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I'm a fiction editor for Strange Horizons, an online speculative fiction magazine. I'm also an occasional writer.

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Message 472163 by Clyde on 2005-11-06 03:48:16. Feedback: 0
I write about all sorts...I create the character, and if things go well they tend to find their own voice in most of my work. Be they male, female, straight, or gay, or other.

Clyde
Message 448650 by Melissa Mead on 2004-10-02 10:35:14. Feedback: 0
Re: 444483

Most of my recent protagonists have been male. This wasn't the case a few years ago, and I'm unsure as to the reason for the switch.
Message 448637 by ET on 2004-10-02 05:40:25. Feedback: 0
I decided to re-upload the original site (which was never made public). These guidelines would probably have gotten at least an honourable mention if I'd have sent them to Neverary, but they're completely serious (well, not completely, but they were meant as real guidelines, anyway).

(And damn, it looks like MyDomain has added ads to their "stealth forwarding". Damn them.)
Message 448636 by ET on 2004-10-02 05:20:51. Feedback: 0
I enjoyed your entries in the Neverary guidelines contest. The SlothFantastic guidelines, though, are curiously close to guidelines for an e-zine I thought of opening at one point. Except I wasn't going to pay anything. And okay, so I wouldn't phrase anything exactly like that. But still...
Message 444483 by Seán on 2004-08-16 10:05:00. Feedback: 0
Sorry - to continue that thread. Do any hetrosexual men here find they like writing about gay people or women (or both)? Or vice versa - i.e. a social group you don't belong to.

~ SP
Message 444470 by Seán on 2004-08-16 09:09:00. Feedback: 0
Hi, Jed.

I like the article a lot.

I was thinking about similar things in fantasy (I may be wrong about though), and partly for that reason wrote you the story I sent you at SH, Mensis Dance, which plays with gender somewhat. (Remember, uh, I'm the one that couldn't format it to save my life. Did it ever get to you in a readable state?)

One thing that interested me particularly in the article was the reference to Le Guin. Do you think, perhaps, that women write more sexually/gender-wise diverse characters? I'm no sci-fi expert, but the popular perception *is* that the genre's a very masculine territory, much like comicbooks are (sadly). Perhaps the reason lies here? Just a thought.

All the best,

~ Seán Padraic.
Message 439329 by Tempest on 2004-06-05 17:49:27. Feedback: 0
Hmmm.... party in Jed's topic!
Message 439328 by Aleta Daknis on 2004-06-05 17:27:40. Feedback: 0
Hey, Jed,

I'm sorry for the belated reply. I'm having some computer trouble that's not related to the server gremlins at Abyss & Apex. :-) I wasn't able to reply to your message directly via e-mail, so I thought I'd come here.

I didn't know if you wanted your question to me and my reply to remain private. If so, feel free to e-mail me personally again at aleta@klio.net and give me your personal e-mail.

Thanks,
Aleta.
Message 16311 by Mikal Trimm on 2003-06-14 18:23:44. Feedback: 0
Jed--

You asked about the formatting problems I had with my SH sub, so I figured I'd answer you here, rather than clutter your sub box with it.

Basically, I'm a big doofus and I forgot to hit 'Select All' before I tried to do the changes.

Doh!

(Well, at least it looked okay on your end...)
Message 16310 by Mystery Guest on 2003-06-09 07:31:11. Feedback: 0
You really should, Leah. WisCon was so, so wonderful. Sarah and Deanna and I all felt the same way after it was over: that this con would be one we would be going to every year until we died or it did.

Tempest
Message 16309 by Mystery Guest on 2003-06-08 14:13:31. Feedback: 0
Wiscon in general sounds fascinating. Considering what everyone's been saying about it, I think I might try to make it there next year.

Leah Bobet
Message 16308 by Mystery Guest on 2003-06-08 13:49:05. Feedback: 0
Ditto, Jed. *Very* good essay. The Wiscon panel discussed in another thread sounded fascinating, too.

law

Lori
Message 16307 by Jed Hartman on 2003-06-07 14:21:18. Feedback: 0
Thanks, Ruth! (On the off chance that anyone hasn't seen it and is interested, Ruth's talking about my latest editorial at SH.) There's been some further discussion in various places, btw; some on the SH forum, some (for example) in David Moles's journal. I encourage people to participate in such discussions; I think this stuff is important to talk about.
Message 16306 by Ruth Nestvold on 2003-06-06 18:26:38. Feedback: 0
Cool essay on lack of imagination in gender issues, Jed. :-)

Ruth
Message 16305 by Mystery Guest on 2003-05-15 18:55:09. Feedback: 0
Jamie, I know what you mean!

