The postings below give some idea on costs for many repairs, and the
variability in pricing for repairs. Out of warranty repairs by the USA
importer/distributor may be more expensive (by 300% or more) than the
same repair, using parts from the USA importer service, by a factory
trained independent repair technician.
Many USA importers are cutting costs, including service department costs,
as a way to reduce prices and better compete with grey market imports.
Some posters (see grey market guide) have
suggested that half (2 of 4) of a prominent USA importer's repair shops
had been virtually closed. Repair work sent there was largely farmed out
to independent repair shops, explaining the increase in repair delays (to
8 weeks!). So even if you pay the higher prices for official USA importer
repairs on out of warranty repair jobs, you may be just paying a
middleman's fee to the USA importer to pass your camera on to some
independent repair technician. That cuts the importers costs and raises
their profits, but it doesn't seem to get us faster or cheaper repairs,
or does it?
Similarly, most in-warranty repairs are limited to defects, rather than
the all-inclusive repair warranty some owners think they have. For that,
you need insurance. Most warranty repairs
will not cover "abuse" of the camera or lens, including dropping it.
Sorry!
Finally, many product defects and warranty repairs and incompatibilities
(flash to camera etc.) are kept secret by the manufacturers from us as
consumers. So you won't learn that you have a common defect that is
covered under a warranty repair unless you find that out from other
posters on the Internet or a friend at the local camera store or repair shop.
Since I have noted some astonishing repair cost variations, I have
tracked some prices, largely for medium format and large format repairs
(as this is the medium format cameras megasite ;-). Similar
variations exist for 35mm SLR CLA (clean, lube, adjust) repairs - from
$50 to $79 to $99 to $129 for the same camera at different shops. Here
again, my suggestion is to shop around a bit using our repair shops listing.
From: Don Lindich donl1@ibm.net
Subject: Response to Is there such a thing as a "Reasonable" place to get
your old Hasselblad 500c worked on?
Date: 1998-06-11
Try Larry Mahony at (513) 528-4053. He charged me $72.00 to replace the key and do a CLA on my 500C, a job other places wanted $150-$265 to do. He did a great job and had it back to me in a day. Personal, friendly service, too!
Given the price discrepancy, it seems that a lot of shops are milking their
Hassy customers dry...
Date: Mon, 23
Feb 1998
From: Richard C. Floyd 103060.1511@compuserve.com
Reply to: hasselblad@kelvin.net
Subject: Hasselblad service?
Hadi:
My recommendation is to send it directly to Hasselblad. Last year I went
to check out my gear five days before a major shoot. I found that the
flash contact wasn't working so it wouldn't fire my strobes. I sent the
lens and a back that had a light leak to Hasselblad with their assurance
they would do their best to turn it around before my shoot on Saturday. I
received the gear back on Thursday!!!! They really went out of their way
to help me, knowing I had to have my gear that weekend. The total cost for
CLA on the lens, fixing the flash contact, CLA the back and fixing the
light leak was $265.00 including express shipping.
Rick
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998
From: Mr500CM Mr500CM@pipeline.com
To: hasselblad@kelvin.net
Subject: Re: Hasselblad service?
Rick, there are others who can and will service your equipment for a lot
less. My repairman who is factory trained could have saved you close to
$100.00. If you need somebody who is good, fast and reasonable try:
Precision Camera Service
798 Woodlane RD
Mount Holly, NJ 08060
609-702-8100
800-263-6599
bladfixer@aol.com
Brad is honest, fair and fast.
From: Tim Daneliuk tundra@tundraware.com
Newsgroups: rec.photo.equipment.large-format
Subject: Re: Questions on older Hasselblads
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998
I am posting your answer here because that is where it started, but I will
not follow up here thereafter.
The old lenses are just fine. They are multicoated - the newer ones
just have a somewhat better coating. This is only an issue if
you are shooting in extremely flarey conditions which is usually
rare. You fix this problem with a good lens shade.
I own both old and new Hassy lenses. All are uniformly excellent.
If the price is right, I would not hesitate. Keep in mind that
older stuff (especially Hassy shutters) gets gummed up from lack of
use and has to be cleaned and adjusted to get it back to proper
operation. Figure about $150-200 per lens for this operation and
factor that into your offer. You can get rough ideas of price
by looking in the used ads in Shutterbug magazine.
Good luck.
Tim Daneliuk
Work: tim.daneliuk@ps.net
rom: csx@nettally.com (Riley Kinney)
Newsgroups: rec.photo.equipment.medium-format
Subject: Re: How Much For Fuji Rangefinder Overhaul?
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998
cridgewa@mason2.gmu.edu (COLLETTE RIDGEWAY) wrote:
Anyone know what Fuji charges for their recommended overhaul for the Fuji
670 and 690 II & III cameras after the counter reaches 500? How long is
the turn-around time?
Fuji checked and cleaned my GW690-II last May and the cost was $ 77.00 for labor plus tax and the cost of a couple of parts. They charged $ 8.00 freight which turned out to be two day fedex. Turnaround was three weeks from sending the camera to receiving it back. They provided a written estimate prior to repair. Telephone no. is (800) 659-3854.
[Ed. note: a recommended repairperson for Hasselblad from that list:]
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998
From: Tim Schooler tschooler@worldnet.att.net
To: hasselblad@kelvin.net
Subject: Re: Servicing Hasselblad
From: camera@isn.net (Lionel F. Stevenson)
Where can I find this repairmaster?
Brad Sherman
Precision Camera
798 Woodlane Road Suite 10-128
Mount Holley NJ 08060
1-800-263-6599
e-mail bladfixer@aol.com
Date: Sun, 1 Mar 1998
From: Eugene A. Pallat eapallat@oriondata.com
Reply to: hasselblad@kelvin.net
Subject: Re: 500CM VS 503 cx bodies
Also, a Maxwell screen can be fitted to the 500C
for a lot less money than the cost of a newer body.
A local repair facility in the Cleveland, Ohio (USA) area will replace the
screen on a 500C including adjustments needed for $80 if you supply the
screen. I'm going to replace the original screen on my 500C with the
Accute Matte split image / grid screen.
Gene Pallat
eapallat@oriondata.com
Date: Sun, 01 Mar 1998
From: Mr500CM Mr500CM@pipeline.com
Reply to: hasselblad@kelvin.net
Subject: Re: EL/ELM MOdification
I spoke to my repairman to find out the scoope on the modification that
allow users to use AA batteries instead of nicads. The cost of the upgrade
should be between $200-250.00.
Lance
Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 From: Andy Peters apeters@noao.edu To: 'Hasselblad List' hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: RE:Messing aroung where I shouldn't... Derek Zeanah derek@thedkgallery.com asks: /* Now, I've got at least one back that needs to be fixed. Any thought on whether it's worth $85 to fix an old 12 back? */ Well, a brand new A12 back is what, $700? A used one is $500? And another used 12 back is upwards of $350? I'd fix the old back. In fact, I just fixed TWO 12 backs. -andy Andy Peters
Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 From: The boyd Theboyd@aol.com To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: Messing aroung where I shouldn't... Derek. If you decide to have your 12 back repaired, keep in mind that parts are "drying up", therefore you may consider having it totally rebuilt. It may cost a little more, but really not much, since it is already disassembled. And, look at the "miles" that you'll be able to get out of a "new" 12 back. I would think that a totally restored back would yeild as long a service life as a new A-12 back. The only downside that comes to mind is the flatness of the film plane. The older backs aren't quite as flat as the newer versions, but this may be purely academic, in your case. theboyd
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998
From: Tom Resident aquatom@pacbell.net
Subject: Re: 20/2.8 fungus
Last year I had my 15mm fixed by Nikon service in Torrance. It took them 6 mos. instead 3-4 as promised. Problem was fungus on front element. The lens has to be shipped to the factory in Japan. Cost $199, which I think is standard for any repair regarding optics. You decide if it's worth the trouble.
rec.photo.equipment.medium-format
From: dannyg1 dannyg1@idt.net
[1] Re: Design Defects--Which ones do you know of?
Date: Fri May 01 20:54:46 CDT 1998
The Mamiya 645 Super was extremely sensitive to elec. flash voltage spikes
that would cause intermitent operation of the shutter buttons. Also had a
single set of win der contacts that were infamous for catching dirt and
working poorly. Many of the le nses have shallow (or not very strong) stop
pins on the focus mount and can helicoid seperate (an alarming thing when
it happens).
The Bronica cameras have notoriously hard to mount Polaroid backs.
Bronica's Sei ko leaf shutters aren't as well insulated against volt
spikes as they could be and suffer sync failure more often than other leaf
shuttered makes, from user reports I've seen.
H'blads have a tendency to malfunction and lock lens/body together when
the lens es firing cam is not carefully aligned with the flange. 2000
series cameras have ea sily dented, fragile and exposed titanium shutters.
Exacta 66's/Petacon 6's have notoriously flaky film advance +film counter
mechanisms.
Mamiya 6 cameras have poor dust seals in the viewfinders, which eventually
results in poor meter readings. Collapsing the lens on the body is not
protected against gr avity, allowing the lens to 'crash' into the body and
can cause RF alignment errors as well as damage to the lenses ground rear
cam.
Plaubel Makina 67/67W and 670's all have flaky, stranded meter connect
wires tha t are stressed when the lens is collapsed, eventually leading to
meter failure. LLens crash on folding is terrible with these cameras as
well and since the struts are less rob ust than the Mamiya 6's, front end
aligment problems are reportedly common.
You want to hear some 35mm answers too?
Danny Gonzalez
rec.photo.equipment.medium-format
From: "Mike" nedsnake@email.msn.com
[1] Re: Design Defects--Which ones do you know of?
Date: Sat May 02 12:14:53 CDT 1998
I have serviced Bronica's forover 15 years....the sync failure has nothing
to do with insulation.....but with sync contact failure.....one contact
breaks. Because the bulk of my repair experiance is with Mamiya & Bronica
I can compare the two brands in general. In GENERAL....where magazines
are used you will have magazine problems with both brands. There will be
fewer body problems with Bronica and slightly fewer shutter problems with
Bronica. The only way you can prevent a camera from failing is....don't
use it.
Mike
[Nikon Mailing List]
Date: Sun, 03 May 1998
From: "P.O.V. Image Service" pov_image@ultracom.net
Subject: Finger through the shutter!!
Replacement is $144 from NPS and about a ten day wait...
Just got a shutter replaced -- plus a new body top for $195 w/only a one
day turnaround at PhotoTech in Manhattan...
Mario is great!!
Keith Krebs
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998
From: Imageslide@aol.com
Subject: Re: [KOML] KOML Posts
John
Leaf shutter lenses all stick or slow down with age. Send it to the
repair shop,
the place I use charges 58.00 for a total clean and lubrication.
Bobscamera.com It would be helpful to have a manual for this camera,
there are some peculiararities with them. Check Shutterbug for a dealer
who sells manuals. There is one guy who has thousands, I think his
name is Jim Craig, he will have it. Good luck.
Rick
Date: Wed, 20 May 1998
From: Peter Klosky PKlosky@bdm.com
To: hasselblad@kelvin.net
Subject: RE: Is it a good price? -Reply
Depending on condition...it might be a very good deal, and it might be a
very bad deal.
