Re: [A-List] Saddam

["Henry C.K. Liu" <hliu@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Saddam's morality is not an issue in geopolitics, unless one takes the 
pretext Bush uses seriously. On one level, all governments have moral 
shortcomings.  The killing of political opponents is no worse than 
causing the death of helpless victims through unemployment, sanctions 
and war.

The issue is geopolitics.  When Bush says:"Those who are not with us are 
against us," he is speaking not of a rhetorical threat, but of reality. 
  Saddam is important for the simple reason that he, and he alone so 
far, is standing up to US superpower domination, against the legitimacy 
of the new notion of regime change based on a charge of being a "failed 
state".

My previous post pointed out some possible scenarios for a geopolitical 
struggle by a small nation faced with invasion by overwhelming force.

Not that Mao Zedong had anything in common with Saddam, but the CPC 
faced similar military defeat in the 1920s, that drove its forces to 
embark on the Long March, and went to the mountains and survived with 
nothing except a political idea and was finally triumphant 3 decades later.

I don't know if Saddam has the stuff, but he has the option to continue 
the struggle. When we support Saddam, we are not supporting tyranny 
which is present in all governments.  We are supporting a struggle 
against superpower hegemony.

Henry C.K. Liu

Christopher Black wrote:
> Henry,
> 
> I agree. Things may not be as simple as the US wants. And you can bet your
> boots that France, Germany and Russia are going to do everything they can
> behind the scenes to prevent the US from winning this war as it is really an
> attack on them. Whether that means sharing intelligence of US troop
> movements, and bombing raids or using French or Russian pilots flying Syrian
> aricraft to fight the US who knows. Anthing is possible.  When the Rusiian
> speak about the gravest consequences, you can expect that is not just empty
> rhetoric.
> 
> Chris
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Henry C.K. Liu" <hliu@mindspring.com>
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> Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 1:51 AM
> Subject: [A-List] Saddam
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>>Iraq will lose this battle of 2003, but the Iraqi War may not end.
>>Suppose instead of fleeing Iraq as a refugee, as demanded by Bush,
>>Saddam, after all resistance crumbles, escapes to a neutral nation or
>>even a nation hostile the US, to set up an Iraqi government in exile, as
>>MacArthur escaped from the Philippines to Australia, or General De Gaul
>>setting up in London with Allied support.  The US may continue to
>>recognize Saddam, whose popularity polls are ahead of Bushes, as head of
>>the sole legitimate government of Iraq, and the unilateral US/UK action
>>as being a violation of the UN Charter.  Suppose Saddam goes to Russia,
>>France, North Korea, Cuba, or some Arabic nation, to continue to carry
>>on war with guerilla forces for years.  Would Bush demand Russia to turn
>>over Saddam or face an invasion?  It's going to be an interesting month.
>>Saddam may survive more than one Bush.
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>>Henry C.K. Liu
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