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Plucky Tinderbox And Radio

Okay, things have been simmering behind the scenes here, and i should have a PlucKyx review up in the next day or so. TinderBox is taking a bit more work to comprehend. Reading the manual turns out t o help a lot :-). Then there's some things i found in RadioUserland that i still have to share.

Then it's time to attend to Lanka, because i leave in two weeks.
Posted Fri Feb 22 17:39:17 2002

Why You Should Fall to Your Knees and Worship a Librarian


Posted Thu Feb 21 19:44:49 2002

Last month i wrote about Teoma, a new search engine from the Ask Jeeves people. I wondered how they chose their "expert" sites, and e-mailed. They've replied:

How expert links work: By looking at the Web from a local perspective in addition to a global perspective, Teoma locates naturally occurring clusters - or communities - to create sub-topics within a particular subject. Our advanced technology then identifies and organizes sites created by people or groups that are based on a shared interest within that sub-topic. These sites, which we identify as "Expert Links" or "Resources," feature comprehensive lists of relevant links about the query.

Lots of words, not much meaning, so i asked further.
Posted Thu Feb 21 13:53:29 2002

I knew there was something scary about these warehouse stores. Steven King's not writing any more, so this novel is free for the writing. The Chicago Sun-Times has the story.
Posted Wed Feb 20 00:21:11 2002

Hack the Planet has Peek-a-Booty and other fun links and reports from CodeCon?.
Posted Tue Feb 19 13:21:57 2002

Plucky 1.0 has been released; there are many other RssReaders, but this is the first non-web-based reader for Mac that lets you read not just headlines, but descriptions/summaries as well.

http://geoffreygrosenbach.com/plucky.html

All this cool software!

And no time yet to muck with it.
Posted Mon Feb 18 10:12:19 2002

Mark says it's out. What else is there to say! Let's check it out and tell each other what we think.

http://www.eastgate.com/Tinderbox/
Posted Mon Feb 18 10:08:45 2002

Steve Howell (Meatball:SteveHowell) is working on wiki as a basis for a PersonalInformationManager?, using wxPython to make a non-browser interface.

See Meatball:WikiAsPim
Posted Sun Feb 17 16:03:53 2002

mod_index_rss is an Apache module that returns RssFeeds, of the directories being served. (would OpMl make sense here?)

Got this from earl, try the ever-amusing BabelFish for translation if your German isn't so good: earl through Babelfish
Posted Sun Feb 17 10:57:06 2002

Dave wrote a few days ago about this, but i just read it -- Janne Jalkanen is working on using XML-RPC to exchange wiki pages -- see JSPWiki:WikiRPCInterface.

I can't keep up, but i'll keep trying...
Posted Sun Feb 17 00:54:47 2002

Okay, now that i've ranted about hierarchies, Dave did ask a good question: "I'd love to know what the user interface for creating these hierarchies looks like. Of course we do hierarchies in Manila sites, they're called directories, we edit them in an outliner, but Wikis work differently, it seems."

They do. There is no standard way for wikis to understand hierarchy. Because ZWiki is built on ZoPe, it was probably too tempting not to include it as a feature that every page when created is the child of the page that you were on when it got created.

ZWiki also has this interface to modify parenting after the fact:



Note that it allows for more than one parent. It also lets you type in new parents. So hierarchies are separate from actual BackLinks. So if i create a parent relationship does it show up as a backlink even though the child is never mentioned on the parent? (the above page comes up when you click on a "Backlinks" button on any ZWiki page)

I can't try these things out because Bill's ZWiki needs a password for some actions.

(Bill and i are talking about all this now on WebSeitz:HierarchalStructure -- come join us!)

There are dozens of different wiki implementations, so any future hierarchical standard will not necessarily look like whatever ZWiki is doing. TWiki may have some hierarchy features, i don't know. Hierarchies are one of many kinds of Meatball:IndexingSchemes.

I guess you could suck a bunch of wiki pages into a Radio hierarchy starting with one as the top item, having one content item (the text of the one page) plus many URL items (for external links) and/or page items (for internal links). Each page item would also have a content item and many URL and/or page items. Go up to X layers deep. If you hit the same page more than once, just do whatever kind of aliases/links you have in FronTier (there is something, yes?). Then you could easily spit it out as OpMl. Hm, that might make implementing some Meatball:IndexingSchemes much easier.
Posted Fri Feb 15 12:07:04 2002

"I see people doing hierarchies with Wiki's these days."