For example, a 150C that looked mint was found to run badly during my
first use of it. Hasselblad USA, NJ, is billing me $347, and expects to
send it back well after my season is underway, due to their heavy load
as well as delay I introduced by selecting someone else to work on it,
who did not fix it.
Camera repair has always been a difficult area. My experience in 23
years of pro shooting is that when you get a camera back from service,
it often has the same original problem right away, obviously. What I am
saying is that in my own experience, about half the time you get a
camera item back from repair, it does not work. In several cases, I have
found that a new problem has been introduced. It must be quite a
challenge to put a camera together properly.
From: Tony Doucet tdoucet@hydro.mb.ca
Subject: Response to Hasselblad magazine light trap relacement
Date: 1998-06-05
You can replace the parts yourself, as already noted, but if the light traps
are worn out it is probably time for a clean, lube, adjust. I had my backs
done at a local repair shop and they charged me 3/4 hour labour plus the
parts.
The bill was around $60 CAD, so it would probably be $45 US or less.
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998
From: Peter Klosky PKlosky@bdm.com
To: hasselblad@kelvin.net
Subject: mount obsolescence economics Re: new hasselblad competitors
-Reply
VHB and HB/USA get little direct profit from the huge used market
resale of HB lenses and accessories ...
True, but there are several indirect ways they profit, greatly. HB/USA
provides service, and they are not cheap. For example, they charged
me $347 to fix a sluggish 150C, and a friend $200 to fix a loose PC
socket on an 80CF. The high prices on the used market do benefit the
new sales, too. People know that new items will "hold their value" on
resale. This may be by HB design. i.e. Raise new prices, and used
items become more attractive.
rec.photo.equipment.medium-format
From: Tom Johnston johnstn@okway.okstate.edu
[1] Repairs for P67?
Date: Fri Jul 10 11:29:55 CDT 1998
I have a Pentax 6x7 which has been giving me problems with film
advance. Sometimes, after the exposure has been made the film transport
system locks up (or does not unlock) to permit film advance.
The other day, I was loading it and after matching the arrows, I closed
the back and began to advance the film to the first frame. But it
didn't come to a detente--it just kept going.
I unloaded the film and took the camera to a photo repair place. They
don't work on anything but 35's so they shipped it to Pentax for a
repair quote. When I got the quote back, they said the film transport
sub-assemblies had worn gears that needed to be replaced and the job
would cost $553, not including freight and insurance.
I said "no", because this struck me as a little excessive, since I could
put about $400 with that amount and get a brand new body. Is Pentax
off-base, or am I not seeing something I should be seeing?
rec.photo.equipment.medium-format
From: "Mike" NEDSNAKE@email.msn.com
[1] Re: Repairs for P67?
Date: Fri Jul 10 19:55:27 CDT 1998
The shop may have added a markup. I know the last 6x7 i sent to Pentax for
the very same problem ran right around $350. I service medium format
equipment and once repaired a P67....same transport repair as you need. I
wont do another one. Its not a quick job.
Mike
Date: Sun, 5 Jul 1998
From: Alfred Breull puma@hannover.sgh-net.de
Subject: Re: mount obsolescence economics Re: new hasselblad competitors-Reply
Someone wrote:
>>Hasselblad is like the tire stores your wife may go to. You >>want a new set of tires. Before you are done, they tell you that you >>need new brakes, new shocks, etc. This is not fair to anyone-this is >>just plain robbery
Although their bills are somehow delicate, it is untrue for Hasselblad
Germany. Last week I paid DM 750.--, about USD 410, for CLA plus replacement
of minor to medium shutter parts in my 1961 SWC. They needed 2 weeks, while
I'm still waiting for the return of both my Leicas from Solms since 7 weeks.
Alf
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998
From: Bob_Maxey@mtn.3com.com
Subject: Camera Repair Parts
I have ordered repair parts for my Mamiya camera(s) from Mamiya USA and
was
NEVER asked to give any kind of serial numbers or warranty card
information.
Here is a little known fact: Manufacturers are required to supply repair
parts to those who need them. There are only a few extenuating
circumstances where that can refuse - if they do not have an ample supply
of parts to meet 'expected Repair needs', for example. It is the same for
repair books and manuals as well. The costs are high to most peoplre who
need them, or it can be.
RM
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998
From: Peter Klosky PKlosky@bdm.com
To: hasselblad@kelvin.net
Subject: light trap service -Reply
Simon,
Thanks for the email. It happens I just had a fantastic repair
experience, which I am anxious to relate. I used Gil Ghitelman, NYC, and
they treated me well. They are in Shutterbug. Details follow.
As many of you may know, I have had some difficulty getting good service
for my Hasselblad. I had sent a sluggish 150 to Paul Ebel, and it arrived
back worse off than when sent, and took three times as long as estimated.
Further, Hasselblad charged me $347 to fix it, which I paid, though the
price was perhaps high and the turnaround was about three weeks. I was
glad they did the work, of course, but I felt a quicker, cheaper service
was available.
So I sent my 500 C/M to Gil Ghitelman, NYC. Gil and Doris have always
been able to "speak Hasseblad" over the phone, so I thought I would send
some paying business their way. They have a third person, Chris, who does
repairs. They claim he has 30 years experience, and based on my results,
he probably does. Even over the phone, Doris told me to send my backs,
too, as they may have been part of the problem. Gil also pointed out an
NPC back can bend the hooks. So I sent everything registered mail. Doris
said she would schedule time for my job. This is a great concept. I like
it better than, "It takes us an hour, no matter how many people show up."
I have always found scheduling is more realistic. So I mailed off all my
backs and my body. My problem was unusual and difficult to describe, but
they listened patiently. For example, I had to explain that I use the
camera right side up as well as on its side, which is odd when you first
hear it.
They did a fine job. They went through the whole set, and checked over
everything. The price to rebuild the body was $120, and they added about
$18 for some part, a spring. They reported that full disassembly was
needed to bring the body case closer to the part that seals the light, and
that some silicone was used to fill the gap. Looks great, run perfectly.
In fact, that body runs so quietly that I was concerned it was not
working. However, the film came out fine, so it was firing.
While they had the rig, they went ahead and replaced the dark slide seal
in my old 12 back. I thought that was fine, but I trust their judgement.
they also said it needed lubrication as it was gummy. They charge for the
back rebuild was $80 plus $8.80 for the dark slide seal. The 12 back runs
great, spacing evenly. I put high speed film in the back, removed the
dark slide, and let the full sun shine right into the body/back break for
a half hour, with no fogging noted.
They understood what it meant for me to need the gear for a specific job.
They fixed the camera in well under a week, enabling them to use UPS 2nd
day air to get it to me several days before my job. They charged $15 for
the $1500 declared value shipment, less than I had authorized, which was
fedEx. Their packing job was the final note in an outstanding
performance. Not only was the gear in plastic bags for rain, and bubble
wrap and peanuts for shock, but also the body had die-cut cardboard fitted
to the front and top, to prevent handling damage during shipment. Only a
firm that deals with Hasselblad a lot could come up with this last piece.
I am enjoying my fixed rig. I'm glad they went through it, fixing this
and that.
Peter
Date: Fri, 07 Aug 1998
From: g g gjgoldy@prodigy.net
Subject: Camera repair
Well, the EM I was hoping to acquire looks EX+, but the mirror bumper is
deteriorated, crumbling, and virtually not there. Nikon quoted $67 - 91.
My local camera repair place quoted $36. Both are high for a $90 camera.
This looks easy. Does anybody know if a careful person who has built small
electronics in the past could do this on his own? If so, where would I
get the part and where might I find instructions on removing the old
bumper and gluing in the new one, aside from just how to bet best get to
the bumper?
GG
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998
From: "Harry M. Fleenor" hfleenor@bnet.org
To: rollei@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
Subject: Re: [Rollei] Upside down Rollei
>List, >I'm a proud new owner of a Rolleiflex 2.8D. Doing some dry fire tests, >shutter set at 1 sec. How close is one second on the Rollei. When held >upside down, tripped the shutter the timer hangs, bring back to normal >position continues functioning. Is this a normal.
Hello John,
To repair your self timer only will cost less than a shutter overhaul.
I would have to examine your Rolleiflex 2.8D to estimate it but usually less
than $55.-- plus parts and shipping for self timer repair only.
To Repair the self timer and overhaul the shutter at the same time is
usually $84.-- plus parts and shipping.
Thank You
Harry Fleenor
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From Medium Format Digest:
From: David Birkbeck ferrari@earthlink.net
Subject: Response to Reliability of Rollei SL 66 E ?
Date: 1998-09-21
My 72 model SL66 has worked liked a champ. The only problem I had was
after she
went for a 2ft drop, from my hands, and took a 3 flip bounce across a church
lawn. A jammed shutter release was the only damage. Essex of NJ fixed her up
for $280 US. I think the heart stopping accident was due to holding a 35mm
camera while winding the Rollei on. You would need 2 more hands I think.
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998
From: "Stuart A. Pearl" sapearl@mindspring.com
Cc: sapearl@mindspring.com
Subject: CLA Charges
For those who are curious about the cost of preventive mainentance (or
getting into Hassy), here are the following CLA charges in Cleveland,
Ohio at a place called ProCam.
Body Disassembly, Clean & Lube $160.00
Lens, same $120.00
Film Back $ 95.00
Any parts would be extra. Now, before the flames start shooting, I
realize there are people who will do this work cheaper. However, this
is a very reputable factory authorized shop that does excellent work,
whose folks will take the time to chat at great length with you over the
phone or counter. I was in a jam once with an A24 Back - bad framing,
overlapping - and they had it fixed in 3 days.
- Stu Pearl sapearl@mindspring.com
From Medium Format Digest:
From: Toby Chey tchey@hotmail.com
Subject: Hasselblad overhaul, what do they do to my camera?
Date: 1998-10-01
I send my 500cm to an authorized hassy service center in order to fix
the problem with the 2nd shutter and so on. they told me the 360
canadian dollars fee with include fixing my camera and a check up
(overhaul) what do they do in the overhaul process? do they really
disassemble my camera and lens completely, recalibrating everything
and put them back together? anyone familiar with this subject? cause
giving 360 bucks away (i am a student in photography by the way)
without knowing what they are doing is scary. and, in additiopn, do
they diassemble my lens, clean them, lube them, and put them back
together (with focus calibration)? thanks for help.
From Medium Format Digest:
From: Tsun Tam ttam@cybernex.net
Subject: Response to Hasselblad overhaul, what do they do to my camera?
Date: 1998-10-05
My understanding is that they disassemble the camera, replace parts that need replacing and 'put the thing back together' the way they do it in the factory (i.e., to specs using Hasselblad guages and measuring tools.)
I had mine done by the US agents in New Jersey for a labor charge of $170.00 and whatever parts they put in. This was the charge for the body only. The lens repair prices varies with the type of work they do. I had my 150 serviced for shutter and focusing mount cleaning and the total cost is higher than that that was charged for my 500s.
When you get your camera back, make sure you check all operating controls (i.e., mirror pre-release, shutter time-release lock-lever around the shutter release, and any other camera functions) before leaving the repair shop. I had to have my 500C re-repaired because it was jamming.