TKF
Message 16304 by Jamie Rosen on 2003-05-15 18:49:06. Feedback: 0
Ditto. I don't think I've ever sent anything uncomfy to SH, but if I have, I'd love to see it discussed in a public forum. I'm egotistical that way. :)
Message 16303 by Mystery Guest on 2003-05-15 18:00:18. Feedback: 0
Jed, I know it's a stretch given the number of submissions you get, but I'm finding this discussion interesting. If either of the stories you mention were mine, you have my permission to discuss it here.

A long shot, I know, especially since you didn't even say if you accepted the stories or no, but hey.

Greg

Greg Beatty
Message 16302 by Mystery Guest on 2003-05-15 17:50:56. Feedback: 0
Yeah, I can see where there are stories that make you uncomfortable and those that make you Uncomfortable.

We had one story, I think it was in the August 02 issue of Peridot, that made me really, really uncomfortable. The title escapes me, but it was about a guy who dies in a car accident that could have killed his child, too, but didn't. So he gets sent to this very specific kind of hell which allowed him to see his son under specific circumstances, but only for a short time. and in the end his son (who is only 4, IIRC) says he's not staying to talk to him any more because he has to go be with his mommy, who is still alive. basically the toddler equivalent of "I have to live for the now."

I have obviously not done justice to this story in my explanation, but I can tell you both the senior editor and I were very uncomfortable when reading the story. It pushed just the right buttons in us, (especially him, he's a father) but I argued for it because I felt that it was a great story because it pushed those buttons so well. Only amazing writing could really get across the power of that premise. Only a good writer could make us feel so very uncomfy. And I felt we had to publish it for that reason.

And there are, of course, some trigger things with me that cause me to reject a story right off. Things that make me uncomfy usually because the author doesn't handle them very well. We seem to get an inordinate amount of stories that start off with someone being brutally raped and/or killed for no real reason except raping and death are "horrific" and therefore must be "horror." That's an almost automatic rejection with me right there. the author has to do something REALLY spectacular to get me past that squick.

Tempest
Message 16301 by Jed Hartman on 2003-05-14 19:04:37. Feedback: 0
Lori 177: I didn't know the name Neil LaBute, so I went and looked it up. I heard so many bad things about In the Company of Men that I avoided seeing it; but yeah, from what I've heard about it, it sounds a lot like the kind of "relentlessly unpleasant" I was talking about in 173, the sort of thing that makes me want to wash my brain afterward to get the slime off. Possession sounded potentially interesting, though. (I like the little Byatt I've read.)
Message 16300 by Jed Hartman on 2003-05-14 18:57:17. Feedback: 0
Jae 174: Yeah, just call it "Love Letter to a Dingbat."

re s1ngularity: I had the impression that they're particularly interested in hard-hitting stuff that -- well, their slogan is "S1ngularity is the literary equivalent of a heroin spike in the eye," so I was more or less riffing on that. But now that I look at their guidelines, they look a little less extreme than I'd thought -- they seem to be aiming for literary and unusual, but not necessarily gonzo over-the-top.

eBear 176: I guess I'd say there are a variety of different kinds of stories on "issues that I really would rather not think about." There are certainly stories that explore Difficult Issues in ways that I like; I'd probably label those "disturbing, but in a good way." Or sometimes "creepy, but in a good way." (I get a lot of mileage out of that "in a good way" phrase these days.) "Omelas" and Connie Willis's "All My Darling Daughters" are, as you noted, excellent examples: very disturbing, perhaps even very distressing to read, but powerful and vivid and intense and well-written and fearlessly staring Difficult Issues in the eye. I like to think I'd be happy to publish stories like that. But there are others where I find some major aspect too uncomfortable even though the story is well-presented and internally consistent; stuff where (for example) I'm squicked even though I feel like I shouldn't be. Some editors have trigger issues -- won't consider child-molester stories, won't consider cannibalism stories, whatever. I have very few of those, and the ones I have don't seem to be subject to easy description, but I do seem to have them.

(One difficulty I'm having is that there were two stories submitted to us, by two different authors, that came to mind as soon as the subject of "uncomfortable" stories came up, but I shouldn't talk about specific submissions in a public forum, and I'm not even sure I could articulate my reactions if I did. Unfortunately, because those two are prominent in my thoughts, I'm having a hard time coming up with other examples from which I might be able to generalize.)
Message 16299 by Mystery Guest on 2003-05-13 14:36:25. Feedback: 0
Like Neil LaBute movies, Jed?