Dave Winer's talking about wikis today. ZWiki is the only wiki i know of that has built-in hierarchy (though there probably are others), and they've probably been there since ZWiki was released AFAIK. I don't know if Bill, or anyone, makes much use of it, but i've asked at Bill's WebSeitz:HierarchalStructure and may post to WikiForum. Of course one can build a hierarchy in any wiki just by naming a page's children (the BackLinks feature means you probably don't need to explicitly mention parents).

What is built-in hierarchy good for? The easy response to that is, why not have it and see? ZWiki lets you turn off any visual indication of the hierarchy. No one has to use it, no problem.

Wiki is attractive in part because it's relative structurelessness lets you apply any structure you like, and it's lack of default-on widgets and complexity and security makes it difficult to get distracted from writing. Less work and design thinking up front, more work (arguably) maintaining the system as things go along. Fortunately, many of them are so simple that they attract people to programming like bugs to honey, so individuals and communities custom-tailor their wiki code probably more than weblog users do.

So ZWiki has built-in support for organizing the pages in a hierarchical system (and not simple, e.g. multiple parents are allowed -- see WebSeitz:HierarchalStructure). Has anyone done anything with it? Write about it here, or if you're feeling shy send me a message.

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* Refactoring is a critically important activity on a wiki of any size. It's when you edit one or several pages intensively, often summarizing, almost always rearranging (within and between pages), creating new links and pages, writing connecting pieces, and frankly deleting. I've been doing it lately on RssSyndication and related pages, but they still need a lot of work.

The fruits of refactoring are that pages remain shorter (so people actually read through), the content on each page remains relevant to that page name. There's more on Wiki:RefactoringWikiPages, or better yet Wiki:WikiRefactoringStories.

"The present letter is a very long one, simply because I had no leisure to make it shorter." --BlaisePascal?
Posted Fri Feb 15 08:49:19 2002

When you do a search on DayPop, in the right column it tells you how many results you got in Headlines, News and Weblogs. Get the News and Weblogs to be equal and you have a DaypopWhack!

It's really interesting looking at which words show up how much more or less in news vs. weblogs. Usually news by far. But "weblog" and "RSS" are still more mentioned in weblogs, and wiki is 2 News to 40 Weblog. Googlewhacking at the moment has more mentions in news then weblogs! Of course those values will all change rapidly, so post 'em when you find 'em.

Have i gotten a DaypopWhack? Closing in...

werewolf 6N/5W 6/5=1.2

furry 61N 51W 61/51=1.196

teeth 372N 315W 372/315=1.181

cascading 33N 38W 38/33=1.152

werewolf furry teeth cascading

...sounds like the middle line of a haiku.

Later Yes! "gnarly" gets 11 11 !

How sad, my life is enriched by playing games with a search engine

This is actually a mutation of "Google whacking," where the objective is to get only one search result using the fewest number of English words.

Yes. That was on purpose.
Posted Thu Feb 14 16:05:58 2002

Dave Winer's not happy about everybody dissing tables, and he links to a great bunch of good pro and con on why CascadingStyleSheets are a good replacement, and links for learning (if you didn't have enough).
Posted Wed Feb 13 20:33:48 2002

ScriptingNews gets the info from Victor Ruiz about a March 2 Webloggers meeting in Madrid.
Posted Wed Feb 13 13:35:56 2002

Version Tracker says that SlashDock version 2.0 is out -- and not a Dock. But when it's running, you still get a menu of your favorite news feeds from the application icon in the Dock. And now you can edit the active RssFeeds through a GUI (could be faster). Just another of the cool RssReaders that seem to be in heavy development these days...
Posted Tue Feb 12 23:26:07 2002

Radio (and other UserLand products) have a custom means for putting an RSS box anywhere in a site:

http://docserver.userland.com/xml/rss/viewRssBox

As long as the web browser looking at your site handles javascript there's the JavaScriptRssViewer:

http://publish.curry.com/rss/

Or you could learn how to code the thing yourself in Perl (less than 100 lines):

http://www.webreference.com/perl/tutorial/8/

Of course in OpenWiki it's been reduced to:

<Syndicate("http://url.goes.here/feed.xml")>

(if this were an OpenWiki, that would have been rendered as a list of headlines. And another page could then aggregate this one with "<Aggregate("RssAnywhere?")>" and get the descriptions as well, although they're in raw HTML!)