From Medium Format Digest:
From: Bob Atkins bobatkins@Hotmail.com
Subject: Response to I need the BEST Fuji GS645 Folder repair shop!
Date: 1998-11-23
Just to complete the story....I ended up calling Fuji and getting
through to their GS645 expert (I wanted to find out exactly what
parts they needed and if they would ever be available). Turns out the
front desk (or whoever was supposed to deal with the camera) never
passed the camera along to him. Someone must have just looked at it,
not known quite what it was, "figured out" they didn't repair GS645s
and sent it back to me!! So back it went to Fuji, this time addressed
to the right guy. There was, in fact, no problem repairing it, the
total bill came to about $50 and it works perfectly again. I guess it
shows you sometimes it pays not to take their first answer!
From Medium Format Digest:
From: Richard Livitski trubeliever@webtv.net
Subject: TLR Lenses, Do They Deliver?
Date: 1998-11-30
I currently own a C-220 w/55mm,80mm, and Super 180 lenses,
all black versions. I was having a hard time getting sharp
pictures over 11x11 in size, even when using a tripod. I
sent the camera back to Mamiya to have them work on it and
got back an estimate for $911. OUCH! My question is, with
the possibility of having to pay $911 for sharper pictures,
just how sharp are these lenses in the first place? Ive
heard that some have no coatings thus introducing possible
flair problems, but this aside, at 16x16 or 20x20, do these
lenses deliver? Thank-you
[Ed. note - sounded like a brush-off to me too as price is crazy! ;-) ]
Mamiya wants $911 to fix the body??? What did they say needed to be
done? You can buy three used c330f bodies for that!
...
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998
I'd like to pass on a recent experience I had with Rollei parts.
I bought a mintish Rollei SLX with 80mm planar and 50mm distagon for a
very good (low) price because the battery was dead and wouldn't take a
charge. After establishing that the camera was in good working order
with a friend's battery I began looking for a new replacement. I first
checked a local pro shop who quoted me $157 for a new battery, then
Marflex who quoted me full list of $196 for a new battery and $95 to
rebuild my old one. (Another service shop quoted $90 to do the rebuild).
Then I called B&H; who quoted $99.95 for a brand new battery. I ordered
two on tuesday afternoon and had them in hand on thursday.
Michael Buchmeier (buchm@scripps.edu)
Newsgroups: rec.photo.equipment.medium-format
NOTfspicer@ns.sympatico.ca
says...
Ouch. Yes, definitely time for a CLA.
How much would one expect to pay for a cla on each lens?
I paid 150.00 for mine, and it involved replacing a few springs
and the like. This was on a 150.00. It was done by Precision
Camera in New Jersey. The owner was a factory technician for
Hasselblad, and he is extremely knowledgable, and reasonable.
He even removed a dust spon on my 80 for free when I sent in the
150 for the CLA.
rec.photo.equipment.35mm
I'm curious about how others weigh the decision to repair or pitch
photo gear which, if not repaired, will not be replaced--camera bag
"seconds," as it were. I personally find it difficult to toss
equipment which has One Known Problem (I think that's my Scots blood
at work) , and yet the cost to repair it so often seems to exceed the
marginal utility of fixing it.
For instance, I have two cameras in house with specific known
problems: a Canon TL-QL SLR (my first SLR) with a dead meter, and a
Nikon ZoomTouch400 p&s; (my wife's first decent camera) with a stripped
film advance sprocket.
I had the Nikon repaired once, by Nikon (it broke about two months out
of warranty), but it broke again--same problem--a year later (which is
worse than it sounds, as it was perhaps half a dozen rolls of film
later). At that point I decided "design flaw" and bought my wife an
Olympus Zoom211 (which has performed very well).
I'm looking at both these cameras at the moment, wondering why I still
have 'em, and yet not quite able to drop them in the trash. Am I the
only one who has this problem? Would you repair, or pitch? And if
you'd repair one or the other, where would you take or send it? I live
in the Lansing, MI area, and camera repair shops are pretty thin on
the ground here (there are five listings in the Yellow Pages, and I
know that at least three of them send their repairs out).
I'd love to hear others' thoughts on the general issue and the
specific cameras.
Best,
K-Mac
From Medium Format Digest:
For about 8 years, I've owned and happily used a Rollei 2.8E TLR
(Planar, no meter) in very good condition. Recently, the longer
shutter times have become sluggish, so I asked AIFO, the Swedish
Rollei rep (I live in Stockholm, Sweden), to send it in and get me an
estimate for a shutter CLA. They sent it to the factory, and after a
couple of months I got a repair estimate of 4800 SEK, which is USD
620!!! Besides the shutter, they wanted to CLA the film transport
(which has always worked perfectly, with smooth and silent action and
even spacing on the film). Nothing else was mentioned in the
estimate, and parts were only USD 50 of the total cost. Of course I
rejected this exorbitant offer, and today I got the camera back,
obviously never opened, for a fee of 438 SEK, that is USD 56.
So here I am, poorer but not much wiser, with the same problem I
started out with. I've carefully read the relevant threads in both
the Rollei list FAQ and the MFD, and it seems that several reputable
repairmen in the US charge about USD 160 to 200 for similar jobs.
Short of sending the camera across the globe to Harry Fleenor or Bob
Maxwell, I would like to ask the list:
1) Is this sort of pricing typical for Rollei factory service, or am
I just being had?
2) Does anybody know of a reliable repair facility in Sweden, or at
least within the European Community?
3) How much "Rollei-specific" knowledge and tools is needed to do
the job? Could I trust a general camera serviceman (who knows Compur
shutters), or should I insist on Rollei experience?
4) Since I only use the camera hand-held anyhow, and speeds from
1/15 up seem OK, I am rather tempted to go on using the camera as it
is, for the time being. Do I risk damaging the shutter by doing so?
Frankly, I am not worried about the film transport, or about anything
else, since everything works well and feels smooth and reliable.
Please help me! I am a Rollei addict!
Regards
Per
From Hasselblad User Group:
Austin,
I described my problem, light leaking body, over the phone. They
asked me to send the body, as well as my backs. They promised to fix
it in a week.
They sent it back quite promptly, and it works perfectly. I recall,
roughly, that the rebuild of the 500 C/M body was $120. They also
wanted to go through the 12 back I sent, even though I thought it
worked fine. I let them do that, and it still works. I recall the
back rebuild was $70, including new light seals. I was quite happy
with the service overall. What I liked the best was the brief time
they spent working on it, and their accurate estimate of when they
could deliver the service. In my work, weddings, the bride does not
want to hear "I'll have that old camera fixed in another week" on her
wedding day.
When I used Hasselblad, NJ, they took several weeks, and charged $347
to rebuild a 150C, which I did find a high price. They provided no
estimate of costs until they had held onto the lens for a good long
while; their phone service was "send it, we'll look at it." I'll
still keep them in mind for service, if no one else can do the work.
I'm highly pleased at the overall availability of parts for the Hassy.
Other makers, including Fuji and Canon, have an attitude that
anything over five years old may not be serviceable, in terms of parts
availability.
As far as their gear prices, I see, in my October Shutterbug:
A12 - Exc+ - $395
While these are perhaps not "way out," I agree that lower prices can
be found, as I paid $150 for my NPC back. However, the convenience of
their broad selection and their highly available warranty service
might be worth it to someone. As you say, that someone is probably
not us. To be clear, I have bought a number of items for my
Hasselblad in the last year: lenses, tubes, adapters, screens, backs,
knobs, etc., and none have been purchased from them.
Peter
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999
I bought the FC/M, which retracts the shutter when the back is removed, at
least if you have the camera cocked at the time.
When I purchased it, I called up Hasselblad to inquire as to the cost of a
new shutter. $400, I was quoted. A quick mental calculation suggested I
could destroy at least 7 of the things before approaching the cost of a
(then) new 201F. This was a pretty easy decision! So far, I've failed to
destroy a single one, and if I buy a 201F, it'll be because the prices have
dropped lots, and they've got a shutter lock that works.
Date: Sun, 09 May 1999
I have had the very same problem. The effect looked like lens flare. I had
my equipment checked at a recent Hasselblad service day and the confirmed
that 4 out of my 7 backs had problems with the light trap. The service chap
said that it normally occurred in either corner of the back where the
darkslide is pushed in. The service engineer quoted me o60.00 + vat per back
and o160.00 + vat for fixing the shutter speeds on a 120mm macro. As I
thought a couple of the backs were under warranty I telephoned MXV in East
Sussex and they put me in touch with there repairer. It is safe to say that
the figures quoted, assuming you are professional, were considerably cheaper
than Hasselblad's.They told me to send the backs direct to MXV as they are
only just down the road and pick up from them two or three times a day. All
my equipment will be going to them for a service on Monday so I could let
you know how I get on later.
Andrew Ripley
From: bladfixer@aol.com (BladFixer)
I charge $140 + parts for a complete overhaul on an SWC/M. Parts
generally run
another $25-$30 for a total of about $170. If you send it in I can give
you a
free estimate.
Thank you,
From: "Michael Liczbanski" nospam@nospam.net
That's why you need to CLA and generally do more preventive maintenance
(including replacement of parts that are most likely to fail) more often
with MF format gear than with 35 mm stuff. Ask a proficient (and honest)
camera repair person for the list of stuff that needs to be adjusted or
replaced every x number of exposures on a particular brand/model of MF
camera. You'd be suprised :-)
MF cameras are larger, with larger shutters, mirrors, etc. and corresponding
larger stress on these components, hence the need for more frequent
adjustments.
An amateur (like I) who runs 10-20 rolls of film per month through the
camera, may need to have it serviced every 2-3 years (mostly due to
lubricants drying out, BTW) but a busy pro may need to call on his/her
friendly repair shop every couple of months.
Michael
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999
Fletcher Jernigan wrote:.....Marfax do a CLA at a cost of about
$250.
Oops.....should be Marflex at a cost of $136.80.
Sorry about that. Should have looked it up in the first place. I found
Marflex does excellent work and good people to deal with.
Fletcher
Date: Wed, 26 May 1999
I just had my ECTL repaired at KOH Camera, for exactly the same problem.
They charged 175.00 and also replaced the foam around the Ground Glass. The
only problem was it took about 6 weeks.
- Michael Lewin
you wrote:
Date: Wed, 26 May 1999
Being a professional photographer I rely a great deal on good service,
which is
one thing I have never got from the new tampon/bronica people. They were slow
on repairs and didn't seem to have any quality control. I had a lens that was
causing my body to lock up that was repaired by bronica numerous times but
always a new and different, although somewhat the same, problem would arise.
I finally sent my lens and camera to
B.D.C Camera Repair in Madison Wisconsin. (608)257-6315
They not only returned my lens in excellent working condition but guaranteed
their work for 1 year. The total turnover time was about 1 week and cost me
$125.00.
I might say the Bronica's bills were over 400.00 and I will never use Bronica
service again.
I have used B.D.C numerous times again and they have always provided
excellent
service. I might inject that they do ALL camera repairs so for us with mixed
systems (bromica,contax,canon etc) it a blessing.