Lori
Message 16298 by Elizabeth Bear on 2003-05-13 13:37:54. Feedback: 0

New Dangerous Visionses (Visionii?)--

--I don't think the world needs one.

Jed, I understand now. When I say I'm looking for stories that make me uncomfortable, I mean stories that look squarely (and non-simplistically) at issues that I really would rather not think about.

We have a story up now on what motivates terrorism: Leah and I talked about it seriously before we accepted it, given the current political climate--but it wasn't simplistic, and it wasn't moralistic. It was just strong, and a little controversial, and I thought it worked really well.

On the other hand, we don't take horror. But then, I don't find goriness particularly transgressive in the post-Texas-Chainsaw-Massacre world.

Or the post Vietnam war world.

Or the post Zapruder tape world.

Which is why, I guess, I don't see us needing a new Dangerous Visions. On the other hand, if somebody sent me a story like "I Have no Mouth and I Must Scream" or "The Shark," would I publish it? Would I buy "The Silken-Swift" or "The Ones Who Walk Away From Omelas" or the Connie Willis story about the sex ferrets, the title of which eludes meat the moment? (To name a few stories that made me very uncomfortable, for various reason--)

Not only yes, but Hell, yes.

I think there's a place for stories like that. Still, always.
Message 16297 by Jamie Rosen on 2003-05-13 12:37:24. Feedback: 0
Jed, looking at the wide variety of "new Dangerous Visions"es out there (Redshift, Semiotext(e) SF, and so on), I think not doing one may almost make SH stand out.
Message 16296 by Mystery Guest on 2003-05-13 12:35:59. Feedback: 0
So if I wrote a concise love letter to you in say, Zapf Dingbats, would that work? ;-D

Seriously, I'm interested by the last line of your post. What exactly do you mean by that?

Jae
Message 16295 by Jed Hartman on 2003-05-13 12:17:49. Feedback: 0
Yeah, Tempest got it. The real problem with those is that I don't read Wingdings real well. And they make me jealous 'cause they're not love letters to me. Also, the rambling gets to me -- note to authors: if you're going to write love letters to an editor, do it concisely.

("Editors do it concisely"? ...Never mind.)

Ahem.

There are a lot of things in stories that make me uncomfortable but that are also not good writing, such as simplistic and heavy-handed approaches to political issues (from any side). But the difficult stories are the ones that are well-written but still make me too uncomfortable. The common factor there is hard to get a handle on, but I think in my head it revolves around the word "unpleasant." Or the phrase "relentlessly unpleasant." Sometimes a story just goes a little too far.

...I don't think I'm going to be able to be much clearer than that -- I wrote most of the above on Friday and then set it aside to try to address the question more clearly but it's not working. All I can say is it's a personal gut reaction, and it doesn't happen very often. (And because it's a personal reaction, I usually explain the situation to my co-editors and give them more of a chance than usual to look at the story in question before I reject it, in case they think it's brilliant.)

Sorry if I've said this before: very early on when we were planning the magazine, someone said we should do a Dangerous Visions for the new millennium. It sounded great until we stopped and thought about it, and realized that if a story was so transgressive as to constitute a modern Dangerous Vision, chances were we'd be too uncomfortable with it to publish it. So I guess I'm a literary conservative after all, at least to some degree.

Hmm, I should probably also recommend that authors of really transgressive submissions try s1ngularity; they're all about that.
Message 16294 by Jamie Rosen on 2003-05-09 23:59:25. Feedback: 0
I thought the love letter was the query...
Message 16293 by Celia Marsh on 2003-05-09 19:22:20. Feedback: 0
Silly tempest! You're supposed to query love letters first.
Message 16292 by Mystery Guest on 2003-05-09 02:34:21. Feedback: 0
I bet I know! When at about page 5 the story suddenly stops and is replaced by a rambling love letter for Susan that goes on for 20 pages. In Wingdings.

Tempest
Message 16291 by Elizabeth Bear on 2003-05-08 16:31:02. Feedback: 0

So, Jed, just out of curiousity--

--what sort of thing is it in a story that makes you uncomfortable publishing it?
Message 16290 by Mystery Guest on 2003-04-07 19:41:02. Feedback: 0
but he's crytic in a good way ...

chance
Message 16289 by Mystery Guest on 2003-04-07 17:32:16. Feedback: 0
jed is always being cryptic. silly man.

tempest
Message 16288 by Ruth Nestvold on 2003-04-06 17:34:33. Feedback: 0
So I just don't know where to look. :-) Thanks, chance!