Now that weblogs are truly hitting the big time (i mean, even John Dvorak has written about them!), i expect 2002 to be the year that RssSyndication truly booms.
Posted Tue Feb 12 21:43:05 2002

AndreasBolka points me to the new plug in for WebLogs running SlashCode:

SlashWiki -- http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/onlamp/2002/01/17/slash_plugin.html?page=1
Posted Tue Feb 12 20:55:42 2002

There's a ConceptDraw conference coming in the Ukraine this March. I'll be elsewhere, but ConceptDraw? is an interesting tool that does mindmapping and more. Seems likely that Tinderbox might have something like mindmapping. Inspiration is an old Mac product that was good for it.

see CmWiki:MindMapping

(by way of MacinTouch)
Posted Tue Feb 12 20:26:10 2002

Well i blogged a few days ago on my radio weblog that i was probably done with it, but i keep posting interesting UserLand-related developments, and i've unearthed an oldie-but-goody that i'll blog there soon...

In the meantime, as you can tell, it's stimulated my interest in RssFeeds.
Posted Tue Feb 12 19:48:40 2002

Bill Seitz e-mailed to make it clear that he's been copying and pasting weblog entries into special pages in his ZWiki to get the UnifiedRecentChanges effect on his WebSeitz:FrontPage. Hey, it's still an achievement, and we're all eager to see what you come up with next. His WebSeitz:ThinkingSpace is up to something, and Bill's weblog alerted me to Rael pondering the lack of wiki weblog overlap.

The main VanilLa site still tells us to hold our breath. My face is turning blue, but i'm trying, M. Langreiter!

Meanwhile, OpenWiki is looking pretty nifty, i put AbbeNormal on the OpenWiki:WikiSites page, but on OpenWiki:WikiSites/Aggregation it's pretty ugly, all that raw HTML. I guess OpenWiki is set up to handle the description fields of RssFeeds differently?

Am i all caught up yet? Someone tell me if there's major wiki + weblog news i'm missing out on -- on the horizon is tracking down TWiki's weblog capabilities and more on RadioUserland...
Posted Mon Feb 11 18:54:14 2002

Keith Devens pointed me to Zen Stories to Tell Your Neighbors. Good reading.

Uh, I did?

My bad i guess, and i can't figure out who did. Following too many links lately...

lol. By the way, I removed the public wiki from my site (replacing it with a private one for myself), so I apologize for breaking your link down below.

Fixed. And oh yeah, i got the Zen stories from diveintomark.
Posted Mon Feb 11 14:57:18 2002

Pete Kaminski wants to access his music with the multidimensional flexibility of FacetMap?, ZigZag and TouchGraph.

TWikiCodev:DistributedTWiki describes software mirroring wiki pages (it's an extension of TWiki). I wonder if they're using XmlRpc or something else.

The page on distributed TWiki is just brainstorming a new feature - not implemented in TWiki, though perhaps TWikiMain:MichaelSparks has implemented it on his intranet TWiki and could provide more info. Comment on that page to find out more - there was a recent comment from someone else about doing a version of this, see TWikiCodev:LaptopWiki . --RichardDonkin

In TWikiMain:TWikiStoryOfInktomi, it sounds like Michael's distributed TWiki code is likely to be brought into the main TWiki codeset fairly soon. I've edited the text so i'm not overclaiming anymore. --JohnAbbe (and thanks for reminding me to track down that reference)

My Wiki Weblog PIM page got a minor reorganization, and a sprinkling of new links has shown up: http://www.ourpla.net/john/wikiweblogpim.html

Lotus Notes 6 beta for MacOsx is good enough for MacinTouch reader Hong Kie Thio, who is thus freed from Classic.

Dave Winer points to Blog App, a regular MacOsx application for posting messages to BlogGer?, MovableType?, or ManiLa (but not RadioUserland?) weblogs.
Posted Mon Feb 11 02:19:22 2002

Victor Lombardi's Noise Between Stations points me to the silly window moving page, but also to Chris Casciano redesigning his CSS every day in February, giving a completely different look even as the content remains unchanged.

Victor got the link from Glish). I found Noise Between Stations by way of WebSeitz:FrontPage.

Now i understand why i don't always tell you where i got every link from. Anyway, thanks to Chris, providing motivation to us all to muck with CascadingStyleSheets some more.
Posted Mon Feb 11 00:42:42 2002

Tobi Schäfer works on documenting Helma Object Publisher -- another promising-looking development system -- which already has its own wiki (that link is Tobi's page on it), Gong.

Who'd a thunk that the next "killer app" would in part be a development tool?