Hope this helps
Phil
...
rec.photo.equipment.35mm
I have a trusty 'ol FM, but if given the choice, if you specifically prefer
Nikon to service the camera rather than an independent service facility,
then you might consider the later model FM2. Last year I had to have a
simple repair to my FM (the film advance lever occassionally slipped loose
and had to be retightened every couple dozen shots or else I would get
overlapping frames), but because of its "age" (over 15 years old), Nikon
would not touch it, although many of the parts are the same as the FM2 that
they currently service.
I took the camera to an independent repair shop, and he fixed the "simple"
problem for a minimal $25 fee.
My FM flashsyncs at 1/125 second, still not bad compared to earlier focal
plane shutter cameras from a generation earlier that flashsynced at 1/30 or
1/60.
The F2 is even older than the FM, if I recall. Ask around about
serviceability at your favorite repair facility, particularly if the
built-in meter can be serviced.
....
Date: Fri, 01 Oct 1999
Peter Klosky wrote:
It is like the old saying, "a sucker is born every minute".
Anyone who would pay Hasselblad $347 to redo a shutter is out of their
mind. When redoing a shutter, and just doing it once in awhile, it takes
about 25 minutes. When you are doing them all the time, you can do one
every 15 minutes, start to finish.
A word to the wise-find a good repair shop. They will do you everybit as
good, and charge you a fraction of the Hasselblad repair price.
A good one to contact, would be........
I do not know what he charges now, as I do my own shutter repair. I
would guess that his price is under $75, with a one day turn around.
With Hasselblad, they will shelf it for 3 weeks, then charge you an arm
and a leg. The Hasselblad ripoff's on repair, is one of the reasons I
wrote the repair manual for the film magazines. What really pushed me to
do it, was I had 3 people in one day with the same problem. The crank
would not stop at #1 when loading the film. Even the lower priced local
repair shops were wanting to charge $85/$125. Hasselblad would have been
double this. All this for a 3 minute job to put a drop of oil on one
certain kog. Be careful with your repairs and don't get ripped.
Dick
From: gordonray@my-deja.com
jichun@my-deja.com wrote:
A Repair Persons Point of View - The Minoltas have a weak point. The
aperture base plate breaks on them frequently. It is a major repair. If
you need it done find someone who will modify it rather than replace it
. If you replace it it could break again. A proper modification will fix
the problem. As far as the lenses go I am sure they are fine.
Before you switch to Nikon - their weak point is the shutter. They fail
and are hidiously expensive to replace- mainly due to Nikon's arrogance
about their product ( the parts are priced way too high).
Canon - the main complaint is the mode switch which breaks. This can
also be modified (a full repair). I have a Canon A2 and am very pleased
with it.A lot of pros use Canon now.
If I had the money I would buy a Leica . I used them in my work once.
Some were 20 years old and had literally had 100 rolls a weekrun thru
them. Maybe one day..
Date: Fri, 01 Oct 1999
Austin,
I didn't think $347 for a shutter repair by Hasselblad USA was a low
price, nor did I think they lost money. I was glad they did the job and
sell parts, though. I'm not convinced the big difference in price we pay
in the US when we use HAsselblad USA instead of Hong Kong or Caymen or
whoever else helped finance a loss on that repair job.
Peter
Austin Franklin austin@darkroom.com
Advertising, sponsorship of various local, state and nat'l pro-oriented
organizations, dealer support and dealer staff trainin. their USA web site
and toll-free 800 numbers, warranty repair service, participation in trade
shows, their sales staff. The list goes on and on.
[Austin] Hum, I'll add to that list...buy new BMWs, a yacht here and
there....fancy dinners, nice vacations....
All sarcasm aside, how come they can do that SAME thing in Sweden (and
elsewhere in the world) and do it for %40 LESS? The don't have
advertising, sponsorship, organizations, dealer support/training, web site,
repair service, trade shows and a sales staff in Europe? They are making a
profit everywhere else in the world these are sold....I still don't see the
EXTRA expenses here in the US. It just appears as greedy to me.
rec.photo.equipment.misc
I recently sent the above lens to Mamiya USA to get a repair estimate, as
the shutter was sticking sporadically. They mailed me back an estimate
saying "lens has old style shutter, parts not available due to age. Requires
a new shutter unit to repair- $323." I was under the impression that all the
"Black" lenses had the new shutters and the "Chrome" were the old models. I
have emailed this question to Mamiya twice this week and received no reply.
Can someone shed some wisdom on the subject for me? Thanx- F.
rec.photo.equipment.medium-format
Ken
Subject: Kowa Lens/Shutter question
When you push the small pin the shutter blades should promptly close. Your
shutter/lens needs cleaning. Particularly the ring that closes the iris
blades. Yes IRIS blades. I used to repair a lot of KOWA shutters and found
this out the hard way. About a $125.00 job with no other problems.
Bob AZ
From: "Sherman" sdunnam@super-highway.net
S.K. Grimes did a CLA on one of my shutters this past spring and I think it
was about $60 or so. It works like a charm now!
I think his URL is www.skgrimes.com
From Nikon Mailing List:
Hi Folks, I posted the following message on the NikonRepair onelist. If
anyone here can help it would be appreciated. I hope I offending no one by
referencing this other list.
Let us assume for now that this is what's really wrong with the camera. Any
help out there?? If you would be so kind as to respond in duplicate to the
Nikonrepair list also. Thanks Howard
From Nikon Mailing List:
At 02:38 PM 02/06/2000 -0600, you wrote:
I just had a 70-210 Zoom repaired by Nikon for fungus on the inside of the
rear lens.
They classified it a a class "C" repair, charged $140, and made some
repair to the Zoom mechanism as well (I hadn't noticed anything wrong with
it).
They have to take the lens apart, and reassemble, realign and columnate
the optics.
You should probably plan on adding this much $ to the eventual cost of the
lens you are looking at.
- -Gary
From Rollei Mailing List:
In the San Francisco Bay Area, I recomment Jimmie at East Bay Camera
Exchange located in Oakland. Jimmie has CLA'd three or four Rolleis for
me at a cost of less than $100. I have experienced no failures since.
Roland Smith
From Rollei Mailing List:
Harry will be evasive without seeing the camera, but the estimate is
free. I think CLA on my MX was $115, but I also had him replace a
broken latch pin and install a Maxwell screen, so the total tab was
around $240.
--
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000
There is a fellow in Ann Arbor Michigan, Heinz Grassoff, who repairs
Rolleis. His rate is (or was) $135. It doesn't matter what is wrong with
the camera, as he tears it all down and puts it back together
again-cleaned and lubed, and in good working order.
Once I had a repair job for him, and called in advance trying to explain
what I thought was wrong with the camera. Heinz kindly told me that it
wasn't necessary to tell me what was wrong with the camera as he simply
takes them apart and puts them together again. When he finished up the
rolleis work like they are suppose to work.
I guess they make them that way in Germany.
John
....
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000
Heinz does great work...if you tell him NOT to touch up paint...but his
rates vary with model type. A couple years back, having him service a
Rolleiflex T ran $140, but an E or F was about $180. I'd give him a call
to see what he's currently charging. The number I have for him is
313-971-3398.
Regards,
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000
just a straight CLA is about 100 bucks, but you may need to have parts
replaced (weak springs, worn this, cracked that) so you may pay a little
more. However, for the 10-20 dollars it costs to ship the camera back and
forth, it is not worth guessing. just pack the thing up and send it to
Harry. He also keeps a database of the repair work he has done and you may
even be able to get some service history.
andre
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000
Yes, word has spread that Harry does fine work and his turnaround times
are running long. The last Rolleis I sent out for a CLA were a pair of
Rolleicords, a V and a Va, sent off to Marflex. They did a fine job, and
had the cameras back to me in less than a week. Of course, they also
charged double (no exaggeration) what Harry charges. When I got the
quotes, I didn't look closely and thought the price was for both cameras.
Since I'd paid rather little for the 'cords, and in light of the super
fast service, I didn't think I had much room to complain. Just be
forewarned.
Regards,
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000
Fleenor IS good! I sent my circa 1953 Rollei to him for CLA, adjustment
of the back lock and installation of a new focusing screen. I was told
the camera received a CLA three years ago. Harry said it did not need a
CLA but that the focus was off. He fixed the back, adjusted the focus and
put a bright screen, with RF center in for just over $200.00. Had he said
CLA was necessary I would have Ok'd it, but he was scrupulously honest:
he even emailed me twice to be absolutely sure about the screen I wanted.
And the work he did is fine! I recommend him!
Jack Casner
From Hasselblad Mailing List:
Maybe it would be wiser to cantact the guys who made this lens directly:
Carl Zeiss in Germany/Oberkochen. When I had a problem I contacted Mr.
Caillet (caillet@zeiss.de). It might be necessary to send the lens to
Germany though. He was very friendly although the lens was a write-off. I
was told that the repair is done cheaper and faster by Zeiss than by
Hasselblad. As I understand it, at Hasselblad/Germany they do only minor
repair jobs on lenses like cleaning/lubricating.
Ulrik
From Hasselblad Mailing List;
Cornelius.Braun@t-online.de writes:
is anybody interested in a 201 F- Body ??? It's brandnew, boxed, and
has full guarantee.
That guarantee is important! I recently purchased a "mint" 201F and found
that the shutter was a little off, sent it to Hasselblad thinking it would
be just a small adjustment. They said the electronics needed changing:
$837!!! Thankfully I was able to return it for a full refund. (They
offered to have it repaired for me, but I passed. Any camera with that
little automation that could require that much repair expense without
falling down a mountain is *not* for me!) But the 201F is a great camera
in concept.
From Pentax Mailing List:
From Leica Topica Mailing List:
InfinityDT@aol.com wrote:
That is bunk. Leica is very reasonable for all of my repairs (and they are
many) and time was mostly less than 11 days. But then I'm a pro. When I
don't get the pro rush, it can take a month. Prices rarely went over $125.
An R4 overhaul was about $325. I'd hate to think of the cost to repair the
front element of an APO lens. :-)
Considering the size of the company, and considering Nikon and Canon I've
seen take months for some repiars, that's pretty good. Of course, for
professionals they get better service from Nikon and Canon. How many here
are pros compared to amateurs (and don't assume I think one is bette than
the other folks!) in this group? That's the relevant number.
--
From Hasselblad Mailing List:
Hasselblad users,
Does anyone else think $250 is a little high to CLA a 500C/M body? I just
got a quote for that from a local fellow, and wondered if anyone had an
opinion. This particular body had another CLA a year ago, but now has
started locking up when mirror pre-release is used.
Peter
From Hasselblad Mailing List:
Yes, I just spent about 268 for CLA on a 500 cm and a CLA and Traps on a
120 back. Did it through Hassie USA. The Back was 68 for labor and 15 for
parts.
From Leica (Topica) Mailing List:
ewelch@flashcom.net writes:
Be glad you've had good luck with Contax. I've heard
worse horror stories from that side from a professional aerial
photographer
in Germany. But I don't assume that means Contax is a bad company.
I've heard nothing but great things about Contax/Yashica USA service. I
know several people who've used them and the service was quick (about 2
wks) and very inexpensive ($75 for an overhaul on an S2) compared to the
long waits, staggering fees and less-than-satisfactory-the-first-time
servicing by Leica USA.
Newsgroups: rec.photo.equipment.medium-format
A new shutter from Tamron will run $275.00 - $300.00 USD, its been a while
since I ordered one. Add about $40 - $50 to install it. Not cheap.