Message 16287 by Mystery Guest on 2003-04-06 10:43:36. Feedback: 0
Ruth,

you need to read Jed's journal. Also, Susan had a few less cryptic words about us.

cheers,

chance

chance
Message 16286 by Ruth Nestvold on 2003-04-06 08:31:16. Feedback: 0
Hm. Doesn't look like Jed's noticed anything yet ... and it's already been almost a week ...

Anyone want to take any bets on when he figures out what we did to him?

Ruth
Message 16285 by Mystery Guest on 2003-04-01 16:47:41. Feedback: 0
::Hal the hamster runs on stage::

::holds up idiot card::

SILLY IN A GOOD WAY

::runs offstage::

Kat Allen
Message 16284 by Mystery Guest on 2003-04-01 13:58:03. Feedback: 0
::clears throat::

Hoooooooooooooooooorns!

thank you and good night.

tempest
Message 16283 by Jae Brim on 2003-03-18 09:23:48. Feedback: 0
Me too! Though I'm sure Tempest could kick my butt in a second.

re #158 A Virgin Unicorn would taste yummy.
Message 16282 by Mystery Guest on 2003-03-18 06:40:13. Feedback: 0
oooo fondue wrstling! I'm totally up for that. What do you want for your birthday, Jed?

Tempest
Message 16281 by Mystery Guest on 2003-03-17 12:02:08. Feedback: 0
Just in case folks don't read Jed's blog -- eleven more days until his birthday. Shall we have a huge celebration here? Some fondue wrestling? Rows of topless dancing unicorns?

Beth
Message 16280 by Elizabeth Bear on 2003-03-17 11:18:27. Feedback: 0

Zombie Unicorn: Three kinds of rum, pineapple juice, and a twist of orange with a sprinkle of alicorn

Virgin Unicorn: Substitute marascino cherries for orange, above.

(I mean, really, Jed. That was a slowball pitch if ever I saw one.)

Message 16279 by Mystery Guest on 2003-03-16 23:04:22. Feedback: 0
Hey, Jed.

In reading your blog, I saw your question about accelerated growth: as far as I know, such a thing isn't really possible. Then again, you may want to consult someone with a higher degree in that particular field.

stella
Message 16278 by Mystery Guest on 2003-03-14 17:41:02. Feedback: 0
Oh the silly French fries business. And here I spent most of my day on bretagneworld.org and bretons.org.

Demat, mes kamarads!

Question -- if we are to have such oddities as freedom fries, does it follow that we have free-range unicorns? Or have I spent too much time on the internet today?



Beth
Message 16277 by Jed Hartman on 2003-03-14 15:04:43. Feedback: 0
Yeah, I was tickled by one of the news articles about the ridiculous "freedom fries" business; somewhere around paragraph 12 of the article, it mentioned in an aside that the French government had declined to comment, though the French embassy did note that French fries came from Belgium.

Meanwhile, I think it was Jon Carroll (world's greatest columnist) who mentioned the importance of "French letters" (to tie in with Beth's comments about the Trojans). Freedom letters, anyone? It's almost like a feminine hygiene product....

Also, one hopes that New Orleans will rename a famous part of town the "Freedom Quarter."

Has anyone yet noted that Zombie Unicorn sounds like the name of a drink? I'll leave it as an exercise to the reader to explain the difference between a Virgin Zombie (like a reanimated Shirley Temple) and a Zombie Unicorn.
Message 16276 by Elizabeth Bear on 2003-03-14 14:21:05. Feedback: 0

Re: Freedom Anything

Sorry, but anything called a "freedom anything" sounds like a feminine hygeine product to me.

Somewhere in France, there are a lot of French people laughing over the fact that the Belgians invented lost bread, anyway.

And now I'm wondering what lost bread has to do with the Lost Boys. And... nevermind.

Hey, anybody using that Zombie Unicorn in the corner? Looks like it would make a good beanbag chair.
Message 16275 by Mystery Guest on 2003-03-14 14:19:38. Feedback: 0
The CamelotVSD link works. Very funny.

Go ahead and spread the freedom kiss around. Jesse will be thrilled if he starts a national trend. ;-)

Jae
Message 16274 by Jed Hartman on 2003-03-13 18:10:42. Feedback: 0
Mary Anne's site is almost entirely plain-vanilla HTML, with text and images -- no Java, almost no JavaScript, no fancy coding and very little fancy layout. So I'd be surprised if the firewall's balking at anything code-related. Her journal does use PHP, but the pages returned to the browser should be ordinary HTML.... But maybe the firewall doesn't like pages whose names end with ".php"?