Radio is also going down this path with its do-it-yourself campaign gently introducing people to how easy it can be to develop their own web services. I might even learn a smidgin of UserTalk.

ad Helma: actually, this cool software is developed by Hannes Wallnöfer, who also made the wiki-like Gong application as experiment. Probably more interesting at the moment is Antville, a weblog-hosting app completely deployed with Helma because it has some wiki-like structure called "topics", too. --TobiSchaefer

Thanks for correcting me, and the links. --JohnAbbe
Posted Sun Feb 10 23:38:52 2002

Michael Moore is unhappy at Bush about Enron, and has the links to explain why.
Posted Sat Feb 9 21:34:56 2002

"One of the most important things Tinderbox can contribute to a weblog is memory: a way of conserving facts and ideas do they can be used again. Weblog archives aren't very good at this."

Mark Bernstein has the scoop on Tinderbox (formerly Ceres) -- and he should, sounds like he codes on it. Christian Langreiter, author of VanilLa, says "Tinderbox will probably be the hottest/most inspiring thing in Personal Publishing in the next few months."

What is it? I know nothing else but what's on their site; it sounds very interesting, it manages a weblog and apparently a significant part of it's functionality is as a regular compiled-app. And this is for Macintosh. But the price tag! $100 argh. How about a review copy?

But you know my one big question...how wiki is it?

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There's a list for pikie sites: Pikie:PikieSites
Posted Sat Feb 9 20:37:13 2002

Bill Seitz' new thing (Go there! I'll still be here when you come back) is his UnifiedRecentChanges for his wiki (ZoPe-based) and weblog (UserLand). That's changes in the weblog and the wiki, listed together in reverse-time order. Is there a standard Zope RSS tool Bill, or did you have to write your own?

His catch-all page for what he's after seems to be WebSeitz:ThinkingSpace

Now how about WikiWords? in the weblog, some easy wiki markup for permalinks, search across both... ? Do i sound too impatient?

Mark Bernstein wrote about Bill's efforts a week ago. And he had something nice to say about the Pats.

This is the first of what i expect to be more big movement for WikiWeblogs this year.
Posted Sat Feb 9 18:25:42 2002

"Sri Lankan curries for dinner, apple crisp with french vanilla ice cream for dessert. Mmmm... Bit of a mixed cuisine, but that's okay." An Ongoing, Erratic Diary [Feb 7]

Met Mary Ann at WorldCon? a few years ago.
Posted Fri Feb 8 00:42:02 2002

I'm looking for the perfect RSS reader, and thought i'd get your input. Thus, a new AbbeNormalSurvey is here, asking would you rather have a web-based or a regular application for reading RSS feeds? Your comments are also very much welcome.

I quite like FeedReader? (see http://www.feedreader.com/) on Windows - it's freeware and provides a nice view of headlines. It also alerts you from the system tray with a pop-up balloon whenever it sees a new headline - ideal for RecentChangesJunkies... See TWikiCodev:FeedReader for some more info. Having an RSS client on your desktop is definitely useful - it's the difference between InstantMessaging? and web-based email.

I also tried Headline Viewer but it seemed very heavyweight and I couldn't see how to add arbitrary RSS feeds. --RichardDonkin
Posted Tue Feb 5 10:08:06 2002

Okay, here's the one web silliness for February: Google Instant Messaging. I sent one to Jonathan Delacour Unplugged, so i imagine it was him who sent one back, although i'm not sure how he would have known it was me (if whoever sent it is reading, please put a comment here so i'll know).

How does it work? Most weblogging software lets you see a list of web pages from which someone has clicked through to your page (with PikiePikie it's on the ExternalReferals page, look at the Feb 2 8:45PM to see the message to me). So if you do a Google search and someone's weblog shows up and you click on it, they get an entry in their referals page. The challenge is to choose search terms that are both the message you want to send and will show the weblog you're trying to send it to.
Posted Tue Feb 5 01:23:56 2002

I've been updating broken links on some sites i maintain (e.g. Center for Group Learning -- don't look yet, i haven't uploaded), why do people move things around so much!?

When you want to put up a page that you intend to be around for a while, buy a domain name. And if for whatever reason you have to move a page, leave a link from the old page. I know, i can find the new location with GooGle. It's just one more step, that much more of a pain in the butt.

Okay, just needed to spout on that. Back to your regularly scheduled weblog...
Posted Mon Feb 4 18:13:23 2002

About a week ago i noted the arrival of Plucky (a new Mac-only RSS reader) and now i've had a chance to play with it. The biggest positive is that it's fast -- because it's a normal application, not one you access through your web browser. The biggest negative is that it only shows headlines, not the items' content (often trimmed in RSS feeds, but many items are short enough that it doesn't matter); so you end up having to use your web browser after all. That makes it little better than the OS X Dock-based readers i've noted before (see RssReaders). I wrote the authors and suggested that they show the text of each item, and it sounds likely to be an option in a future release. I wonder why Usenet readers haven't been adapted for RSS, it's a very similar format in some ways.