Mike
"Bob Hickey" f11bob@webtv.net wrote
From: mceowen@aol.com (McEowen)
My local guy charged $65 to CLA a Nikon FE2
From: ewindell@psci.net (Gene Windell)
mceowen@aol.com (McEowen) wrote:
I recently sent in a Nikon FE2 to have a fault in the battery power
circuit repaired. While it was there, I had them do a CLA and replace
the foam light seals and mirror cushion foam. They did a particularly
good job of cleaning the dust and debris out of the viewing system, so
it is now spotless like new. Total cost, including shipping was $109.
The name of the repair facility is Camtronics, Inc. - located in
Colombus, Ohio. They have a Web site, and do cost estimates by
E-mail.
Gene Windell
From Hasselblad Mailing List:
Mark,
Hasselblad in NJ has a kit for the conversion, however they will not
sell it, you have to send it to them and they will do the work, the
cost quoted to me was $285.00 this includes return shipping, however
if the camera requires any other service it will be additional
charges.
Hope this was of some help.
Ernie G.
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000
Of course every situation is different. I recently paid about $180
dollars to have my ancient Hasselblad SWC CLA'd. The shutter was in bad
need of cleaning and adjustment. That price also included replacing the
light seals on one magazine. I have been quoted $225.00 for a complete
overhaul on my 1954 Rolleiflex TLR by a very experienced a reputable
fellow who specializes in Rollei. So I don't think the price you cited is
out of line. It sounds reasonable to me in fact. If the camera is 25
years old and never been serviced. it is only costing about $6.00 per year
or so. Not too bad IMO.
rlong5@my-deja.com wrote
From Leica (Topica) Mailing List:
Roland:
The number is (905) 479-0167. A CLA for a M3 is about $260 CAD.
Regards,
Robert
...
[Ed. note: damaged elements can be replaced on otherwise okay lenses,
often cheaper than regrinding lens - don't forget to add labor costs!]
Date: 09/13/2000
1020760001000 Front Element is available $186.00
....
From Rollei Mailing List;
Ruth quoted me $255 to re-curtain an Exakta shutter. Essex quotes
$160 for the same job. Are Ruth's other rates as steep?
--
FRom Nikon MF Mailing List:
you wrote:
---snip--
The local repair shop, the one that the local pros use, charged me $35 USD
for a CLA and to replace the mirror foam on my F2. The seals around the
back were fine.
--
FRom Nikon MF Mailing List:
I had sent my FE2 to Nikon to be cleaned and checked. It came back with
the meter being off by 2 stops. I check my meters by the f16 rule. It
does help. When I sent it, it was perfect. I did a test roll and I cold
tell. So I sent it back and asked if they would put it back to were it
was. They sent it back no charge and it was off only one stop. I
accepted this. I didn't gripe, cause they did what I had asked. I should
have stated to keep the meter were it was.
Working at a camera store at the time, I saw a lot of cameras get repair
list when sent for just cleaning. When you do they totally check them
out and get them up to new condition, except cosmetically, unless it
affected the operation.
Bill
From Nikon MF Mailing List:
--- Bob Barnes barnesrl@bright.net wrote:
Prices in Canada seem to be lower, but I paid $80
Canadian (about $53 US) to have the seals replaced,
the meter calibrated, and the shutter checked (it was
fine) on a Nikkormat FTn a couple of years ago.
Jim
From: ash13brook@aol.com (Ash13brook)
I recently sent my 500C to Brad Sherman because it wouldn't focus to
infinity with any of my lenses. I had gotten a previous estimate from
International Camera in Chicago of $450 to rebuild both lenses and adjust
the lens to film plane distance. This sounded strange to me so I sent it
to Brad for an estimate(free). He said I needed the screen installed
properly and that the old 12 back could use going over and a light trap
replacement. Total for the job if I wanted to do everything - $40 for the
screen and $80 for the back. Got it back in less than a week and is it
nice and smooth, now. Just my $.02.
Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001
"0nceinalifetime" 0nceinalifetime@excite.com wrote
I'm sure there are many places you could send your lens, but KEH, in
Atlanta, (www.keh.com) will completely overhaul most Hasselblad lenses for
$135 (and that includes return postage).
-Mike
Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001
I think Brad Sherman (bladfixer@aol.com) only charges about $28 for this
repair.
-Mike
...
Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001
db1 >" dvdbrm1@yahoo.com wrote
I've used Brad to install an Intenscreen in my 500C and to completely
overhaul 2 backs. In both instances I got quotes from Hasselblad USA
before calling Brad and found that his prices were 50-60% of theirs. It
is my understanding that he is "factory trained" (whatever that means) and
uses Hasselblad tools to make the repairs.
-Mike
From Rollei Mailing List;
I won't dispute that Marflex or Harry Fleenor have a well-earned
reputation for the quality of their work in restoration of Rollei TLR's.
If, however, you just want to restore a user camera to operating
condition, one might consider some of the second tier players in the
Rollei repair field such as Essex camera. Essex has a flat fee for most
basic repairs/tuneup of $95. Quite a bit more reasonable if it's a
Rolleicord with a sticky shutter that you'd like to get working again.
My own experience has been "alright" with Essex. I have had to return a
camera when it came back with some dust in the lens but the problem was
resolved with no quibbling or argument and they did get it right on the
second try.
From: "Brian Ellis" <bellis60@earthlink.net>
From: "M. P. Brennan" <mpbrennan@hotmail.com>
"Ryan" <rmleslie7@earthlink.net> wrote
> 1. Should I get both the camera and lens serviced and if so appoximately
I think Beattie screens are an excellent value and work wonderfully.
Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2002
From: Jim Brick jim@brick.org
To: hasselblad@kelvin.net, hasselblad@kelvin.net
Subject: Re: [HUG] 38/Biogon repair?
....
Hasselblad is running a 20% discount on repairs right now.
http://www.hasselbladusa.com/support/default.htm
Jim
[Ed. note: Mike Jenkins is a well known classic camera repairperson..]
From: "Mike" nedsnake@earthlink.net
Newsgroups: rec.photo.equipment.medium-format
Subject: Re: Newbie MF question: 4 sec. min shutter speed - not enough?
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002
While I don't doubt the failure rate of Rollei's is roughly the same as
other brands, parts costs usually run much higher for Rollei products than
for Mamiya or Bronica. My friend in Seattle who has been repairing
Rollei's such as the SL66 series for many years has suffered from sticker
shock many times when ordering parts. When looking at the cost of
comparable parts the Rollei prices are very high as opposed to Japanese. I
do understand why you own Rollei equipment, in your place I might
do the same. :)
"Joe Schimpanzi" JoeSchimpanzi@Monkeybusiness.com wrote
> Agreed. I think this thought might be why the price of a Rollei starter kit
> (body, lens, back) dropped from $4400 to $2995 in the last few months.
> Prices for accessories are steep in the US, but here in Germany, it's a
> pretty level playing field. I think this may be an indication that Rollei
> is not to blame! Also, through all the research I've been able to do (and
> I'll admit, it hasn't been a lot on the theme of repairs) the word I've
> gotten is that Rollei's do not have a bad history of failures. About the
> same as any other manufacturers. Yes, I have heard of one where the entire
> electronics died, requiring 'mother board' replacement, but I've heard that
> about Canon EOS, Nikon F5, Pentax 645, Mamiya 645, etc, etc, etc...
>
> BTW, I'm in Germany working for the US Military. So repairs are not a
> concern. Braunschweig (Rollei's home) is a three hour drive, or overnight
> by regular mail. So yes, that was a consideration. Gotenberg Sweden is a
> one day trip, and with the Swedish limited participation in the Euro world
> (they didn't adopt the Euro currency, but accept it?!?!?!), so this was also
> a consideration in my purchasing decision. Tokyo on the other hand (for
> Mamiyas and Bronicas) would be a longer trip :~)
>
> Jim
From: dickburk@ix.netcom.com (Richard Knoppow)
Newsgroups: rec.photo.equipment.large-format
Subject: Re: Source for CLAs
Date: Wed, 08 May 2002
"gk" eok3@hotmail.com wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I saw someone post a gent's name a while back who does good work on LF
>lenses, at a reasonable cost. I think he was either in Minneapolis, or
>somewhere else mid-west.
>
>If not him, does anyone know of persons in southern Cal that do good work?
>My local guy wants $75.00 to CLA my 101mm Ektar. That's about what the lens
>is worth!
>
>Thanks,
You won't find much cheaper service. Its hand work, someone can do
only so much, and the time must be charged for. Cleaning a #1
Supermatic takes as much time as a larger or more expensive shutter.
There are a few good shutter guys around but none are going to be
cheap.
You can try doing it yourself, Supermatics are not difficult to work
on. But, if the main spring has taken a set the higher speeds will be
slow and replacing the spring is the only way of geetting them back
up. The problem is that springs are not available.
For CLA try:
Fred Lustig
4790 Caughlin Pkwy #433
Reno, NV
89509
1 775 746 0111
Graflex Parts and Service
Paul Ebel
Shutter Repair
1715 778 4372
w230 Terrace Street, Box 86; Spring Valley, WI
54767.
Ken Ruth
Photography on Bald Mountain
Davenport, CA
baldmtn@pacbell.net
831-423-4465
Phone calls Wed & Thur 9-5 and Fri 9-Noon.
http://www.baldmtn.com/
Steve Grimes
http://www.skgrimes.com
All are excellent but will probably charge about the same thing.
I can probably help with cleaning the shutter yourself, e-mail me.
The 101mm Ektar is an outstanding lens and worth spending a little
on. However they do tend to sell for around the repair price.
You may also want to check your lens for internal haze. If the front
cell shows haze inside it can be cleaned pretty easily. Even a small
amount of haze can devestate contrast.
---
Richard Knoppow
Los Angeles, CA, USA.
dickburk@ix.netcom.com
From hasselblad mailing list:
Date: Wed, 22 May 2002
From: Darrell Jennings darrell_jennings@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [HUG] self timer
You don't indicate when or if you have done a CLA on
the lens. If it has never been done, you should
definitely get a CLA done and any shutter speed issues
will be fixed.
I have always used Hasselblad's repair facility in New
Jersey...very nice people, fast service. I can't
recall the cost of a CLA on an 80mm, but I would guess
about $50-$75. Their service number is
1-973-227-7681, or 1-973-227-7320. I am sure that
they could give you an estimate on a basic CLA over
the phone...obviously any real "repair" or replacement
parts would be extra.
I usually get my entire kit CLA'd every two to three
years (currently have 500CM, 500ELM, SWC, five A12
backs, and five additional lenses) total cost to CLA
everything is usually about $1,500. It is not cheap,
but ensures everything works fine and compared to what
I paid for the equipment over the years, has always
seemed like a reasonable investment for a very
mechanical beast...
From Rollei Mailing List:
Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2002
From: "Jorge M. Trevino" jtrevino@interlinea.com.mx
Subject: Re: [Rollei] Value of Grey T?
Phil,
Thanks a bunch for the insight. I've checked with a technician that services
Rolleis and he quoted me the equivalent of $50-$75 for a complete CLA if all
parts are in (for a change, one advantage of living in a 3d world country).