Anyway, as of this morning, the Camelot VSD project has a new URL all its own: http://www.camelotvsd.com/. See if that works better.

Btw, I like the "freedom kiss" line. Will Jesse mind if we spread the meme?
Message 16273 by Mystery Guest on 2003-03-13 13:41:24. Feedback: 0
It's a proxy server at work, and it often blocks sites because it has some sort of active Java or other coding it doesn't like. I'll have to try from home. I'm a King Arthur geek, so this is too much fun.

Lori - that sounds like an interesting idea...go for it!

Jae
Message 16272 by Mystery Guest on 2003-03-12 15:48:29. Feedback: 0
So now I have to write a story with klickstones and freedom kisses in it. Wish me luck.

Lori
Message 16271 by Jed Hartman on 2003-03-12 15:25:31. Feedback: 0
Yep, feel free to use klickstones. Klickstones for everyone! Just don't confuse 'em with Beth's bonbons. (Crunchy!)

Don't know why firewall would be blocking Mary Anne's site, unless your firewall is using some sort of pr0n/adult-material filter; she does have smut on her site. What sort of firewall is it? (Work, ISP, something else?) Can you ask the sysadmin?
Message 16270 by Mystery Guest on 2003-03-12 10:56:02. Feedback: 0
My firewall is blocking Mary Anne's site for some reason. Any idea why?

Jae
Message 16269 by Mystery Guest on 2003-03-11 15:45:53. Feedback: 0
Klickstones. That's great. Mind if I use it?

law

Lori
Message 16268 by Jed Hartman on 2003-03-11 15:32:07. Feedback: 0
Mary Anne has taken on coordination of the Camelot VSD project. See her journal (and subsequent entries) to follow along as they come in, or go directly to the Camelot VSD page to see all the characters. Drop Mary Anne a note if you want to be involved -- Guinevere appears to still be available, Jae!

There's a Writing Milestones topic, but no Editing Milestones topic, so I'll just note that I consider being featured in a VSD is an Editing Milestone. :) That and having a zombie unicorn named after you. I'll take my milestones where I can get 'em.

(In the future, we will all use kilometerstones instead, or klickstones for short.)
Message 16267 by Mystery Guest on 2003-03-09 18:35:03. Feedback: 0
you and your clickable links

Tempest
Message 16266 by Mystery Guest on 2003-03-09 13:20:56. Feedback: 0
sheesh! you forgot to mention jed is in the VSD.

Here's a clickable link.

chance
Message 16265 by Mystery Guest on 2003-03-09 13:17:21. Feedback: 0
Do I know anything about Camelot? No, indeed I do not. ask for something simpler! sheesh.

in the meantime, Ken has posted the Very Secret Diaries of the OWW on his blog. http://www.livejournal.com/users/kendwoods

so now you can giggle.

My own OWW VSD is coming.

Tempest
Message 16264 by Mystery Guest on 2003-03-08 15:46:29. Feedback: 0
Ooo! Can I do Guinevere?

"Broke nail. Arthur and Lancelot both ignoring me. Must arrange to be kidnapped again."

Jae
Message 16263 by Jed Hartman on 2003-03-08 13:13:49. Feedback: 0
It's been two whole days since I suggested (in my journal) that someone do some Very Secret Diaries for the Camelot gang, but thus far there have been no VSDs posted (that I've seen). Sadness!

You can find some starter ideas in the comments attached to an entry of Wendy's. Wendy may or may not be doing VSDs for Galahad-seeking-the-Grail and/or Merlin.
Message 16262 by Jed Hartman on 2003-03-05 16:33:59. Feedback: 0
Sorry for the limitation, Dan. [sotto: Mwa-ha-ha! Our clever plan to drive the readers mad is working!] If it's any comfort, I'm having a hard time narrowing down my own choices.

We considered saying "only vote for 40 items in each category," but we thought that might get a little complicated.

Voting theory is hard!

On other topics, I haven't ever been a redhead. I know someone who changes their hair color frequently; recently it's been a cool mix of some sort of a dark red with hot pink, and electric purple highlights. It works remarkably well. But that may just be because I'm a sucker for supersaturated colors. (And it's well-documented that I have no taste in colors.) (That sounds like synesthesia, doesn't it?) I've considered dyeing my hair every now and then, but it always seems like a lot of trouble.
Message 16261 by Mystery Guest on 2003-03-05 14:09:16. Feedback: 0
Jae, it's hard for me to imagine something that *wouldn't* look good on you.

law

Lori
Message 16260 by Mystery Guest on 2003-03-05 11:50:05. Feedback: 0

This seems to be the right place to say:

Jed, you're killing me with this "only vote for three" business. Couldn't you make it something like "vote for up to half of the candidates"?

