home, right?

AcidEvangelist

AcidEvangelist

Minneapolis, MN
March 2004

JAN 19, 2009 07:04 PM

rfantana said:

Cassiel said:
upon moving in, beat up the first person you see and show everybody that you're alpha.



hahaha right on man... but what happens if i lose?



You move back home with your tail between your legs.

Cassiel

Cassiel

Aurora, CO
September 2004

JAN 19, 2009 09:12 PM

AcidEvangelist said:

rfantana said:

Cassiel said:
upon moving in, beat up the first person you see and show everybody that you're alpha.



hahaha right on man... but what happens if i lose?



You move back home with your tail between your legs.



and you plot yr revenge.

Tiger_Fodder

Tiger_Fodder

Kingston, MA
June 2007

JAN 19, 2009 09:41 PM

Quirky said:
Try moving to California.



Or move up North. New York City would be a culture shock compared to Charlotte.

Jena

Jena

Tampa, FL
June 2003

JAN 19, 2009 09:45 PM

Tiger_Fodder said:

Quirky said:
Try moving to California.



Or move up North. New York City would be a culture shock compared to Charlotte.



Oh yes, especially with paying over a thousand bucks for a walk in closet.

I mean, apartment.

velvet_petal

velvet_petal

I'm lost
November 2006

JAN 19, 2009 10:37 PM

If you're serious, you should go for it. You're going to have to do some legwork though. Start researching Visa requirements to find out what to do to legally to move into a country you're interested in. If one of your parents or grandparents is from a foreign country, check out whether that entitles you to file for dual citizenship without any added tax or military implications or requiring you to renounce your American citizenship. You can find out this sort of information from that country's consulate. Travel light and always...ALWAYS have enough cash on hand to get you out of a jam and back home if you need to. Also, be respectful and stay out of trouble when you're abroad. Your constitutional rights end at our border.

If you're in university, why not check out a study abroad program to get a little exposure to living away. Some people do great away from home, and some do not fare as well as they might hope. These programs are a good safe way for you find out. Short term student visas are a lot less hassle than obtaining work permits. Most countries don't want to let you in to work and live unless you have some skill they need and that often means a degree or advanced degree and some experience or recognizable artistic merit. Good luck!

Marvel

Marvel

Canada
August 2006

JAN 19, 2009 11:14 PM

I highly reccomend Canada biggrin

... and velvet_petal is a smart lady, she has good advice.

DevilsReject

DevilsReject

Cleveland, OH
February 2007

JAN 20, 2009 01:36 AM

Tiger_Fodder said:

Quirky said:
Try moving to California.



Or move up North. New York City would be a culture shock compared to Charlotte.



I moved from a suburb in Ohio just outside of Cleveland to a suburb in Georgia just outside of Atlanta.

I really can't argue your statement, there is a huge difference in cultures.

MrCrisp

MrCrisp

Charleston, SC
August 2004

JAN 20, 2009 03:44 AM

rfantana said:

Cassiel said:
upon moving in, beat up the first person you see and show everybody that you're alpha.



hahaha right on man... but what happens if i lose?



move to california.

Nekta

Nekta

HOPEFUL

Sweden

JAN 20, 2009 05:40 AM

I am originally from Finland but moved to Spain at age 16, to England at age 17 and to Sweden at age 19.

And next spring moving to Shanghai, China.

Its all about arrangements and having patience to deal with all that crap. Nothing is impossible. Usually people are just too lazy to do anything else except wine about it how they want to move to another country but in the end they never do it.

Femi

Femi

SUICIDEGIRL

California, USA

JAN 20, 2009 12:15 PM

I'll be living in Nepal and Africa for the next 10 months, I'm trying to get out of California. But if you really want to come here you can always have fun losing your job to the million of illegal aliens, h
Pay for those illegal aliens and their 9 illegitimate kids, take a dip in one of our polluted beaches, also don't forget... Breath in all that fresh smog and roll around in all the trash! Your paradise awaits!

Salieri

Salieri

Montreal, QC
July 2004

JAN 20, 2009 12:48 PM

Femi said:
I'll be living in Nepal and Africa for the next 10 months, I'm trying to get out of California. But if you really want to come here you can always have fun losing your job to the million of illegal aliens, h
Pay for those illegal aliens and their 9 illegitimate kids, take a dip in one of our polluted beaches, also don't forget... Breath in all that fresh smog and roll around in all the trash! Your paradise awaits!



If you find that many issues with California, you're SURE to love "Africa".

Also, you come across as aloof and uneducated - you may want to back up your post with actual facts or related information before spreading such vitriol. Thanks.

baudot

baudot

Los Angeles, CA
February 2004

JAN 20, 2009 01:04 PM

Here's the best advice yet:

velvet_petal said:
...Travel light and always...ALWAYS have enough cash on hand to get you out of a jam and back home if you need to. Also, be respectful and stay out of trouble when you're abroad. Your constitutional rights end at our border.



I can't second this enough. Money and a willingness to endure occasional discomfort are the lightest, best luggage you can have.

The most important question hasn't been asked yet. What is it about life abroad that's romantic to you? What experience are you chasing? That determines a great deal of where you should go. And where you go has much to do with what you should do.

If you're thinking of anyplace third world, look over http://www.comebackalive.com/. Robert Young Pelton has a writing style that's loaded with know-It-all bullshit, maybe because he does know more than anyone else who's talking.

MrCrisp

MrCrisp

Charleston, SC
August 2004

JAN 20, 2009 01:04 PM

Femi said:
But if you really want to come here you can always have fun losing your job to the million of illegal aliens, h
Pay for those illegal aliens and their 9 illegitimate kids...



i hope you'll enjoy the irony of this statement after living abroad for 10 months.

FreakPirate

FreakPirate

Calgary, AB
November 2002

JAN 20, 2009 01:07 PM

Femi said:
I'll be living in Nepal and Africa for the next 10 months, I'm trying to get out of California. But if you really want to come here you can always have fun losing your job to the million of illegal aliens, h
Pay for those illegal aliens and their 9 illegitimate kids, take a dip in one of our polluted beaches, also don't forget... Breath in all that fresh smog and roll around in all the trash! Your paradise awaits!



Wow. You don't sound disgusting at all. whatever

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