I plan to offer $200 and see if it goes anywhere but won't pay more than
$250.
--Jorge.
From: "Pen" bigsimes1@ntlworld.com
Newsgroups: rec.photo.equipment.medium-format
Subject: Fix or Fiddle?
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002
I recently sent a MF camera to be fixed via a local camera shop. It took two
weeks just to get an estimate then another month to fix. As far as I can see
the only item that was replaced was the lightproofing, otherwise the work
included some recalibration and the tightening of a few loose screws.
The estimate was for o240 and the final bill came in pretty close to this.
The only thing is, included with the camera (I assume a mistake by the
camera shop) was the original note from the company who fixed the camera
with the words "Total = o80" written at the bottom of the page. I would be
interested in any comments anyone would like to make on this. I intend to
ask for some kind of explanation when I next go to the camera shop to
collect some items I have ordered.
Pen
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002
From: DKFletcher@aol.com
To: hasselblad@kelvin.net
Subject: Re: RE: [HUG] Looking for wide angle
mrmuzak@swbell.net writes:
I, too saw the scratched up 40mm. Anyone have any idea what Zeiss gets for
a replacement front element?
$525.00 installed
From hasselblad mailing list:
Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002
From: Philippe Tempel ptempel2000@yahoo.com
Reply to: hasselblad@kelvin.net
To: hasselblad@kelvin.net
Subject: Re: [HUG] Kudos to Hasselblad USA Repair
--- Philippe Tempel ptempel2000@yahoo.com wrote:
> --- Godfrey DiGiorgi ramarren@bayarea.net wrote:
> > I have had nothing but excellent customer support
> > from Hasselblad USA.
> > And all on used equipment from which they haven't
> > made a dime in years.
> > Great people, makes owning a Hasselblad a
> pleasure.
>
> I'm glad to hear all the glowing reviews. I just
> stopped by last Monday to give my old 500C/M kit a
> CLA. One of the gents warned me that some of the
> older C lenses like mine could cost up to $200 to
> clean and/or fix. :-\ Not sure how much "fixing"
> was
> included in that quote... Hopefully my bill won't
> be
> too heavenly.
I just got the estimate. It's $720 for the repairs
for the entire kit (body, 2 backs, 2lenses). I also
asked them to replace the light traps on the backs
since I didn't really know when they were done last.
I guess I'll have to bite the bullet and get it done.
I'll call today for the specifics.
From: dvdbrm@yahoo.com (davidb)
Newsgroups: rec.photo.equipment.medium-format
Subject: Re: Mamiya 6 - Broken Winder
Date: 19 Jul 2003
"faneuil" dontdarespamme@nospam.net wrote
> Hey all-
>
> I have had a Mamiya 6 for 2 weeks now.. Now the frame indicator is stuck on
> "4" and when I load a roll of film, it never engages for the first frame. I
> changed batteries, pressed that "emergency release" button all to no avail.
>
> I have heard that the winder is often a problem.
> Anyone had this sort of problem.
> How much did it cost to repair?
>
> thanks
> Eric
I owned a M6 for about a week about 2 months ago and when I called
Mamiya they told it me it was $325 or so just to open it up and CLA.
This was the minimum charge. I quickly sold the camera.
From: Lambert McLaurin [pac911@skybest.com]
Sent: Mon 12/29/2003
To: hasselblad@kelvin.net
Subject: [HUG] Re: hasselblad V1 #2169 Bayonet ring
i had the front ring replaced on my 150 mm CF by KEH. It cost 150 USD
and a little change, took one week. This also included thoroughly
checking out and cleaning the lens-it had been knocked over, thus fell
from tripod height.
Pac McLaurin
From: Jeff Sumner jdos2@mindspring.com
Newsgroups: rec.photo.equipment.medium-format
Subject: Re: Tools to take with a Mamiya 7 On The Road
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003
bhilton665@aol.comedy (Bill Hilton) wrote:
> >From: Jeff Sumner jdos2@mindspring.com
>
> >Jewlers screwdriver, just in case the bloody rangefinder goes out of
> >wack for no known reason.
> >
> >Takes 10 minutes to adjust.
>
> So you were able to readjust the RF yourself? Can you explain exactly what you did?
> Mine went out on a M 7 II recently and it cost $300 to have it repaired :(
>
> Bill
$300? I'd have done it for coffee!
Firstly, I confirmed I had a problem. My 80mm and 43mm lenses both
stopped at infinity before I left, and I had to think about that because
the 150mm is a new lens (to me) and heard it focuses a "bit" beyond
infinity.
I pulled out the little plastic plug to the right of the viewfinder.
Inside are two screws. The one farther in (on the top) is the vertical
adjustment. Don't mess with it unless it's off. The raised screw is the
rangefinder. Put a lens that you know stops at infinity on the camera
and haul it over to it's farthest distance. Point the camera at a
distant object (antennas on the top of the "Fuji" billboard on the
entrance to Columbo Mall closest to Benifica stadium worked for me),
distant like a mile is good. adjust the raised screw a bit and look
through the viewfinder at what you did. Once the images are as perfect
as you can make 'em, turn the lens back and forth and check again.
Remove the lens and put it on again, and check. It should be rock solid.
I was surprised mine went out of focus. It's ridden in a motorcycle tank
bag for hundreds of miles and it never lost adjustment.
10 minutes to do the adjustment. 15 if you take your time.
Good luck!
JD
From: Raphael Bustin rafe.bustin@verizon.net
Newsgroups: rec.photo.equipment.medium-format
Subject: Re: Joy, joy, I broke another digital camera
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004
Silvio Manuel ghostmancer@the_void.org wrote:
> Mxsmanic mxsmanic@hotmail.com wrote:
>> Will an Arri actually tolerate a drop to the concrete?
My Nikon FE took a fall from about 2 feet up onto asphalt.
It survived, but only after a $150 repair.
My Mamiya 645E took a fall from about six or seven feet
onto granite (a quick-release mishap.) After shipping it
to several repair facilities, each of which declared the
camera not fixable or not worth fixing, I took the matter
into my own hands - figuring there was nothing left to lose.
Bottom line... $50 or so for the manuals, and $35 for the
parts, and the camera is as good as new, except for
a scuff on one corner.
Can't say I've had the "pleasure" of dropping either of
my digicams yet.
rafe b.
http://www.terrapinphoto.com
From: Watchman IamGregorWilB@power_of_intent.org
Newsgroups: rec.photo.equipment.medium-format
Subject: A Big chunk of Glass
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004
Its on its way, I bought a 40mm lens for my SQAI it takes a 95mm
filter, ugh. That means my Lee filter holder won't mount to the
front. and all my 4x4 filters won't cover the lens. {cuuurap}
I bought a 50mm lens a while back, and dropped it along with the
camera, myself and my cell phone in about 4 feet of wasser. Since Bronica
wanted $545 to repair the shutter I decided to get a wider angle instead.
Anyone know what a specific designation for a 95mm filter is?
From Medium Format Digest:
From: Gene Crumpler
From: "Michael J. Buchmeier" buchm@sage.scripps.edu
Reply to: buchm@scripps.edu
To: rmonagha@mail.smu.edu
Subject: Rollei Batteries
Subject: Re: the hassle of blad
From: Classicphoto@bellsouth. dot nyet (Classic Photo)
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 05:36:12 GMT
>My main question is the lenses..it came with a planar 80mm f2.8 T*, and a
>sonnar 150 f4 T*, and the shutter speeds are horrendously off, for example
>the 1 sec on the 150 takes 15 secs.....will the CLA for this type of thing
>involve parts, or just the C, the L and the A?
From: K-Mac@sff.net (Michael P. Kube-McDowell)
[1] How Do You Decide Whether to Repair or Pitch?
Date: Thu Jan 21 00:27:52 CST 1999
From: Per Ofverbeck elgenper@kurir.net
Subject: Rollei TLR service
Date: 1999-01-21
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999
From: Peter Klosky PKlosky@grpwise-east.trw.com
Subject: Re: RE: NYC Hasselblad Repair
NPC Polaroid - Mint $175
...
From: 4season 4season@boulder.net
To: hasselblad@kelvin.net
Subject: Re: hasselblad V1 #491
From: Andrew Ripley andrew.ripley@virgin.net
To: hasselblad@kelvin.net
Subject: Re: light leak
Newsgroups: rec.photo.equipment.medium-format
Subject: Re: Repair cost on slow SWC/M shutter?
Date: 29 Apr 1999
Brad Sherman-factory trained Hasselblad technician
Precision Camera Service
798 Woodlane Rd., Suite 10-128
Mount Holly, NJ 08060
Tel 609-702-8100
800-263-6599
Fax 609-702-9410
Newsgroups: rec.photo.equipment.medium-format
Subject: Re: Medium format & sports
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999
From: Fletcher Jernigan fletcher_jernigan@csi.com
Subject: Re: [Rollei] Re: Rolleiflex Vb value
From: Michael Lewin mlewin@optonline.net
To: bronica@iList.net
Subject: Re: [BRONICA] EC body repair help needed
>Hi all,
>
>I need the name(s) of reputable repair persons for my Bronica EC-TL.
>
>The camera won't fire when cocked (even with a new battery and on
>mechanical governed shutter speed).
>
>It would be nice to hear what price I can expect to pay...
>
>~Todd
From: Phil Vouers gooch@tznet.com
Subject: RE: [BRONICA] Re: EC body repair help needed
From: "Furby Kiwi" furbykiwi@yahoo.com
[1] Re: best manual backup for Nikon AF system?
Date: Sun Aug 22 22:04:52 CDT 1999
From: helenadick@worldnet.att.net
To: hasselblad@kelvin.net
Subject: Re: Hasselblad US v Hasselblad elsewhere???
> Austin,
>
> I didn't think $347 for a shutter repair by Hasselblad USA was a low price,
>nor did I think they lost money.
Peter Rosenthal
P.R. Camera Repair
111 East Aspen, #1
Flagstaff, AZ., 86001
(520)779-5263
Newsgroups: rec.photo.equipment.35mm
Subject: Re: Are Minoltas lousy cameras?
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999
> Forgive me if I am asking a dumb question 'cause I started learning
> photography only recently and happened to have picked an entry level
> SLR from Minolta, the Maxuum 400si series.
From: Peter Klosky Peter.Klosky@trw.com
Subject: Re: Hasselblad US v Hasselblad elsewhere???
> Have yet to see what Hasselblad USA does to earn the 40%.
From: "FRANKEE" redi@worldnet.att.net
[1] Mamiya 180 Super (old type ?)
Date: Fri Oct 29 21:35:10 CDT 1999
From: rwatson767@aol.com (RWatson767)
[1] Re: Kowa Lens/Shutter question
Date: Wed Dec 29 22:28:26 CST 1999
Newsgroups: rec.photo.equipment.large-format
Subject: Re: shutter repair prices?
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999
Date: 15 Dec 1999
From: h.passman@erols.com
Subject: LCD on a FA
>Hi Folks,
>The subject has come up about replacement of the LCD in a FA. I found the
>part is $36.95 from Nikon and still available. My repair shop estimated
>165.00 in labor which is probably 2 to 2.5 hours labor. Has anyone out there
>done this repair before? Is it tough? I can open a tuna can so I figure how
>hard could an FA be? Just kidding. Thanks in advance for your help. Howard
Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2000
From: "Gary N. Wood" gwood@comabi.mv.com
Subject: Re: [NIKON] Lens Fungus Repair?