*grumble* consistently high quality of publications *grumble*



Dan Percival
Message 16259 by Mystery Guest on 2003-03-05 09:53:21. Feedback: 0
A black T-Shirt that's been washed that many times is no longer black. ;-)

I've been a redhead many times, and black always looked good on me.

Jae
Message 16258 by Mystery Guest on 2003-03-05 09:46:45. Feedback: 0
I was a redhead once, and I had purple eyes. Looked good on me ;)

Tempest
Message 16257 by Mystery Guest on 2003-03-04 14:21:14. Feedback: 0
> She also thought that black was too old a color for me :)

Well, a black T-shirt that's been through the washer weekly for, say, six or seven years does start looking pretty venerable. A frisky black, on the other hand, has a certain je ne sais quoi* when paired with the typical redhead's pallor.

*"Tubercular appeal," perhaps. :)

Tracina
Message 16256 by Mystery Guest on 2003-02-28 10:59:48. Feedback: 0
My grandmother always wanted me to wear purple. The thought still makes me wince. She also thought that black was too old a color for me :)
Tempest has a good point there...

erin
Message 16255 by Mystery Guest on 2003-02-27 01:03:45. Feedback: 0
I dunno. I'm a redhead by choice and I still like purple and orange. But then I have no taste.

law

Lori
Message 16254 by Mystery Guest on 2003-02-26 20:41:11. Feedback: 0
but Erin, think about it. If she didn't want people to think it was her, she would choose colors that clash! she didn't paint that bathroom to make it look GOOD. My gosh, then what would be the point?

Tempest
Message 16253 by Celia Marsh on 2003-02-26 20:30:12. Feedback: 0
I did too! I said "as if," which any good teacher should know means "not in a million years."
Message 16252 by erin on 2003-02-26 19:02:14. Feedback: 0
I don't know...I have to concur on the redhead nyets orange and purple thing...
Message 16251 by Mystery Guest on 2003-02-26 17:04:42. Feedback: 0
Celia? Did you notice you didn't actually deny it, either? You just pointed your finger (with traces of orange and purple under the nails, mind you) at everyone else.

:P



Marsha
Message 16250 by Celia Marsh on 2003-02-26 16:41:58. Feedback: 0
Hmm. Notice how she doesn't actually *deny* the accusation, just complains about the names used.
Message 16249 by Mystery Guest on 2003-02-26 15:25:35. Feedback: 0
Moi?! T'accuses moi?! As IF. Orange, indeed! Pumpkin, *possibly,* or *maybe* terracotta, but *not* orange. Particularly not one of the cadmiums. And that purple is definitely a pthalo mix, and muddy to boot. (sniffs disdainfully)

Tracina
Message 16248 by Mystery Guest on 2003-02-25 19:57:48. Feedback: 0
>>*rigs the quiz so Tempest can't get China, and always
>>ends up with the comic store guy from the Simpsons.*

Ooooo, that's nasty.

Lori
Message 16247 by Celia Marsh on 2003-02-25 16:54:09. Feedback: 0
J'accuse! It was Tracina! It was Marsha! Or Lori! Everyone knows redheads can't stand purple and orange. I was set up! You all hate me!

Did it ever occurr to anyone that maybe Jed had decorated the bathroom himself? Maybe he's just being quiet about it now cause he's embarrassed you all found out.

*sulks*

*rigs the quiz so Tempest can't get China, and always ends up with the comic store guy from the Simpsons.*
*rigs Leah's room so the doorbell says 'Oh, Chairman Mao'*
Message 16246 by Mystery Guest on 2003-02-25 16:39:30. Feedback: 0
I would like to bring new evidence to the tribunal.

*drops a stack of orange-and-purple boy band magazines on the table*

These were found on the bookshelf in the bathroom. Considering Celia's prior decorating track record, I think we can safely say that it was in fact her on the night in question.

Bailiff?

Leah Bobet
Message 16245 by Celia Marsh on 2003-02-25 11:10:44. Feedback: 0
As if. I don't believe in orange and purple. It's one of my commandments: "Thou shall have no colors that clash with me." Maybe's it's Leah in a Celia mask, to get me back for her room.
Message 16244 by Mystery Guest on 2003-02-25 10:56:32. Feedback: 0
Finally caught up. First of all, If I had had a hand in decorating this place mirrors would certainly *not* be involved. Velvet only in moderation. and no orange! sheesh.