Other negatives:

• not the most obvious interface for adding new feeds
• no integration with posting to your own weblog (which RadioUserLand? offers -- a button next to each article as you read that automatically creates a new post to your own weblog with the article already pasted in).
• not open source (even though it uses open source code! i'm writing to ask about this)

Other positives:
• If you know regular expressions, you can use it to 'scrape' some sites that don't actually produce RSS feeds!
• Easiy interface to check for feed updates manually, or automatically as often as you want.
• It's still beta, so more features are coming and as noted the authors are responsive to good ideas.

Posted Sat Feb 2 16:09:45 2002

The US has established open-ended military presences in Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan, and is now understood to be negotiating with Kazakhstan.... Reacting to reports that the US was about to deploy in Kazakhstan, the chief of the general staff of the Chinese People's Liberation Army, General Fu Quanyou, warned such a move 'poses a direct threat to China's security'.... There is further concern that active support of the US by [these] Muslim countries with nascent Islamic fundamentalist movements serves only to inflame their problems.

(from US in replay of the 'Great Game')

'According to some estimates we cannot track $2.3 trillion in transactions,' Rumsfeld admitted."

(from The War on Waste)

America's finest values are sacrificed to keep bad governments in place, dysfunctional borders intact, and oppressed human beings well-behaved.... Self-examination in the strategic sphere has not been an American strength. Perhaps it is time to make it one....

(from Stability, America's Enemy by Ralph Peters, a retired US Army lieutenant-colonel)

Why increase war spending by tens of billions of dollars to further threaten our own security? If you like, ContactYourRepresentatives (i know i will); ask them to cease or at least sharpen the focus of our ongoing military actions, reject huge military spending increases, and/or support the DepartmentOfPeace bill.

Thanks to http://www.cursor.org/ for the links.
Posted Sat Feb 2 03:30:10 2002

I never blogged about how the Confronting Racism conference was. I co-facilitated one of many small groups; ours got kinda bogged down in language (a white guy asking if/when it was ever okay to use the 'n' word), but it went pretty well overall, some bridges begun, people learning without being made to feel wrong, etc. There will be a reunion of sorts in early March to see where things go from here. A more complete report is available.
Posted Fri Feb 1 21:07:19 2002

Looking back at this month's posts -- Blogstickers, search engines, the Friday Five, Internet saints, Googlewhacking -- i hereby declare January to be Silly Web & Weblog Stuff Month. I blame RssReaders for tempting me into reading up on all this nonsense. It is fun, but ultimately distracting.

February will bring a return to more focus on what we're really about here at AbbeNormal -- the growing intersection of wikis &weblogs and the developing standards for them; and positive personal and social practices, in general and around San Francisco and in SriLanka? in particular.

I'll still write about "silly" things once in a while, but try to make them more off the beaten path rather than following the herd. I haven't even written about AsciiArt? yet!
Posted Thu Jan 31 21:09:43 2002

Googlewhacking is another recent web silliness -- find two words that return only one result in Google (discounting word lists).

My first attempt was aerodynamic jellyfish. An abject failure, as among other links there's a whole article about it.

Eventually i found equanimous sherbet, cantaloupe volcanology, portly vivisections, noodling hangnails, and voracious sextuplets (can you see why this is fun?).

My highest score though (one multiplies the number of Google results for each word alone) was with serif (389000) and tarantulas (47600), total 18,516,400,000. (Two pages come up, but one "serif" is only in the markup, a search on the page as rendered does not find it). That's respectable, within an order of magnitude of the highest scores i've seen.

My lowest score was lovelorn (24800) sextuplicate (266), total 6,596,800. I haven't seen many low scores for comparison.
Posted Thu Jan 31 21:03:14 2002

Earlier

also see RecentChanges

Current log
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I hope to offer e-mail subscription, but it is not yet implemented in PikiePikie. If you know of an RSS-to-email service or software, please mailto:johnca@ourpla.net. (Update: there are some, i'm researching it and will post about it soon...)

Syndication:

These feeds use RssSyndication:

Recent weblog posts: (1.0) or 0.92 or Recent weblog posts plus new/changed wiki pages: 0.92 or 1.0 or RSS-to-HTML by the JavaScriptRssViewer

Sometimes i post to this RadioUserland WebLog: RSS-to-HTML by the JavaScriptRssViewer

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