>Anyone have experience in what's involved in cleaning fungus in a lens or
>TC. I have a chance to pick up a lens in good condition (other than some
>fungus) for a great price. However, I'm not sure about the cost to clean
>out the fungus or if it would be a reoccuring problem.
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000
From: Roland Smith roland@dnai.com
Subject: Re: [Rollei] CLA prices?
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000
From: curtiscr@pe.net
Subject: Re: [Rollei] CLA prices?
Curtis Croulet
Temecula, California
From: "John M. Niemann" jniemann@ivy.tec.in.us
Subject: Re: [Rollei] CLA prices?
From: Matthew Phillips mlphilli@hsc.vcu.edu
Subject: Re: [Rollei] CLA prices?
M.Phillips
From: calciua@hn.va.nec.com
Subject: Re: [Rollei] CLA prices?
From: Matthew Phillips mlphilli@hsc.vcu.edu
Subject: Re: [Rollei] CLA prices?
M.Phillips
From: Jack Casner jackinkc@earthlink.net
Subject: Re: [Rollei] CLA prices?
Kansas City, Missouri
Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000
From: "Dr. Ulrik Neupert" neupert@int.fhg.de
Subject: Re: 30mm F-Distagon Repairs
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000
From: InfinityDT@aol.com
To: hasselblad@kelvin.net
Subject: Re: 201 F Body
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000
From: Bob Poe bpoe99@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Creating a List of Camera Repair Sources
Camera Shoppe of Texas
126 W. Hopkins
San Marcos, TX 78666
(512)353-8826
David Morris, Manager
> I must put in a few good words for David Morris at
> The
> Camera Shoppe of Texas >camerare@itouch.net< David
> is
> an ex Marine who takes great pride in his craft. He
> has refoamed my Spotmatic, ($25) CLA - $50, One LX
> with a stickey mirror - $85, Another LX with mirror
> allignment problem - $85, MX with frozen shutter
> mechanism $95. Turn around has never exceeded two
> weeks. Great email keeps you updated on proceedures
> and progress.
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000
From: Eric Welch ewelch@flashcom.net
Subject: Re: Gray Market
> very inexpensive ($75 for an overhaul on an S2) compared to the long waits,
> staggering fees and less-than-satisfactory-the-first-time servicing by Leica
> USA.
Eric Welch
Carlsbad, CA
Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000
From: Peter Klosky Peter.Klosky@trw.com
Subject: repair prices
Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000
From: Wilber Jeffcoat jeffcoatphoto@sumter.net
Subject: Re: repair prices
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000
From: InfinityDT@aol.com
Subject: Re: Gray Market
From: "Mike" NEDSNAKE@email.msn.com
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000
Subject: Re: Shutter Question..help!!
> I don't know the going rate for anything over there, ( I'm in NY
> ) but out of curiosity I looked up a few here: 75mm f 2.8 are listed at
> USD $289, to $309 in exc.- exc+ condition. So what's that? UKP 180 or
> so? Your repair estimate seems way
> out of line. Hope this helps Bob Hickey
Newsgroups: rec.photo.equipment.35mm
Date: 28 Jul 2000
Subject: Re: Normal price range for CLA?
>Can anyone tell me a "normal" price range for a CLA? The cameras in
>question are a Nikon FE and a Nikon FM2N. I've gotten two separate
>quotes that differ wildly -- $30 and $150 for each camera. Just
>trying to avoid a rip-off. Thanks.
Newsgroups: rec.photo.equipment.35mm
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000
Subject: Re: Normal price range for CLA?
>>Can anyone tell me a "normal" price range for a CLA? The cameras in
>>question are a Nikon FE and a Nikon FM2N. I've gotten two separate
>>quotes that differ wildly -- $30 and $150 for each camera. Just
>>trying to avoid a rip-off. Thanks.
>
>My local guy charged $65 to CLA a Nikon FE2
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000
From: "Ernie G." eggent@eazy.net
Subject: Re: 500 ELM/ELX
From: "Bruce McLaughlin" bmclaugh@primenet.com
Newsgroups: rec.photo.equipment.medium-format
Subject: Re: Pentax 6x7 CLA Cost?
> Since the Pentax 6x7 I bought recently is about 20 to 25 years old, I
> thought I'd have a "Clean, Lube, and Adjustment" done at the local
> factory authorized service center. I also bought a Beattie Intenscreen
> and need to have it installed. When I called to ask about price, they
> told me "An overhaul on that camera costs $165, so the CLA and screen
> install should be no more than that."
>
> Sound reasonable? What do you normally pay for a CLA on MF cameras?
>
> Gotta go count my spare change...
>
> Rich
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000
From: "Robert G. Stevens" robsteve@hfx.andara.com
Subject: Re: Kinderman
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000
From: rick.zorn@hasselblad.com
To: rmonagha@post.cis.smu.edu
Subject: query about replacement front elements for T* 80mm f/2.8 planar?
-Reply
From: Rick Zorn
To: GOT84.TFS("MIME :rmonagha@post.cis.smu.edu")
Subject: query about replacement front elements for T* 80mm f/2.8
planar? -Reply
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000
From: curtiscr@pe.net
Subject: Re: [Rollei] Classic repair service.
Curtis Croulet
Temecula, California
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000
From: Mackie mackie@columbus.rr.com
Subject: Re: F2 overhaul prices?
> FWIW I send my F2 (the meter is working ok) to Nikon USA in Melville NY
> for a CLA and just got a estimate for $200 plus tax and shipping. It is
> hard to read their estimate forms but apparently they want to do more than
> a CLA on it.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Eric Maquiling em@nospin.org
I left this in from the original mesg. 'cause I thought it was funny:
> > No electrons were hurt in the making of this email.
> > DSS/DH Public Key 0x9399D2E4
Mackie
http://mackie-z.com
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000
From: playguitar4HIM@webtv.net
Subject: RE: F2 overhaul prices?
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000
From: Jim MacKenzie photojim@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Nikkormat FT2
> Hello, I have a Nikkormat FT2 that need new seals
> installed. I have seen
> the eBay Seal material kits and was wondering what
> kind of job it was ? My
> local repair service wants $65.00 +materials. Is
> this about right on the price?
Newsgroups: rec.photo.equipment.medium-format
Date: 18 Feb 2001
Subject: Re: 500C Focusing Screen Dillema
From: "M. P. Brennan" mpbrennan@hotmail.com
Newsgroups: rec.photo.equipment.medium-format
Subject: Re: just got 500 C, where do I start?
> Second, the lens doesn't focus so smoothly .. its very tight. I'd like to
> get a focusing knob for it. Where should I look for this?
From: "M. P. Brennan" mpbrennan@hotmail.com
Newsgroups: rec.photo.equipment.medium-format
Subject: Re: light leak on hassy back
> > i have an older a12 and was wondering who i should send this to, for the
> > replacement of the seals or is this something i could handle?
>
> It is up to you. You can pay a Hasselblad repair person up to $100 to
> do it, or do it yourself and spend only $12 in parts. It's an
> elementary repair that shouldn't take you longer than 15 minutes. I am
> looking forward to a response from the guy who advertises here (under
> the guise of being helpful) to justify his out-friggin-rageous prices
> for this dead-simple task.
From: "M. P. Brennan" mpbrennan@hotmail.com
Newsgroups: rec.photo.equipment.medium-format
Subject: Re: light leak on hassy back
> okay, so who has used brad sherman?
> what about sending it directly to Hasselblad USA for a CLA? any thoughts?
Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001
From: Earthmother veggie@monmouth.com
Subject: [Rollei] Re: Fix'in It Up
Newsgroups: rec.photo.equipment.large-format
Subject: Re: Linhof Master Technika CAMs
Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2001
When I called Marflex about a cam for my Technika V/210 Apo Symmar lens I
was quoted a price of $250 for everything. As I recall, "everything"
included the cam itself, the distance scale, the infinity stops, and of
course the labor involved. That was about two, maybe three, years ago.
Unless things have changed, they will ask you to send in your camera as well
as the lenses. I didn't ask about the length of time it would take.
"Jim Bancroft" <bancroft@home.com> wrote i
> Hi -
>
> I'm considering getting a Linhof Master Technika and would like to know
> what's involved, and how long it takes to get cams made for a couple of my
> current LF lenses (a 110mm and 210mm)? Also, about how much does it
cost?
>
> Thanks,
Newsgroups: rec.photo.equipment.medium-format
Subject: Re: 500c
Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2001
> how much does it cost to get them "tuned up" (and what exactly should I
> expect to get out of such service)?
KEH.com has a standard repair price on Hasselblad lenses of $135. I think
that Hassy bodies are about $100. You might do better with Brad Sherman
(bladfixer@aol.com). I have had work done by KEH and by Brad. While they
both do a good job, I have found Brad's work to be a little more thorough
and less expensive.
> 2. The focus ring on the lens seems pretty hard to turn, would servicing
> help this or should I buy a focusing handle (and which one would be best for
> my lens)?
Forcing it by using leverage from a focusing handle would be a bad idea.
I'd get the lens repaired so you can get the maximum enjoyment from it.
> 3. The first upgrade I plan on getting is a new focus screen. Is there a
> huge difference between the Acute Matte, the Acute Matte D, and the Beattie
> screens?
My opinion is that there is not a huge difference in anything but the price.
> Also, is it possible for me to change the screen myself or do I
> need it done by a repair shop (and if so does anyone know how much they
> typically charge for this)?
You absolutely should NOT do this yourself. I bought a Beattie from B&H for
my 500C for about $135 and Brad Sherman installed it for $40. It was money
well spent.
> Sorry for all the questions but I don't want to get ripped off when I talk
> to the nearest Hasselblad Repair Shop.
Hope this helps.
-Mike
From: "Wayne Sircoulomb" wsircoulomb@kscable.com>
Newsgroups: rec.photo.equipment.medium-format
Subject: Re: I really want to buy Bronica...But
Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2001
I own five Hasselblads right now and they all see some pretty heavy use.
Cameras, lenses, and backs all go in every two to three years for overhauls.
My repairman sees my cameras a lot and does an excellent job on my
maintenance. The two Bronicas I owned were for one year (I purchased them
used) and were all in the shop at least once during that period. The lenses
gave me no problems. The biggest problem was with the Bronica backs. I
even sent one back to KEH for warranty work and the repair guy told me that
I needed to trade my Bronica backs in for new ones at least once every three
years, that repairs were not always effective due to the abundance of
plastic parts. I also noticed that repair parts for the Bronicas were more
expensive than for the Hasselblads.
Wayne
"T P" please.reply@newsgroup> wrote...
> "Wayne Sircoulomb" wsircoulomb@kscable.com> wrote:
>
> > Hasselblad, of course. I have used them both and you will get great
> > pictures with either camera. But I like the Hasselblads better. And my
> > repairman agrees.
>
> If your repair man agrees, it can only be because he sees your
> Hasselblads often and makes a huge profit on Hasselblad parts!
>
> I feel sure you didn't mean to say that.