If it were me, I would make everything very dark. Not pitch black, just kind of a smoky gray so that you could sort of see where you were going on the way to the comfy couches where other people are waiting for... well, anyway...

Tempest
Message 16243 by Mystery Guest on 2003-02-25 10:47:19. Feedback: 0
hey hey HEY! Now look, that is NOT me ::pulls fake Kim over and takes the mask off:: it's Celia! CI LEE AH She's impersonating me! I haven't even been here for days. Certainly not in that bathroom. ew...

Tempest
Message 16242 by Mystery Guest on 2003-02-25 00:34:03. Feedback: 0
No, Charlie, I would not skip the nuts.

Make of that what you will.

Lori
Message 16241 by Mystery Guest on 2003-02-24 23:27:42. Feedback: 0
::Dashes upstairs to check out Jed's redecorated bathroom.::

[awed whisper]Ohmy.[/awed whisper]

Kim, dear? Orange and purple? You couldn't make up your mind? No, no, dear. Don't cry and carry on. I'm sure you were... um... momentarily overcome by the amount of sugar wafting through Jed's topic.

*Psst, Jed! Here! I gave myself the honor of removing the lightbulb. I don't think you'll be needing it. And you might want to take out that other one on the landing, too.*

::pats Kim on the back::

As for you, Celia, she had the mastiff fixed before you moved out then?

:P

(There. Two children with one blow. Go me. ;)





Marsha
Message 16240 by Celia Marsh on 2003-02-24 19:28:37. Feedback: 0
I think we already have more than enough nuts around here. (which is what my mother said right before she had the mastiff fixed.)
Message 16239 by Mystery Guest on 2003-02-24 19:19:24. Feedback: 0
What, Lori? You'd skip the nuts?


Charlie Finlay
Message 16238 by Mystery Guest on 2003-02-24 19:06:23. Feedback: 0
Mmmmmm, baklava. Can we just cut straight to the honey?

Lori
Message 16237 by Mystery Guest on 2003-02-24 16:34:24. Feedback: 0
Well, such is life when your topic won't list on the front page. *sigh, pout, angst*

Leah Bobet
Message 16236 by Mystery Guest on 2003-02-24 16:23:25. Feedback: 0
Just checked out the boy band room. Was dreadfully disappointed at first, but then discovered that the coversation was ever so much better than it usually is at such events. :)


Tracina
Message 16235 by Mystery Guest on 2003-02-24 16:16:29. Feedback: 0
*points shaking finger at Celia*

You.

Forward the hordes of pudding-cup archers! Fire the pie catapults! Destroy that woman!

Leah Bobet
Message 16234 by Mystery Guest on 2003-02-24 16:16:24. Feedback: 0
"I forgot to say, shouldn't Tempest get to decorate this week as a reward for getting into Clarion?"

Jed, maybe you'd better check out the upstairs bathroom before you say that. Just a suggestion.

Tracina
Message 16233 by Jed Hartman on 2003-02-24 16:13:26. Feedback: 0
Oh, and one more thing: I forgot to say, shouldn't Tempest get to decorate this week as a reward for getting into Clarion? Everyone should stop by her topic and congratulate her.
Message 16232 by Celia Marsh on 2003-02-24 16:13:21. Feedback: 0
"is it better to be covered in a dessert that you do like or one that you don't like but others do like?"

Well, if you're trying to lose weight, it would remove the temptation to snack, yet still keep others amused. Ultimately, though, I'd say it depends on if you're hungry.

And of course, we do already have a boy band room, but there's always room for another.
Message 16231 by Mystery Guest on 2003-02-24 16:10:23. Feedback: 0
Absolutely. I think we can get grant money for this.

Tracina
Message 16230 by Jed Hartman on 2003-02-24 16:07:58. Feedback: 0
Well, Tracina, you bring up a very interesting philosophical question: is it better to be covered in a dessert that you do like or one that you don't like but others do like?

Clearly, some field studies will be necessary.
Message 16229 by Jed Hartman on 2003-02-24 16:06:19. Feedback: 0
Boy bands: sure, bring 'em on. I haven't yet been bitten by the 'Nsync bug, but many fine people enjoy them, so feel free to put up posters. Maybe we should have a separate room for boybands, though, where the bookshelves are filled with 'Nsync fanfic?

Mirrors: Wait -- Tempest, didn't you install the specially treated earthquake-proof mirrors?

Chocolate pudding: Although I was indeed flustered (I was expecting not to have to prepare for the chocolate pudding 'til WorldCon!), I was also very amused. Good question, Lori!
Message 16228 by Mystery Guest on 2003-02-24 16:00:58. Feedback: 0
But Jed...no one was suggesting that *you* eat the tiramisu. (g)

Tracina
Message 16227 by Jed Hartman on 2003-02-24 15:59:32. Feedback: 0
The basic problem I have here is that you folks and I can't seem to agree on desserts. I am aware that my tastes don't match those of most right-thinking people, so in an effort to promote Jed Getting More Dessert, I'm going to provide a quick guide to Jed's Taste in Desserts. Note that the presence of any item on the No list as part of a dessert overrides the presence of any item on the Yes list; for example, coffee-flavored chocolate is a No. Note also that some of these items are components, while others are complete desserts.


Yes:

Chocolate in any form not prohibited by the No list
Fruit, fresh (strawberry, apple, cherry, orange)
Whipped cream
Swirls of raspberry sauce
Shortbread (how can you go wrong with butter, flour, and sugar?)
Baklava
Pies: apple, berry, pumpkin
Cakes: chocolate, carrot, cheese, lemon/poppyseed
Cobblers, crisps, and crumbles
Cookies, soft: oatmeal-raisin, peanut butter, sometimes chocolate chip
Banana bread


No:

Pudding, mousse, custard, and other soft-textured stuff
Tiramisu
Caramel
Very sweet things
Coffee flavoring
Pies: cherry, peach, lemon meringue, key lime, banana cream, rhubarb
Jell-O
Rum (and other alcohol)
Marshmallows
Cranberries
Pears, cooked


Conditional:

Ice cream (if appropriate flavors, and if weather is warm)
Tarts and tortes (if in the right mood) (and, for the former, with permission)
Bread pudding (often, but depends on implementation)
Fortune cookies (I'll usually eat them, but mostly just because they're there)
Pie, pecan (usually too sweet for me)

Message 16226 by Mystery Guest on 2003-02-24 11:08:50. Feedback: 0
Are you sure that's crushed velvet? Not . . . . mold?

:)

Cath
Message 16225 by Mystery Guest on 2003-02-24 01:47:28. Feedback: 0
I got to embarass Jed in person. At the Strange Horizons wine and cheese party, I asked him where the chocolate pudding was. He's cute when he's flustered.

law

Lori
Message 16224 by Mystery Guest on 2003-02-23 22:18:30. Feedback: 0
> You let Tempest decorate, didn't you? Crushed velvet wallpaper?

*Flocked*, even. Gracious me. Tut tut.

> Are those...are those mirrors on the ceiling?

(gasp) In *earthquake* country?! Tempest, what kind of BDSM newbie *are* you, for pity's sake?! Haven't you ever heard of Mylar?!

> What this place needs is more pictures of boy bands.

And Jed covered in tiramisu. Wait, wait -- Jed, covered in tiramisu, held aloft by 'N Sync. That would be hot. Or at least memorable. Sometimes I have trouble telling the difference.

Tracina
Message 16223 by Celia Marsh on 2003-02-23 02:23:08. Feedback: 0
*redecorates while Jed is at Potlach*

But dahling, everyone knows that chocolate pudding is *so* 10 days ago. This week, all the best places are all about Tiramisu. It shows class, dahling, and goodness knows this place needs class.

*glances around distainfully.*

You let Tempest decorate, didn't you? Crushed velvet wallpaper? Are those...are those mirrors on the ceiling? Or...just pictures of her? *writes on clipboard* What this place needs is more pictures of boy bands.

(woohoo! First post of the new century! And such a quality one, too.)
Message 16222 by Jed Hartman on 2003-02-20 17:46:27. Feedback: 0
This is message 100! (That's one hundred exclamation point, not one hundred factorial.)

Some of the pictures from Avi's party can be found in Mary Anne's journal. She didn't post the one of you and Lisa, though; I'll email that to you.

I may or may not post some of the others in my own journal at some point. Probably not, though. So little time, so much to post!
Message 16221 by Mystery Guest on 2003-02-20 07:57:24. Feedback: 0
Hey Jed - it was cool seeing you at Avi's party.

I was wondering if you could please send me that picture of Lisa Bartsch and me? That would be cool.

Are you planning on posting any of the other pictures anywhere? If not, I could post them on my page.

Frank

FrankWu
Message 16220 by Mystery Guest on 2003-02-18 14:04:00. Feedback: 0
geez, some people can take good clean pudding wrestling and turn it into something *shudder* so very wrong.

marsha - where's that pudding truck? clearly wasn't nearly deep enough.

chance

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