>
> ;-)
>
> --
> Best regards,
> TP
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001
Subject: Re: [HUG] Cost of overhaul of film backs
From: Peter Rosenthal petroffski@mac.com>
To: hasselblad@kelvin.net>
Charlie-
I don't have too much of an idea of what others charge except Hassy (ouch!!)
but I charge $15 for the foil and foam for the light traps and $35 for the
labor which includes removal of all old lube, cleaning, lube and adjustments
where necessary. If they don't need a new light trap the labor is $42. This
is for the 120 and 220 backs but the 70mm costs 40% more because of the more
complex mechanism with many more adjustments. The price includes a 1 year
warranty. It seems to me that any more than this and you're getting the
shaft. They're just that simple.
As far as whether or not you should bother... generally, the value is much
higher on a back that is known to work properly than a buyer beware unit.
Easier to sell as well. Unless of course, you have ready buyers for backs in
any condition. I'm told by my friends in the Hasselblad resale bidness
that the current market isn't so good right now. Just no buyers! It's great
for you that so many on this HUG are willing to take them off your hands.
g'luck
Peter
--
Peter Rosenthal
PR Camera Repair
111 E. Aspen #1
Flagstaff, AZ 86001
928 779-5263
From: "Richard S. Zimmerman " rzimmerman1@nyc.rr.com>
To: hasselblad@kelvin.net>
Subject: Re: [HUG] Hassy service
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2001
I just had the same experience. I sent on old 80MM C to Hass Madison NJ.
The result was the slow speed governor (my words) needed replacement. Cost
of bringing the lens to standard $283.
Richard Zimmerman
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Vanecek" mike@mjv.com>
To: hasselblad@kelvin.net>
Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2001
Subject: Re: [HUG] Hassy service
> I was kinda hoping to avoid shipping the 'blad across the country if I
> could help it. Naturally, you can't get better than the people who make
> the stuff, but I'm sure there are factory trained and qualified techs in
> Texas somewhere, aren't there? I've got an old 80mm C lense that's
> starting to stick a little at slow speeds - between 1 and 1/4 second -
> perhaps 1/8, but that seems to click fine there and faster. I figure
> it's time to send it in for servicing, but I don't want to be without it
> for the additional days that shipping takes, and ground in Texas by UPS
> is pretty much next day for the cost of ground...
>
> Mike
>
> John Jungkeit wrote:
>
> >My experience is simple. Send to:
> >Hasselblad USA, Service Department
> >10 Madison Road
> >Fairfield, NJ 07004
> >
> >To confirm call:
> >
> >Marryann (service rep)973-227-7320
> >marryann murphy@hasselblad.com
> >
> >John G. Jungkeit
> >
> >--- Michael Vanecek mike@mjv.com> wrote:
> >
> >>Anyone know of a decent Hassy service tech in
> >>central Texas?
> >>
> >>Mike
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001
Subject: Re: repair centers
From: Peter Rosenthal petroffski@mac.com>
To: hasselblad@kelvin.net>
A Shooter-
I hope I'm not stepping on any toes but here goes...
I've repaired Hasseys for 22 years. I do ALL the Hasselblad repairs for Jim
Kuehl, Don Chatterton (no longer selling Hasselblad I'm told), Dick Werner
and they recommend me to their customers. Feel free to contact them. I also
do work for MANY pro shooters around the country. I can give you a list if
you'd like.
I charge $78 for shutters plus $15 for spring if necessary, $85 for C, CM,
CX and $105 for EL, ELX and $52 for backs. My turnaround time is 24 hrs.
Let me know if I can help. My warranty is 1 year.
Jim Kuehl & Company
8527 University Boulevard
Des Moines, IA
515-255-0110
Dick Werner
112 South Brighton St.
Burbank, Ca., 91506
(818) 845-4667
helenadick@worldnet.att.net
http://home.att.net/~blackbird711/manual.txt
http://home.att.net/~blackbird711/manual.html
Thanks for your time.
--
Peter Rosenthal
PR Camera Repair
111 E. Aspen #1
Flagstaff, AZ 86001
928 779-5263
> From: "A Shooter" shooter@linux-info.net>
> Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001
> To: hasselblad@kelvin.net
> Subject: repair centers
>
> folks,
>
> It does look like my Hasselblad needs a tune up. Where should I send
> it? I live in Cincinnati, Ohio, USA. I would like to get the camera
> back in a timely fashion and I do not feel the need to pay Hasselblad's
> prices:)
> --
> A Shooter
From: "Art Begun" beguna@mindspring.com>
Newsgroups: rec.photo.equipment.35mm
Subject: Re: Wanted - User Leica Lenses - Scratched, Fogged, etc....
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001
I thought I would help out with some actual numbers.
I had a 50mm 1.4 Summicron 2 cam with a tiny amount of
fungus and haze at some edges. Really tiny fungus. Most
people would not know it was there. I sent it to Leitz in
NJ to add a cam and clean it. About $210 was the estimate.
It came back many weeks later with the new cam but still
looked like it was etched inside and a little unclear at
some edges. I had written in my note to Leitz to add the
cam only if the lens was cleanable. I sent it back and told
them it still looked like it wasn't clean. They called me
and said it was permanent damage of the rear most element.
They could get me a new element from Germany for about $200
and would not charge me for installation. I decided to take
a shot with it. They assured me that that was the only bad
element. A month later it came back and the fungus is
indeed gone but the edge haze must be on another element and
is still there. I've called it quits on that lens. I guess
I could send it back and complain but I've kind of lost my
enthusiasm for the experiment.
"Robert Monaghan" rmonagha@smu.edu> wrote
>
> if fogged, they can be readily cleaned,
>
> if fungus'd, they may have damaged glass and coatings, and may require
> refiguring of the glass, but if just on surface, repair coatings if any
> damaged, or just clean it off, again just cleaning is cheap ($50/lens..)
>
> if scratched, may require refiguring and/or recoating etc. - can be cheap
> if a replacement element is available from mfger (often $100 for an
> element, but only modest labor cost to install, can vary "" a lot though)
>
> refiguring costs vary with lens, number of elements etc., but we're
> talking hundreds of bucks, and no guarantee that the resulting lens will
> work like an original. Even polishing and recoating a lens can cost $150
> for one surface. Few places can refigure a lens accurately, and that's
> serious money, usually more than the cost of most lenses. Possibly worth
> it for a Hologon or other pricey lens, but not for most lenses...
>
> see prices at http://medfmt.8k.com/bronrecoatings.html
From: "Gary Todoroff" datamaster@humboldt1.com>
To: hasselblad@kelvin.net>
Subject: Re: [HUG] 500EL Deal?
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002
My spare ELM sounds like a meat grinder, so I only use it occasionally for
out-the-window shots from the airplane when doing aerial shots with the main
camera (another ELM) in the vertical mount. The airplane is too noisy to
hear the worn ELM grinding away, so I can pretend that it works just fine. A
couple years ago, repair cost was estimated at about $600 (new motor, side
plate, etc), more than the value of a used ELM. But it just keeps on
working.
It is definitely not the camera for quiet wildlife shots, Peter's
"rattling/whirring noise" being a bit of an understatement!
Regards,
Gary Todoroff
> This is a great deal! There are some things you should ask about tho.The
> motor bushings on this camera can tend to wear out over the decades. As
> they get worn they can make a tremendous amount of noise. It's kind of a
> rattling/whirring noise
> Peter Rosenthal
> PR Camera Repair
From: Neil@nemesis.nu (Neil Barker)
Newsgroups: uk.rec.photo.misc
Subject: Re: How important is the 'lens hood'.
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001
Jon Weaver jon.p.weaver@alcatel.com> writes:
>
> Protection isn't a real issue as I have put 'Skylight' filters on both
> lens to give them permenant protection.
Ever seen the damage a smashed skylight filter can do to a lens surface ?
I banged my Nikon 35-70mm F2.8 D against a staircase once, by accident -
shattered the filter and in doing so, scratched the lens surface. Cost
about 100 quid for the front element to be replaced.
--
Neil Barker
From: thearea19@aol.com (Thearea19)
Newsgroups: rec.photo.equipment.medium-format
Date: 22 Sep 2001
Subject: Re: Shutters for Bronica SQ-Ai
and by the way, replacing these shutters are costly, last time around it went for $240 in my 80 mm Bronica lens.
mike
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002
Subject: Re: [HUG] conversion of F lenses
From: george day geod@sbcglobal.net>
To: hasselblad@kelvin.net>
Ouch, pricey. Seems like a better bet is selling and then just buying a
new, warrantied lens and calling it good.
"DentKimTerry@cs.com" DentKimTerry@cs.com> wrote:
> An F lens can be upgraded to FE status if the lens mount is fastened with
> Phillips or cross point screws. Hasselblad USA charged about $500 to upgrade
> one for me about 3 years ago.
From: "kmh" kmhphoto@hotmail.com>
Newsgroups: rec.photo.equipment.medium-format
Subject: Re: Contax 645 Problems
Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001
If you talk to them nicely they will turn things around in about three days.
I sent them a 645 body that had a damaged shutter, they replaced it along
with repairing the PC socket. It was sent from LA on Thursday and I was
shooting with it again on the following Tuesday !
The repair was only $500.00 whereas here in the UK I was quoted $970.00 !
Kevin
[Ed. note: I don't have any experience with David's work, just passing on this info/email:]
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002
From: "David S. Odess" hblad1@attbi.com
To: rmonagha@post.cis.smu.edu
Subject: Hasselblad repair service
Dear Hasselblad owner,
My name is David S. Odess, and I would like to acquaint you to the
advantages I have to offer you as a factory trained Hasselblad
technician. I am the only full-time factory trained Hasselblad
technician in Massachusetts devoted exclusively to the repair of the
Hasselblad system. I have twenty-seven years experience, including five
years with Braun North America and the Victor Hasselblad, Inc. factory
service center in Fairfield, New Jersey. A copy of my diploma from the
Victor Hasselblad factory in Sweden will be furnished upon request. I
have the proper factory training, experience, factory tools and genuine
Hasselblad parts to provide you with the quality, timely and honest
repair service that you expect and deserve.
Repair prices are as follows:
500 C, C/M 125.00
501 C, CM 125.00
503 CX, Cxi 175.00
503 CW 175.00
SWC, C/M 195.00
903 SWC 195.00
500 EL, EL/M 195.00
500 ELX 195.00
503 ELX 195.00
553 ELX 195.00
Lenses 125.00
FLE lenses 175.00
Magazines 70.00
Magazine 70 90.00
Prices quoted are for complete cleaning, lubrication and adjustment of
equipment to factory specifications. Parts, if needed, are additional.
Estimates, for which there is never a charge, will be given for damaged
equipment, when extensive parts are needed, or when requested.
Repaired equipment will be returned insured via UPS ground service
unless another method of shipment is requested, and shipping and
insurance charges will be added to the repair invoice. In-shop time for
most repairs not requiring an estimate is normally five to seven
business days, and all repairs are guaranteed for six months.
I also purchase and sell used Hasselblad equipment. All the equipment
that I sell has been overhauled and is guaranteed for six months.
I would sincerely welcome the opportunity to be of service to you, and
thank you in advance for your consideration.
Sincerely,
David S. Odess
28 South Main Street #104
Randolph, MA 02368
(781) 963-1166
HBLAD1@attbi.com